EPT[Patch 4.17] Soraka/Viktor General Discussion - Page 2
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On September 25 2014 08:52 TheHumanSensation wrote: But keep 99% slows (not roots ofc those are toxic), because movement abilities provide counterplay whereas normal movement doesn't even have mastery or teamwork involved Duh, you can just use your dash to get out of a slow | ||
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ketchup
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On September 25 2014 08:31 Slusher wrote: as a healer archetype the most 'outplay' possible mechanic you can have is to hit a team mate with a damage reduction ability right before a big cd is blown on them, idk maybe it is a mmo healer/buffer player in me but thats what feels good for people who enjoy that role plain heals, meteors that heal yourself and ground roots do not fill this niche (which was intended I get that they don't like healer archetype, but it is a disappointment for me anyway) I think this is where the problem is. Riot never liked Soroka being used just as a heal/mana bot. They never wanted that. After the whole locket issue, they wanted Soroka to be a battlemage-type champion. Their attempts at reworking Soroka were always a bit lacking due to them not being able to find a compromise between her heals, and her power ratio. There was a time where mid-raka was a ridiculously difficult champion to handle because of this. They overpowered her Q in an attempt at making people play her differently. This is why I really disliked when they added armor on her heal. It was just a temporary fix because they killed the rest of her kit due to her dominant mid style. It's really interesting what they've tried so far, but she never felt fun to play with or against for most people. This new rework is attempting to combine both states. I admit it is a bit generic, but it seems like a good compromise right now. Her ult is still the same because that IS Soraka's signature spell. It will probably never go away until Riot admits that the spell itself is very uninteresting and needs to be changed in some form. The problem is they would have to remove that spell entirely while keeping Soroka players feeling like it's still Soroka they are playing. That's really really difficult. It may happen in the future when they have a different idea, but the core identity of Soroka does revolve a lot around that ultimate being what it is. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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GettingIt
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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TheEmulator
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On September 25 2014 09:45 Chrispy wrote: Haha Nidalee nerfs. Suck a big fat one all Nidalee players. May your champion eventually be deleted. I'm pretty happy about this as well  | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
Me as well. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On September 25 2014 08:29 DiracMonopole wrote: This thread should really be called rip talon. At least give him a root on e instead of a slow. Please. When a TL thread is named "RIP ___" that champion turns out to be extremely overpowered in the patch. If you wanted to keep this theme, the thread should be named "RIP Viktor" | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On September 25 2014 10:09 Ketara wrote: Please. When a TL thread is named "RIP ___" that champion turns out to be extremely overpowered in the patch. If you wanted to keep this theme, the thread should be named "RIP Viktor" The change was also very poorly worded. Talon's changes are very clear. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On September 25 2014 10:09 Ketara wrote: Please. When a TL thread is named "RIP ___" that champion turns out to be extremely overpowered in the patch. If you wanted to keep this theme, the thread should be named "RIP Viktor" RIP Kha'Zix is still kind of true, if the meta wasn't shifting towards no-anti-fun-mids allowed (LB, Kass) then the W max poke/clear style of current Kha play would go back to where it was right after the first iteration of W Kha got nerfed (with Muramana changes?) RIP Pantheon was definitely true | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
why has the prince of darkness forsaken us? The Talon change is fucking stupid, they could have just like increased the cast animation for it, and decreased the range a little. Sort of stupid that it's called cut throat, and it doesn't silence... | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On September 25 2014 10:29 krndandaman wrote: is this the first time a non mod made the gd thread? at first I thought it was a funny fake lol Make no mistake: xes is the shadow ruler of the LoL subforum. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On September 25 2014 10:09 Ketara wrote: Please. When a TL thread is named "RIP ___" that champion turns out to be extremely overpowered in the patch. If you wanted to keep this theme, the thread should be named "RIP Viktor" If Viktor does turn out to be OP, which is highly unlikely considering they nerfed almost every part of his kit and his itemization, it won't be anything like he currently is. Frankly i fail to see how a weak champion not known for a kit that has high lategame synergy can be given marginal lategame buffs (wooo an extra 48 AP at 6 items) in exchange for removing the single timing advantage that he had and expected to be OP | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
On September 25 2014 08:44 iCanada wrote: Why do they need to fix Garen again? He is actually pretty strong late game and beats some of the rather abusive top labs matchups. He stomps maokai for example, and he gives ryze a much bigger run for his money than most melee tanks. How the hell does he give Ryze any trouble? Like not trying to come off as rude but he literally has to run at Ryze, so Ryze just QWs him and walks away. Basically every ranged champion beats Garen. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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