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[Patch 4.17] Soraka/Viktor General Discussion - Page 7
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Alaric
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
was it just the color scheme or something? | ||
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DrunkenOne
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[DUF]MethodMan
Germany1716 Posts
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DrunkenOne
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Simberto
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GettingIt
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On September 26 2014 02:37 DrunkenOne wrote: Love that the Garen buffs went through even if they don't fix his laning. I thought for sure those numbers wouldn't make it through PBE. Running some quick numbers at lvl 18 with a build of something like thornmail/randuins/visage/locket/LW/mercs he regens something like 100 hp/sec with 300+ armor and 230+ MR. Can just shrug off all harass and regen 600 hp in 10 secs afterwards If he regens 100 hp/sec how come it takes him 10 seconds to regen 600 hp? | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On September 26 2014 02:37 DrunkenOne wrote: Love that the Garen buffs went through even if they don't fix his laning. I thought for sure those numbers wouldn't make it through PBE. Running some quick numbers at lvl 18 with a build of something like thornmail/randuins/visage/locket/LW/mercs he regens something like 100 hp/sec with 300+ armor and 230+ MR. Can just shrug off all harass and regen 600 hp in 10 secs afterwards only one offensive item are you even a man | ||
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[DUF]MethodMan
Germany1716 Posts
On September 26 2014 02:39 DrunkenOne wrote: it was probably your second dodge? nope. i feel raped D: | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On September 26 2014 02:06 iCanada wrote: Not at all. In a 2v2 with other teams jungle and an even lane Sej beats most jungles. In a 3v3, 4v4 etc sej is strong. Only big exception is fiddles, or getting massively outplayed. But if you fight early with sej1v1 you going to die. If a champion's early game talents are limited to "decent in a 2v2 and larger fights" (definitely not amongst the best though; Lee Sin and Elise are better, I personally wouldn't mind J4 or Rengar over Sejuani either for example), while the disadvantages include possibly the worst first clear (can't think of anyone worse? Naut, Rammus, Amumu all have way better) and awful 1v1 then you can't possibly claim to have "good early game", regardless of how you play. "Survivable" is probably the more accurate term here. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On September 26 2014 02:43 GettingIt wrote: If he regens 100 hp/sec how come it takes him 10 seconds to regen 600 hp? 4 s for passive to proc after poke. On September 26 2014 02:46 Scip wrote: If a champion's early game talents are limited to "decent in a 2v2 and larger fights" (definitely not amongst the best though; Lee Sin and Elise are better, I personally wouldn't mind J4 or Rengar over Sejuani either for example), while the disadvantages include possibly the worst first clear (can't think of anyone worse? Naut, Rammus, Amumu all have way better) and awful 1v1 then you can't possibly claim to have "good early game", regardless of how you play. "Survivable" is probably the more accurate term here. Fair. I think you're underestimating sej' clear and lockdown abilities though. I am biased though, have always liked sej. | ||
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Capped
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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eagle
United States693 Posts
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Bearded Elder29904 Posts
On September 26 2014 03:08 eagle wrote: trick with sejuani is double junlge item wraith and spirtstone and ap runes into ap build Sounds like pseudo-Trick2g style of play. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
You kill Raka first now I think. | ||
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DrunkenOne
United States302 Posts
On September 26 2014 02:43 GettingIt wrote: If he regens 100 hp/sec how come it takes him 10 seconds to regen 600 hp? first 4 secs he doesn't regen edit: slow pony | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On September 26 2014 03:18 Sufficiency wrote: Yes. Let's focus on the Soraka instead of that Tristana. While Soraka gives Tristana peel, aoe silence, and 6000 eHP... While new Raka is alive you'll never kill anything else. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On September 26 2014 03:11 iCanada wrote: I think people just need to make Raka a higher priority target. She just as squishy as ever and has no where near the self healing abilities she had before. Before it didn't matter who you focused first in terms of raw team fighting healing, but now it makes a big difference. You kill Raka first now I think. Currently 4-1 with new Soraka, she's essentially an AP utility carry (that requires basically no items), and should be treated as such by the enemy IMO. In other words she's bonkers. | ||
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