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[Patch 4.17] Soraka/Viktor General Discussion - Page 5

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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
September 25 2014 07:44 GMT
#81
On September 25 2014 16:32 Ryuu314 wrote:
You can still W yourself as Soraka right?

Nope. You can only W allies. You heal yourself with Q (if it hits enemy champion).
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 07:59:15
September 25 2014 07:57 GMT
#82
On September 25 2014 16:20 wei2coolman wrote:
These Garen buffs going to be awesome. He's pretty strong right now imo, the passive change will just make him more hilarious in late game. MARK MY WORDS. THE RISE OF GAREN IS COMING.

What about the power of poppy?
On another note has anyone tried laning soraka yet?
Glorious SEA doto
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 25 2014 07:59 GMT
#83
consider them marked
Carrilord has arrived.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
September 25 2014 08:08 GMT
#84
I like it. Makes Ahri even stronger and Trist and Nida were my 2 bans along with Yasuo.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 25 2014 08:21 GMT
#85
I find it weird that they kind of Renektoned Garen. Your passive doesn't scale until level 11, when it goes up by .4. Then suddenly at level 16, it goes up by another 1.2. Like, what?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
September 25 2014 08:39 GMT
#86
Finally the nidalee nerfs.... god bless. Seems like they don't know yet what they want to do with tristana but realized she needed some nerfs. Next should be lucian, fuck that guy and his dominating laning phase, give him higher mana costs.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 25 2014 08:40 GMT
#87
On September 25 2014 11:49 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 11:44 krndandaman wrote:
On September 25 2014 11:40 Slusher wrote:
I haven't heard anything of that nature, and I can confirm it sucks dick in the midwest as well


whenever I look in the 'new' section on r/leagueoflegends I see only east coasters complaining about lag.
yesterday and today I asked everyone who d/c'd which coast they play on and all the d/c'd players were east coast players and the non d/c's were westcoast players. dunno about midwest though.

so I haven't heard anything official from riot but I'm pretty sure its mostly if not only non-west coasters that are affected.

Riot said that the were going to move NA servers to a centralized location, but they wanted to finish Amsterdam first. This was said about 7 months ago and Amsterdam was done shortly after All Stars. Since then they have said 0 about it, despite being asked. Granted, I've never set up a data center so I don't know the logistics and reasonable time table + whatever time they need to deal with unexpected issues, but with 0 results and not even a whisper about the status of it, I'm not holding my breath.

It took us way more than 7 months from their planning to Amsterdam finally being up, although admittedly they had delays in there too, so don't expect it to be too quick.

On September 25 2014 11:21 schmutttt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 08:44 iCanada wrote:
Why do they need to fix Garen again? He is actually pretty strong late game and beats some of the rather abusive top labs matchups. He stomps maokai for example, and he gives ryze a much bigger run for his money than most melee tanks.


How the hell does he give Ryze any trouble?

Like not trying to come off as rude but he literally has to run at Ryze, so Ryze just QWs him and walks away. Basically every ranged champion beats Garen.

Thing is at level 1 Rune Prison doesn't last long enough to prevent Garen from getting to you if he times his Q right, even if you cast then immediatly run away. Of course you'll outscale him but if he wants to get on top of you he can.
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 08:54:22
September 25 2014 08:53 GMT
#88
TBH nidalee actually feel stronger than she did before. AD quints, mixed pen reds, and sheen -> gauntlet is pretty damn good vs AD/tank tops while against AP tops, chalice -> gauntlet or triforce. I feel like CDR gained quite a bit of importance since AP/CDR is more prevalent than AD/CDR.

Yes she's weaker 1-4 but after her first base, she can burst just as hard as she used to with a slightly modified build. Less poke but as long as you hit spears, doesn't matter.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
September 25 2014 09:46 GMT
#89
Viktor feels.... strong actually ^^ at the early levels Q feels really weak, but damn does it feel strong later on... I've got to get some games in to see how it really works out, but I feel one of his main weaknesses; sustained late damage might have been helped by this change, plus the mana on the HexCore is quality of life change; not necesary but it does make him more pleasant. The W augment is negligible, the Q augment is pretty nice. I'm not quite sure when the best time would be to upgrade it; it might actually be best to just go E upgrade asap and then save the rest for last, but I havent done the math on how much the AP bonus is actually worth.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
September 25 2014 10:34 GMT
#90
Current Patch:

Please delete Nidalee. She isn't fun for anyone in the game (I assume Nidalee players hate themselves and don't have fun playing her). Shifting her stuff around doesn't change the fact that her kit promotes the worst sort of interactions.

I feel bad for the Talon change. Not because I don't think it needed to happen (I'm still 50/50), but because it's another loss of Silence. Silence and Blind are criminally underused in this game, and healthy usages of them could add so much flavour.

Can they actually look at modifying Wind Wall yet? They've pretty much already nerfed everything else Yasuo has.

PBE:

I love the look of that LB skin, might have to grab that one.

Ohmwrecker buff! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Overall, I feel really bad for the state of League at the moment. I feel like the off season needs to have some big changes, particularly things like CC buffering and power and the ever present itemisation problems.

Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
September 25 2014 11:11 GMT
#91
New Soraka is gawd damn awesome, that base damage on Q and E is simply through the roof.

Just come from a game where I was Soraka and our toplaner was Viktor with a funky Athene/FH/Lichbane build, we ended up doing a 2v5 Viktor penta with a full team Gravity Field->Chaos Storm->Equinox chain, will probably never happen again but damn was it some glorious synergy of death and destruction.

Love these reworks. Tho, I think they might tone down Raka's base damages; they are pretty bonkers.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 25 2014 11:30 GMT
#92
Looking at the Nautilus parity change, it's probably a nerf more than anything else, as it means he can't escape from Cataclysm or a Crystallise.
Which makes me think (and ask, since I don't have Azir and am about to go back to work anyway), how do spells like Death Sentence, Dredge Line and Bandage Toss interact with Azir's wall? I assume even if it's not terrain and you can go through it with the projectile, you're going to be prevented from dragging yourself to the enemy team that way.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 11:52:45
September 25 2014 11:38 GMT
#93
New soraka is going to be dominant middle. Equinox is insane.

On September 25 2014 20:30 Alaric wrote:
Looking at the Nautilus parity change, it's probably a nerf more than anything else, as it means he can't escape from Cataclysm or a Crystallise.
Which makes me think (and ask, since I don't have Azir and am about to go back to work anyway), how do spells like Death Sentence, Dredge Line and Bandage Toss interact with Azir's wall? I assume even if it's not terrain and you can go through it with the projectile, you're going to be prevented from dragging yourself to the enemy team that way.

I know from ascension that darius pull just bounces them off the wall. probably the same.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
September 25 2014 12:06 GMT
#94
pretty sure shes broken i jsut had support soraka completely dominate the game, i start to perma ban her instead of nidalee now
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 25 2014 12:08 GMT
#95
On September 25 2014 21:06 kongoline wrote:
pretty sure shes broken i jsut had support soraka completely dominate the game, i start to perma ban her instead of nidalee now


Is Cass the only one that is shit tier after a rework . So salty!
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 25 2014 12:18 GMT
#96
Skarner wasn't great after rework.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 25 2014 12:24 GMT
#97
On September 25 2014 21:18 Ketara wrote:
Skarner wasn't great after rework.


Didn't they have to re-nerf him after the rework to make sure he wasn't played or did they buff him then nerf him.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 25 2014 12:45 GMT
#98
Viktor's not gonna be as good early on, maybe he'll catch up in the midgame, but a fuckton hinges on E augment and on PBE it sucked, but the video of the rework page seems to show it's been changed and is better.
Gotta try it because with how E works (and the fuckton of glitches or just impractical stuff on his ult) it's much more complex than just numbers.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 25 2014 12:56 GMT
#99
On September 25 2014 21:45 Alaric wrote:
Viktor's not gonna be as good early on, maybe he'll catch up in the midgame, but a fuckton hinges on E augment and on PBE it sucked, but the video of the rework page seems to show it's been changed and is better.
Gotta try it because with how E works (and the fuckton of glitches or just impractical stuff on his ult) it's much more complex than just numbers.


Yeah, they definitely changed his E since I tried it on pbe. Not sure if it can 1shot a wave or not.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 13:08:14
September 25 2014 13:04 GMT
#100
On September 25 2014 21:06 kongoline wrote:
pretty sure shes broken i jsut had support soraka completely dominate the game, i start to perma ban her instead of nidalee now

Just won another 4v5 with my Soraka support. Shit is good, goddamn, heal from Q, W heal cd is low as hell + AoE silence - bonkers.

Edit : Also are there any Sejuani players/lovers out there? Is she in need of rework or just some buffs would make her competetive pick?

Edit 2 : Anyone gambling with Mystery skins? They're available for 490 RP, I've got Noxus Poppy out of it, lol. Isn't it like limited skin or something?
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