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[Patch 4.17] Soraka/Viktor General Discussion - Page 7

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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 25 2014 17:23 GMT
#121
You just get Kayle or Nidalee on your team and keep your heals just for Soraka, so she can abuse the ratio to top everyone off.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
September 25 2014 17:34 GMT
#122
what exactly changed w/ the texture updates?
was it just the color scheme or something?
DrunkenOne
Profile Joined August 2012
United States302 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 17:39:35
September 25 2014 17:37 GMT
#123
Love that the Garen buffs went through even if they don't fix his laning. I thought for sure those numbers wouldn't make it through PBE. Running some quick numbers at lvl 18 with a build of something like thornmail/randuins/visage/locket/LW/mercs he regens something like 100 hp/sec with 300+ armor and 230+ MR. Can just shrug off all harass and regen 600 hp in 10 secs afterwards
Yarr?
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
September 25 2014 17:39 GMT
#124
-10lp and 30min queue ban for dodging, is this new?
DrunkenOne
Profile Joined August 2012
United States302 Posts
September 25 2014 17:39 GMT
#125
it was probably your second dodge?
Yarr?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11686 Posts
September 25 2014 17:39 GMT
#126
Only if he is not getting punched, though. Which makes is pretty strong in prolongued pokewars, and not that useful in a standard teamfight that is over in 5-10 seconds.
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
September 25 2014 17:43 GMT
#127
On September 26 2014 02:37 DrunkenOne wrote:
Love that the Garen buffs went through even if they don't fix his laning. I thought for sure those numbers wouldn't make it through PBE. Running some quick numbers at lvl 18 with a build of something like thornmail/randuins/visage/locket/LW/mercs he regens something like 100 hp/sec with 300+ armor and 230+ MR. Can just shrug off all harass and regen 600 hp in 10 secs afterwards


If he regens 100 hp/sec how come it takes him 10 seconds to regen 600 hp?
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 25 2014 17:43 GMT
#128
On September 26 2014 02:37 DrunkenOne wrote:
Love that the Garen buffs went through even if they don't fix his laning. I thought for sure those numbers wouldn't make it through PBE. Running some quick numbers at lvl 18 with a build of something like thornmail/randuins/visage/locket/LW/mercs he regens something like 100 hp/sec with 300+ armor and 230+ MR. Can just shrug off all harass and regen 600 hp in 10 secs afterwards

only one offensive item
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[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
September 25 2014 17:45 GMT
#129
On September 26 2014 02:39 DrunkenOne wrote:
it was probably your second dodge?


nope. i feel raped D:
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 25 2014 17:46 GMT
#130
On September 26 2014 02:06 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 01:46 Scip wrote:
On September 25 2014 23:29 iCanada wrote:
No, Sej better than mummy imo.

Thing is that full tank jungles just don't farm as fast as their assassin counterparts, and have weaker early game, more prone to being harassed.

But Sej has a good early game if you play it right, just can't fight anything by yourself. Her first clear is suspect, and she clears much slower after the golem nerfs.

But by level 3 she is fine, and if an opponent overextended at all they dead.

That's very contradictory


Not at all. In a 2v2 with other teams jungle and an even lane Sej beats most jungles. In a 3v3, 4v4 etc sej is strong. Only big exception is fiddles, or getting massively outplayed.

But if you fight early with sej1v1 you going to die.

If a champion's early game talents are limited to "decent in a 2v2 and larger fights" (definitely not amongst the best though; Lee Sin and Elise are better, I personally wouldn't mind J4 or Rengar over Sejuani either for example), while the disadvantages include possibly the worst first clear (can't think of anyone worse? Naut, Rammus, Amumu all have way better) and awful 1v1 then you can't possibly claim to have "good early game", regardless of how you play. "Survivable" is probably the more accurate term here.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 17:56:30
September 25 2014 17:54 GMT
#131
On September 26 2014 02:43 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 02:37 DrunkenOne wrote:
Love that the Garen buffs went through even if they don't fix his laning. I thought for sure those numbers wouldn't make it through PBE. Running some quick numbers at lvl 18 with a build of something like thornmail/randuins/visage/locket/LW/mercs he regens something like 100 hp/sec with 300+ armor and 230+ MR. Can just shrug off all harass and regen 600 hp in 10 secs afterwards


If he regens 100 hp/sec how come it takes him 10 seconds to regen 600 hp?


4 s for passive to proc after poke.

On September 26 2014 02:46 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 02:06 iCanada wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:46 Scip wrote:
On September 25 2014 23:29 iCanada wrote:
No, Sej better than mummy imo.

Thing is that full tank jungles just don't farm as fast as their assassin counterparts, and have weaker early game, more prone to being harassed.

But Sej has a good early game if you play it right, just can't fight anything by yourself. Her first clear is suspect, and she clears much slower after the golem nerfs.

But by level 3 she is fine, and if an opponent overextended at all they dead.

That's very contradictory


Not at all. In a 2v2 with other teams jungle and an even lane Sej beats most jungles. In a 3v3, 4v4 etc sej is strong. Only big exception is fiddles, or getting massively outplayed.

But if you fight early with sej1v1 you going to die.

If a champion's early game talents are limited to "decent in a 2v2 and larger fights" (definitely not amongst the best though; Lee Sin and Elise are better, I personally wouldn't mind J4 or Rengar over Sejuani either for example), while the disadvantages include possibly the worst first clear (can't think of anyone worse? Naut, Rammus, Amumu all have way better) and awful 1v1 then you can't possibly claim to have "good early game", regardless of how you play. "Survivable" is probably the more accurate term here.


Fair. I think you're underestimating sej' clear and lockdown abilities though. I am biased though, have always liked sej.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
September 25 2014 17:57 GMT
#132
Can confirm soraka is pretty batshit right now, The heals are ridiculous.
Useless wet fish.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 25 2014 18:02 GMT
#133
Hardly a surprise. Her W's cooldown is too low.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
September 25 2014 18:08 GMT
#134
trick with sejuani is double junlge item wraith and spirtstone and ap runes into ap build
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 25 2014 18:09 GMT
#135
On September 26 2014 03:08 eagle wrote:
trick with sejuani is double junlge item wraith and spirtstone and ap runes into ap build

Sounds like pseudo-Trick2g style of play.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 25 2014 18:11 GMT
#136
I think people just need to make Raka a higher priority target. She just as squishy as ever and has no where near the self healing abilities she had before. Before it didn't matter who you focused first in terms of raw team fighting healing, but now it makes a big difference.

You kill Raka first now I think.
DrunkenOne
Profile Joined August 2012
United States302 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 18:14:44
September 25 2014 18:12 GMT
#137
On September 26 2014 02:43 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 02:37 DrunkenOne wrote:
Love that the Garen buffs went through even if they don't fix his laning. I thought for sure those numbers wouldn't make it through PBE. Running some quick numbers at lvl 18 with a build of something like thornmail/randuins/visage/locket/LW/mercs he regens something like 100 hp/sec with 300+ armor and 230+ MR. Can just shrug off all harass and regen 600 hp in 10 secs afterwards


If he regens 100 hp/sec how come it takes him 10 seconds to regen 600 hp?

first 4 secs he doesn't regen

edit: slow pony
Yarr?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 25 2014 18:18 GMT
#138
Yes. Let's focus on the Soraka instead of that Tristana.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 18:23:22
September 25 2014 18:22 GMT
#139
On September 26 2014 03:18 Sufficiency wrote:
Yes. Let's focus on the Soraka instead of that Tristana.


While Soraka gives Tristana peel, aoe silence, and 6000 eHP... While new Raka is alive you'll never kill anything else.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
September 25 2014 18:24 GMT
#140
On September 26 2014 03:11 iCanada wrote:
I think people just need to make Raka a higher priority target. She just as squishy as ever and has no where near the self healing abilities she had before. Before it didn't matter who you focused first in terms of raw team fighting healing, but now it makes a big difference.

You kill Raka first now I think.

Currently 4-1 with new Soraka, she's essentially an AP utility carry (that requires basically no items), and should be treated as such by the enemy IMO. In other words she's bonkers.
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