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[Patch 4.17] Soraka/Viktor General Discussion - Page 43

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Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
October 03 2014 14:49 GMT
#841
On October 03 2014 22:52 739 wrote:
hi
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fugly redefined
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
October 03 2014 15:06 GMT
#842
how long does it take to download/install lol from 0 ? i might need to reinstall having too many problems with bug splats etc recently
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
October 03 2014 15:14 GMT
#843
Depends on your internet connection.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 15:25:18
October 03 2014 15:23 GMT
#844
On October 03 2014 22:41 Alaric wrote:
I don't know, I haven't seen nearly as many bots as you did (only a single one, and it was bugged apparently, did nothing for ~15 minutes, then walked out of the fountain and started running in circles near an inhib, while pinging itself repeatedly).

Also, just don't stomp every single game by smurfing? Goof around, try some shit, and let your first 10-15 games go normally instead of stomping them knowing smurf island is waiting for you? ._. I won a bunch of games early too and started getting smurfs, so I laid back on purpose and after that I could do what I wanted and wasn't seeing more than 1 or 2 obvious smurfs on most games (that is, not even all of them).

I guess my point is "you won't enjoy the climb anyway if you spend all your games tryharding instead of goofing around just enough to keep it enjoyable for everyone".

Smurfs weren't the biggest problem for me when it comes to losing. it was being lvl 6 and laning vs a lvl 30 plat player who duo queued with a lvl 4 account. i don't really care what you are doing, but if you are playing free week champs with a lvl 6 account you are probably screwed against a lvl 30 player with full rune/mastery pages, flash and ignite ect. Its rough. At least when i hit smurfs around lvl 18 it was much easier because we were all roughly the same level accounts so none of us had a mathematical advantage, and it became about skill between the players. a lvl 30 shouldn't ever lose to a lvl 6 player in lane. you have to be so drastically worse than the other player in order to even lose a trade.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 03 2014 16:48 GMT
#845
Have any of the new icons actually been an improvement?
liftlift > tsm
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 16:56:05
October 03 2014 16:54 GMT
#846
On October 04 2014 01:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Have any of the new icons actually been an improvement?


Shyvana, Viktor, Kog, Urgot, Cait, Renek are all better

Ori is kinda eh, Vayne is kinda eh, the new lee one isn't as good as the current one, cass looks like some ugly 3D model.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 03 2014 16:59 GMT
#847
On October 03 2014 23:24 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 22:54 Simberto wrote:
You can not goof off enough to not win against completely new players. There is only so much you can do, and it is REALLY HARD to lose to people with 20 cs at 20 minutes with an reaction time of ~ 2 seconds and no idea in what position they should not be.


You could just hang out in jungle and when one of them gets fed on your team let them push into your base and win rather than going and killing them. If your team gets fed instead, well, that's just luck. I used to smurf a long time ago and even if everyone's CS was terrible there were still people dying all over the place, enough that people would push towers.

edit:

man I *hate* the lolesports website... all I want to do is see the schedule for when they will (re)broadcast things and there are spoilers EVERYWHERE ALL OVER THE PLACE.


Yea, but if your in the jungle, that means they will facecheck you 100% the time (if that isn't what you want). I had a dblade, no smite, Garen, "jungler" on my team that executed himself 3x before 10:00. I just played annie with Mobi Boots and killed things all over the map. Its not that the 1 game itself wasn't goofy, its that it got me like 1/10 an EXP bar to the next level. I remember my leveling being...much much faster.
Freeeeeeedom
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
October 03 2014 17:25 GMT
#848
On October 04 2014 01:54 Klonere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 01:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Have any of the new icons actually been an improvement?


Shyvana, Viktor, Kog, Urgot, Cait, Renek are all better

Ori is kinda eh, Vayne is kinda eh, the new lee one isn't as good as the current one, cass looks like some ugly 3D model.

I still think Orianna is the most horrible one. hardly identifyable, fugly as hell and doesn't even look like her imo. Just one dark grey smear....
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 17:29:05
October 03 2014 17:27 GMT
#849
Yeah, no, I remember taking a full month to reach level 30. It took time. But it wasn't a big deal because it's not like there was ranked and I sucked. I built, like, chalice/BT GP and Teemo before athene's ever existed, never mind what other kinds of horrible plays that I've forgotten by this point.

IDK, I still don't get why a newbie would want to rush to 30 and buy any kind of xp boost. The only thing you get is ranked, mastery points, and slots for runes. Most people don't play ranked, mastery points aren't very exciting by themselves, and you'll hardly have IP for the runes you want anyways if you buy xp boosts (unless you pair them with IP boosts or champ purchases but I don't think those justify the xp boosts). People make a big deal out of levels but IMO the ginormous huge IP cost of the champion pool seems like a much bigger deal to me. Getting to level 30 takes a month but getting every champion if you started now would literally take years unless you did nothing else.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
October 03 2014 17:35 GMT
#850
I bought quite a few exp boosts on my way to 30, it was a long time ago though. At around 20 i started playing draft mode with friends, I was watching streams, tournaments and reading guides like a demon and all that practice gave me the basic knowledge of how the "actual" game is played...Once i hit 30 and started playing ranked i wasn't even that bad. I was never below silver, still pissed about going on a huge loss streak at the end of S2 and dropping out of gold. Now in S4 its fucking inactivity deranking me back to silver. S3 you ask? Moved to sri lanka and had to adapt to 200+ ping and crawl out of Bronze 5 shitterville.

#FOREVERSILVER WHY DO YOU REMIND ME OF THIS I HATE YOU
Useless wet fish.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 03 2014 17:50 GMT
#851
Remember westdoor was 2500 Elo on NA with 170 ping.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 18:04:58
October 03 2014 18:02 GMT
#852
That's nice for him. I said i had to adapt to it from ~40 ping, which was a kick in the dick. Not that i couldn't play on it.

Long ranting explanation of how i actually ended up in B5 D:
+ Show Spoiler +
I did my placements after the great MMR "reset"/squish of end S2 / start S3 on completely 0 practice with 230 ping and got shot down into bronze (since my MMR was only ~mid silver before they did the MMR reset thing and i was suddenly supern00b) where i spent ages struggling with it and crawling back out. It didn't help that it wasn't just high ping but really really bad internet too. Eventually i learnt and got back to where i was before, then i moved home and it was all for nothing. Despite the ping, Bronze is actually ridiculously hard to carry yourself out of if you're only ~silver yourself, i also had a shitty mindset for a while that prevented me from improving because everyone else was a shitter and it was his fault and my lag sucked so much ass etc etc i wasn't helping myself but i was originally placed B4 and put into B5 just as fast.
Useless wet fish.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 03 2014 18:12 GMT
#853
On October 04 2014 01:54 Klonere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 01:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Have any of the new icons actually been an improvement?


Shyvana, Viktor, Kog, Urgot, Cait, Renek are all better

Ori is kinda eh, Vayne is kinda eh, the new lee one isn't as good as the current one, cass looks like some ugly 3D model.

tbh, all the ones you've mentioned minus maybe viktor were side-grades imo. maybe they'll look better (fit in more) once all the icons get updated to new art style.
On October 04 2014 02:50 Sufficiency wrote:
Remember westdoor was 2500 Elo on NA with 170 ping.

duh, semen is king.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 18:25:39
October 03 2014 18:22 GMT
#854
Kog is definitely more detailed, Renek is too but when it's the 3rd time they change his splash, and when it was the Chinese one it was particularly bad.
Shyvana's is... I dunno, the way they contrast the dark pink and red is weird. I preferred the previous splash.

Ori is straight-up worse just because of the loss of clarity. The way they used the colours, and the dark background make it harder to what you're looking at. Vayne's is... wut? It's not like her original splash was too good but the pose and stuff on the new one is caricatural. The portrait is 0K I guess though.

Lee's portrait feels less readable than the old one, or more weird, but quality-wise it's not that bad. Sure he's uglier but I don't mind some ugly champions too, apart from the ones intended to be comical (like Draven's outrageous mustache) or monsters, diversity's fine. o/


Qtpie's client has the featured games to spectate, on his stream. Mine has nothing because dev blog and community creations take up the space. How come. :<
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 18:26:24
October 03 2014 18:26 GMT
#855
Depends what server you are on.At least before that was the reason for any difference lol.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 03 2014 18:37 GMT
#856
On October 04 2014 01:59 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 23:24 phyvo wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:54 Simberto wrote:
You can not goof off enough to not win against completely new players. There is only so much you can do, and it is REALLY HARD to lose to people with 20 cs at 20 minutes with an reaction time of ~ 2 seconds and no idea in what position they should not be.


You could just hang out in jungle and when one of them gets fed on your team let them push into your base and win rather than going and killing them. If your team gets fed instead, well, that's just luck. I used to smurf a long time ago and even if everyone's CS was terrible there were still people dying all over the place, enough that people would push towers.

edit:

man I *hate* the lolesports website... all I want to do is see the schedule for when they will (re)broadcast things and there are spoilers EVERYWHERE ALL OVER THE PLACE.


Yea, but if your in the jungle, that means they will facecheck you 100% the time (if that isn't what you want). I had a dblade, no smite, Garen, "jungler" on my team that executed himself 3x before 10:00. I just played annie with Mobi Boots and killed things all over the map. Its not that the 1 game itself wasn't goofy, its that it got me like 1/10 an EXP bar to the next level. I remember my leveling being...much much faster.

I remember where if you won your first PvP match at lvl 1 you'd jump to lvl 3 off the xp, now you can only play vs AI and it takes 5 games to get to 3.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 03 2014 18:46 GMT
#857
Actually nope, at level 1 you jump to 2 in a single win, not 3. Even in s1 it wasn't the case.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 19:00:58
October 03 2014 18:52 GMT
#858
On October 04 2014 03:46 Alaric wrote:
Actually nope, at level 1 you jump to 2 in a single win, not 3. Even in s1 it wasn't the case.

before season 1 when i lvled my main you hit 3. man i remember making fun of it, saying whats the point of level 2 if you only get it when you lose.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 20:03:26
October 03 2014 20:02 GMT
#859
when I leveled my last account earlier this year, I was winning at an 80% clip and after doing the math I realized that spamming bots was still faster because of the game length, especially if you get that 1 loss in 5 in a long game it just tips the average so hard, this is also exasterbated by boosts, you pretty much have to be able to win 100% and even then the time xp/time after min 25 is just not good enough so you have to be really good at closing, compared to pushing down bot as an adc vs bots, stalling 5 min and then ending, it's really boring but it's the most efficient by a wide margin

(even in the 25-29 bracket where bots are the least efficient)
Carrilord has arrived.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 03 2014 20:06 GMT
#860
also I know it was a couple pages ago, but I wanted to touch on the conversation about "being good at getting carried/being safe" > "I'M THE CARRY" for solo Q, I love this sentiment and I think an amazing example is that Hai was the only LCS player to break into challenger on KR solo Q

just having good game awareness and being in the right spot to help your team is better than being a lane monster(not that being a lane monster is mutually exclusive or bad)
Carrilord has arrived.
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