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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 06 2014 14:20 GMT
#1121
On October 06 2014 23:09 Gahlo wrote:
Yeah, how dare they report you for breaking the rules of posting a meme picture!

For as much as you're "bashing retardation," your posts is an awful lot like a dog rolling around in it's own poop.

On October 06 2014 23:12 Celial wrote:
edit: Gahlo, the warning said "image macro".

I don't think you know what that means.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
October 06 2014 14:28 GMT
#1122
On October 06 2014 23:20 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:09 Gahlo wrote:
Yeah, how dare they report you for breaking the rules of posting a meme picture!

For as much as you're "bashing retardation," your posts is an awful lot like a dog rolling around in it's own poop.

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:12 Celial wrote:
edit: Gahlo, the warning said "image macro".

I don't think you know what that means.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/image-macros

Pretty sure I do.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 06 2014 14:34 GMT
#1123
On October 06 2014 23:28 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:20 xes wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:09 Gahlo wrote:
Yeah, how dare they report you for breaking the rules of posting a meme picture!

For as much as you're "bashing retardation," your posts is an awful lot like a dog rolling around in it's own poop.

On October 06 2014 23:12 Celial wrote:
edit: Gahlo, the warning said "image macro".

I don't think you know what that means.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/image-macros

Pretty sure I do.

Wasn't talking to you buddy, but thanks for the knowyourmeme link cancer
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Chemiczny84
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland458 Posts
October 06 2014 14:38 GMT
#1124
On October 06 2014 23:06 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:02 Celial wrote:
On October 06 2014 22:59 xes wrote:
On October 06 2014 22:49 Celial wrote:
On October 06 2014 06:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
Coin is entirely subpar to Spellthief's in lane. I'd go as far as saying that Frost Queen is better than Talisman on pretty much any support, save perhaps a play making Thresh or Annie.

Talisman on Janna is just silly. Just get Captain's.


This amazing and deep strategic insight is brought to you by one of the "panelists" of lolesports.com power ranking column. Not leaving anything open to interpretation, coin is simply trash. Frost Queens Claim is the very best item in the game and should be bought on every single support. That includes Tresh, Braum, Alistar, Leona, Taric and Volibear. Also, in case of kill lanes on Xin Zhao, Jarvan and Pantheon. And support Rengar. There is not even a need to discuss it for five pages and do some math and discuss different use cases. Get with the program, guys!

That statement is about as correct (and valuable) as any power ranking ever posted on lolesports.com. Thank you for your insight. For some humor, here is the worlds power rank. Not sure if Neo had any hand in it though, they didn't put the names in this time and Neo didn't participate in the one before that.

Sorry, but I can't take anyone serious who is willing to vouch with his name for THAT kind of content.

Also, fuck you to whoever reported my "Whooosh" post. I was keeping on with the proud tradition of bashing retardation wherever it pops up and this is my thanks...


You're retarded if you think anything lolesports pumps out for power ranking teams or players is genuine seeding belief rather than promotional media for Riot's LCS


Thats my point. You have all these famous and supposed-to-be-knowledgable guys putting their names on a very very flawed product and vouching for its quality by that.


Isn't that what promotional media is?

Also your amazing insight is brought by confirmed Gold V struggler http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/451859-patch-49-rip-khazix-general-discussion?page=50#1000 while last I checked Neo is Diamond V struggler

Also, recommending Spellthief's over Coin is a better statement to make than anything about Banner of Command any day http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/451859-patch-49-rip-khazix-general-discussion?page=17#335

RIP Khazix hehehe
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 06 2014 14:48 GMT
#1125
OK well let's not discredit anyone just because he said one thing about Banner of Command.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
October 06 2014 14:54 GMT
#1126
I also really like banner of command, but it isn't good by any means. If you want to do one of those support-into-AP-carry things with like Annie or Zyra then maybe? The minion aura is actually super weak for pets though.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-06 14:55:33
October 06 2014 14:55 GMT
#1127
On October 06 2014 23:48 Sufficiency wrote:
OK well let's not discredit anyone just because he said one thing about Banner of Command.

OK well let's not discredit anyone just because he said one thing on LoLesports Power Ranks
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-06 15:02:48
October 06 2014 15:02 GMT
#1128
Sure, but I think we need to put Neo's article to higher standard because it is published on Riot's website.

It's like the difference between me telling you that relative risk is garbage in an informal setting and me publishing a paper on RSSB saying it is garbage.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
October 06 2014 15:08 GMT
#1129
Re. The azir posts on the last page. I agree he could use some tweaks/qol changes, but even now he has potential. I did 2 things that dramatically increased my success with him. 10 flat 10 scaling cdr from runes and masteries and morello or athenes rush into zhonyas sorc boots and void staff. Attack speed reds also help with the early game clunkiness. This build does ridiculous damage.

Just from my own experience it took 30 or 40 games before i could carry with azir. He is not easy to pick up and be good with.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 06 2014 15:16 GMT
#1130
Azir has something like 8 bugs being fixed on PBE atm. He's not going to really be a relevant thing till the next patch.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 06 2014 15:24 GMT
#1131
Azir ult range is soooo small. I keep expecting the epic pushout of soldiers, instead they just sort of walk out like 500 range..... Missed so many times.

Also sort of wish his own autos got similar modification to his soldiers, sort of annoying when you plant 2 soldiers in front, and some guy walks behind you, and your soldier's not in range any more to attack, so Azir starts attacking himself, except you're doing no damage, so then you send out your soldier with Q, except that takes like half a second of cast time/animation time before your soldiers can start attacking, and then your dead, because you have no range and are squishy as shit.
liftlift > tsm
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-06 16:05:21
October 06 2014 15:27 GMT
#1132
Yeah i was thinking about it a bit more after i posted that and wanted to add, in his current state being good with him is not worth the time investment. When the patch hits i will be ready though.

The main problem, besides the bugs, that i have with azir is his damage is very high but unreliable. I find it really hard to get a kill on my own. Its easy to poke someone out of lane but they have to fuck up badly to die 1v1. I think he will be strong in organized play with team comps designed around his weaknesses, but in solo que it can be hit or miss. That weakness in lane and skirmishes is not the case in team fights tho, he absolutely will destroy the other team if you have peel and cc.

Azir and lucian were designed by the same guy and i kind of feel the same about them when they both first came out. They play differently then any other champ that fills the same role. they were both riddled with bugs when they first came out but when everything clicks and you get a glimpse of what they can do, it makes me want to keep playing them.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-06 16:57:30
October 06 2014 16:47 GMT
#1133
On October 06 2014 22:49 Celial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 06:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
Coin is entirely subpar to Spellthief's in lane. I'd go as far as saying that Frost Queen is better than Talisman on pretty much any support, save perhaps a play making Thresh or Annie.

Talisman on Janna is just silly. Just get Captain's.


This amazing and deep strategic insight is brought to you by one of the "panelists" of lolesports.com power ranking column. Not leaving anything open to interpretation, coin is simply trash. Frost Queens Claim is the very best item in the game and should be bought on every single support. That includes Tresh, Braum, Alistar, Leona, Taric and Volibear. Also, in case of kill lanes on Xin Zhao, Jarvan and Pantheon. And support Rengar. There is not even a need to discuss it for five pages and do some math and discuss different use cases. Get with the program, guys!

That statement is about as correct (and valuable) as any power ranking ever posted on lolesports.com. Thank you for your insight. For some humor, here is the worlds power rank. Not sure if Neo had any hand in it though, they didn't put the names in this time and Neo didn't participate in the one before that.

Sorry, but I can't take anyone serious who is willing to vouch with his name for THAT kind of content.

Also, fuck you to whoever reported my "Whooosh" post. I was keeping on with the proud tradition of bashing retardation wherever it pops up and this is my thanks...


You know those posts you see on the official Riot forums with a poster attacking random Riot members who generally don't have control over every little decision or change? Or attacking someone who works in one department for something another department did? So you think to yourself, "What the fuck is this? Who posts garbage like this and directly insults a random person they don't know with such bad information?". Then you also think" I hope TL(or replace with your forum of choice) never turns into that." Yea, you just made one of those posts. I hope you get banned for it.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 06 2014 17:01 GMT
#1134
So what are people getting as their offensive item on gnar? I've been trying gnar out and he's hella fun and his teamfighting is awesome, currently I go brutalizer into tank with upgrading into youmuus at some point but I've heard about triforce or even blade for him. Any thoughts?
Glorious SEA doto
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
October 06 2014 17:02 GMT
#1135
On October 07 2014 02:01 Fusilero wrote:
So what are people getting as their offensive item on gnar? I've been trying gnar out and he's hella fun and his teamfighting is awesome, currently I go brutalizer into tank with upgrading into youmuus at some point but I've heard about triforce or even blade for him. Any thoughts?

Exactly. Triforce or BoTRK into full tank works pretty well.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 06 2014 17:24 GMT
#1136
Yeah my blog links got blacklisted by reddit

Sad days.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
October 06 2014 17:38 GMT
#1137
lol :D
Useless wet fish.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 06 2014 17:41 GMT
#1138
Oh well.

To be honest originally I was hoping I could monetize a bit via readership, but it was a bit too greedy from my part anyway I guess.

I'll do it a bit different ly from now on and just focus on interesting stuff instead.

It's no big loss.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 06 2014 17:43 GMT
#1139
Anybody know where to look up at the players rune/masteries during the Worlds games?

I saw Cool with biscuits on Jayce. Kind of curious what he was running.
Forever Young
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 06 2014 17:48 GMT
#1140
On October 07 2014 02:43 sung_moon wrote:
Anybody know where to look up at the players rune/masteries during the Worlds games?

I saw Cool with biscuits on Jayce. Kind of curious what he was running.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/TRLH3/1000470111?gameHash=29a21b4ede8f087c&tab=builds&participant=3
The jayce game. Lolesports' twitter posts links to the match history of worlds matches which has the set ups
Glorious SEA doto
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