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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 25 2014 02:37 GMT
#41
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 25 2014 02:40 GMT
#42
o so chat restricted people at the end wont get rewards ahahahahahahahahah
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 25 2014 02:40 GMT
#43
I haven't heard anything of that nature, and I can confirm it sucks dick in the midwest as well
Carrilord has arrived.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 25 2014 02:44 GMT
#44
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 25 2014 02:48 GMT
#45
As a west coaster, can confirm NA has terrible connectivity issues for me too. It has nothing to do with location, the server just needs to be upgraded.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 25 2014 02:49 GMT
#46
On September 25 2014 11:44 krndandaman wrote:
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On September 25 2014 11:40 Slusher wrote:
I haven't heard anything of that nature, and I can confirm it sucks dick in the midwest as well


whenever I look in the 'new' section on r/leagueoflegends I see only east coasters complaining about lag.
yesterday and today I asked everyone who d/c'd which coast they play on and all the d/c'd players were east coast players and the non d/c's were westcoast players. dunno about midwest though.

so I haven't heard anything official from riot but I'm pretty sure its mostly if not only non-west coasters that are affected.

Riot said that the were going to move NA servers to a centralized location, but they wanted to finish Amsterdam first. This was said about 7 months ago and Amsterdam was done shortly after All Stars. Since then they have said 0 about it, despite being asked. Granted, I've never set up a data center so I don't know the logistics and reasonable time table + whatever time they need to deal with unexpected issues, but with 0 results and not even a whisper about the status of it, I'm not holding my breath.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 25 2014 02:52 GMT
#47
I'm on the west coast and I dced for a few minutes yesterday when everybody else was.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 25 2014 02:59 GMT
#48
On September 25 2014 11:21 schmutttt wrote:
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On September 25 2014 08:44 iCanada wrote:
Why do they need to fix Garen again? He is actually pretty strong late game and beats some of the rather abusive top labs matchups. He stomps maokai for example, and he gives ryze a much bigger run for his money than most melee tanks.


How the hell does he give Ryze any trouble?

Like not trying to come off as rude but he literally has to run at Ryze, so Ryze just QWs him and walks away. Basically every ranged champion beats Garen.


He doesn't beat Ryze, but he doesn't just roll over, die, and get zoned like most melee tanks.

If garen Ws when Ryze goes to combo then presses Q after Ryze uses W Garen totally wins the trade, while having hp regen and no mana costs.

Garen can't zone Ryze or stop him from farming, so technically he will never win the matchup, but in comparison to the fits ryze gives like Singed, Darius, Renekton, Poppy, Jax, Shyv, nasus etc it's a really easy matchup.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 25 2014 03:02 GMT
#49
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 25 2014 03:04 GMT
#50
On September 25 2014 11:59 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 11:21 schmutttt wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:44 iCanada wrote:
Why do they need to fix Garen again? He is actually pretty strong late game and beats some of the rather abusive top labs matchups. He stomps maokai for example, and he gives ryze a much bigger run for his money than most melee tanks.


How the hell does he give Ryze any trouble?

Like not trying to come off as rude but he literally has to run at Ryze, so Ryze just QWs him and walks away. Basically every ranged champion beats Garen.


He doesn't beat Ryze, but he doesn't just roll over, die, and get zoned like most melee tanks.

If garen Ws when Ryze goes to combo then presses Q after Ryze uses W Garen totally wins the trade, while having hp regen and no mana costs.

Garen can't zone Ryze or stop him from farming, so technically he will never win the matchup, but in comparison to the fits ryze gives like Singed, Darius, Renekton, Poppy, Jax, Shyv, nasus etc it's a really easy matchup.

Given that Ryze scales ridiculously harder than Garen, forcing a farm lane is a win for Ryze. He can keep Garen at a reasonable level while getting largely a free pass to lategame.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 25 2014 03:07 GMT
#51
On September 25 2014 12:04 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 11:59 iCanada wrote:
On September 25 2014 11:21 schmutttt wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:44 iCanada wrote:
Why do they need to fix Garen again? He is actually pretty strong late game and beats some of the rather abusive top labs matchups. He stomps maokai for example, and he gives ryze a much bigger run for his money than most melee tanks.


How the hell does he give Ryze any trouble?

Like not trying to come off as rude but he literally has to run at Ryze, so Ryze just QWs him and walks away. Basically every ranged champion beats Garen.


He doesn't beat Ryze, but he doesn't just roll over, die, and get zoned like most melee tanks.

If garen Ws when Ryze goes to combo then presses Q after Ryze uses W Garen totally wins the trade, while having hp regen and no mana costs.

Garen can't zone Ryze or stop him from farming, so technically he will never win the matchup, but in comparison to the fits ryze gives like Singed, Darius, Renekton, Poppy, Jax, Shyv, nasus etc it's a really easy matchup.

Given that Ryze scales ridiculously harder than Garen, forcing a farm lane is a win for Ryze. He can keep Garen at a reasonable level while getting largely a free pass to lategame.


Isn't that what I said?

My point was just that Garen didn't roll over and die. I never said he won, even relatively. I just said he didn't lose nearly as hard as similar champs.

Man you guys are testy lately.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 25 2014 03:08 GMT
#52
On September 25 2014 12:02 krndandaman wrote:
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On September 25 2014 11:52 GolemMadness wrote:
I'm on the west coast and I dced for a few minutes yesterday when everybody else was.


ok then riot has bigger issues than i thought


Was just the one time over the past few days though. I see people saying they've had problems in several games, which I don't know is actually true or just exaggerating/making excuses for losses.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 03:16:00
September 25 2014 03:10 GMT
#53
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 03:19:31
September 25 2014 03:19 GMT
#54
the entire point of loss prevented is that it does not, hence why it can happen in normals.
Carrilord has arrived.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 25 2014 03:21 GMT
#55
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 25 2014 03:24 GMT
#56
I always assumed it was because making playing a win/win during lag fests was an attempt at reducing criticism but idk what they are thinking most of the time so not sure lol
Carrilord has arrived.
asymptotech
Profile Joined May 2013
United States295 Posts
September 25 2014 03:31 GMT
#57
On September 25 2014 12:21 krndandaman wrote:
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On September 25 2014 12:19 Slusher wrote:
the entire point of loss prevented is that it does not, hence why it can happen in normals.


then why do you get LP still when you win? you get the MMR gain while the losing team doesn't lose MMR?


You only gain 50% of a normal win. It's their current version of a happy medium in a no-win situation where they're trying to make it so neither the loser (no loss) or the winner (some gain) actually gets punished by things outside in-game control.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
September 25 2014 03:32 GMT
#58
I live in the Midwest and it's been getting progressively worse for me for months. I can't play the game with my ISP's DNS (been about 5-6 patches), and I can't get Google's DNS to work now either (which was how their support fixed the issue). I've been playing with 120-140 ping (up to 200) about two weeks before prior to being completely unable to play, with really bad server lag where it'd skip like 60-90 frames every 4 seconds or so.

I used to get 70-90 ping without much issue, and it was really stable. As is, I can't even connect to the game anymore.
Tosstriss
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada334 Posts
September 25 2014 03:33 GMT
#59
When I saw a Viktor Patch I got hype... then I saw what they actually changed. I'm a sad panda.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 25 2014 04:05 GMT
#60
On September 25 2014 12:07 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 12:04 Gahlo wrote:
On September 25 2014 11:59 iCanada wrote:
On September 25 2014 11:21 schmutttt wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:44 iCanada wrote:
Why do they need to fix Garen again? He is actually pretty strong late game and beats some of the rather abusive top labs matchups. He stomps maokai for example, and he gives ryze a much bigger run for his money than most melee tanks.


How the hell does he give Ryze any trouble?

Like not trying to come off as rude but he literally has to run at Ryze, so Ryze just QWs him and walks away. Basically every ranged champion beats Garen.


He doesn't beat Ryze, but he doesn't just roll over, die, and get zoned like most melee tanks.

If garen Ws when Ryze goes to combo then presses Q after Ryze uses W Garen totally wins the trade, while having hp regen and no mana costs.

Garen can't zone Ryze or stop him from farming, so technically he will never win the matchup, but in comparison to the fits ryze gives like Singed, Darius, Renekton, Poppy, Jax, Shyv, nasus etc it's a really easy matchup.

Given that Ryze scales ridiculously harder than Garen, forcing a farm lane is a win for Ryze. He can keep Garen at a reasonable level while getting largely a free pass to lategame.


Isn't that what I said?

My point was just that Garen didn't roll over and die. I never said he won, even relatively. I just said he didn't lose nearly as hard as similar champs.

Man you guys are testy lately.

Nah, just misread your post.
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