EPT[Patch 4.17] Soraka/Viktor General Discussion - Page 41
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On October 03 2014 06:49 PrinceXizor wrote: i dunno man, on my main i have good games that i enjoy playing, on the smurf i couldnt convince my team that going for dragon instead of dancing outside mid tier 1 vs a ziggs was a better option in fact i couldnt convince anyone of anything. i just had to follow and try to win fights, which is hard to do solo when everyone has their own ideas. Of course the exception to the rule is when you're actually way better than the rest of your team, but in most cases you actually aren't. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
If you are not, then you just play to have the biggest impact, this can be warding, carrying 2 lanes with ganks, killing enemy towers, making one enemy ragequit....whatever. The only thing i avoid is playing those support supports in gold. You have a good chance to get a tard adc and all your laning skill is wasted because your adc wants to lasthit at tower while spamming retreat ping and missing half of the CS, i hate that shit. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
plus, depending on the absurd thing you choose, it can be really fun. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
On October 03 2014 08:02 LaNague wrote: if you are 2 leagues better than the other people, you just play Yi or someshit and kill everone and end the game before your team can throw. If you are not, then you just play to have the biggest impact, this can be warding, carrying 2 lanes with ganks, killing enemy towers, making one enemy ragequit....whatever. The only thing i avoid is playing those support supports in gold. You have a good chance to get a tard adc and all your laning skill is wasted because your adc wants to lasthit at tower while spamming retreat ping and missing half of the CS, i hate that shit. In gold or lower ELOs, run the Mata? build. Full AD marks/quints some flat AP blues, and just 1v2 the lane. You can do this on Janna, soraka, sona or whatever. 1v2 the lane. With good lane positioning, you should be able to at least zone for your AD carry to last hit. You can get enough of a respite from doing this to make it out even in lane most of the time. | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On October 03 2014 08:14 krndandaman wrote: depends on your playstyle/champ pool as well. I really like utility champs/roles and my shittiest roles are adc/mid. I often cannot single-handedly carry silver games where I am the only plat (need some help) yet I will hold my own with high diamonds. on the other hand I have a friend who is the same rank that is a mid main and absolutely shits on anyone gold and below but gets shit on by diamonds. dude averages 10+ kills/5+deaths a game, nuff said lol. I'm a bit the same. ADC is my worst, and I prefer playing utility focused champs. But I still like mid the most, then support. The key is finding champs that can do both. E.g. I play a lot of Zyra and Vel'Koz, because they can do both and perform well at both. | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
I just sampled about 1200 "new" players (I believe these accounts may be created after September 30th). Out of these players, ~300 of them played at least one game of Cassiopeia. Out of these 300 players, about ~80 of them dealt 0 magical damage for their games. That's basically impossible. A single Cass Q on minions deal 70ish damage per minion. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 03 2014 11:43 phyvo wrote: A lot of bots aren't visible to the general playerbase because they play dominion instead of SR, and are busy leveling accounts. As a result they tend to screw over new people's dominion games and make them unplayable. What map are those accounts playing? Didn't check yet lol. I suspect TT or Dom. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On October 03 2014 06:08 kongoline wrote: anyone else having problems with certain skins lagging computer? i cant play with dragonwing corki in my game my fps always drops to 10 or even lower when hes on my screen, normaly i have fps cap and no lags -.- I've had 2 games where I played Corki and in both of them, at least one person on their team complained about lag. Brushed it off as them being sarcastic/mad, but I guess there may be truth lol. I myself (using it), hasn't noticed a thing. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
By the way, the new Lee Sin splash and especially the character icon is ... Well, just look at i. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On October 03 2014 11:14 Sufficiency wrote: Oh man. The botting issue with Riot is more serious than I thought. I believe ~25% of the new accounts are being botted. I just sampled about 1200 "new" players (I believe these accounts may be created after September 30th). Out of these players, ~300 of them played at least one game of Cassiopeia. Out of these 300 players, about ~80 of them dealt 0 magical damage for their games. That's basically impossible. A single Cass Q on minions deal 70ish damage per minion. Someone's got to have a supply of level 30 accounts for the hackers and trolls to buy. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
On October 03 2014 13:32 Sufficiency wrote: Looks to me that most of the botting are Custom Dominion games. I was gonna write it up tonight but I think this is too complex for me to do at midnight tonight. I'll get a bit more data and try to analyze it over the weekend. Dominion Co-op vs AI is over 50% bots. I played some a while ago and the way the bots are programmed is to never attack or cast spells but to run to random points, not cap them like a player at max range but stand in the CENTER of the point wait a few seconds to account for +- travel time, then cap. The idea is to let the AI win, but delay the game to the 7m threshhold for IP/EXP. Pretty basic stuff. | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
My partner is a pretty decent ADC, however whenever we duo bot we go like 8-1 out of lane. Which would be great, wouldn't the top Riven be already 12-0-0, the jungle Rengar 7-2-10 and mid Fizz 6-1-5. By minute 15. I feel like the key is just to prevent retards to get on positions they die easily. Like top lane. While bot isn't simply smashed to pieces anymore, I noticed a significant reduction in variance and an increase in win rate. I mean I simply suck on solo positions, but the fact that the other team isn't fed out of their mind allows us to just win more... | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On October 03 2014 14:13 NovaTheFeared wrote: Dominion Co-op vs AI is over 50% bots. I played some a while ago and the way the bots are programmed is to never attack or cast spells but to run to random points, not cap them like a player at max range but stand in the CENTER of the point wait a few seconds to account for +- travel time, then cap. The idea is to let the AI win, but delay the game to the 7m threshhold for IP/EXP. Pretty basic stuff. Actually delaying the initial cap is the winning strategy in dominion. By being a few points down after the initial fight over top you have (or had, was patched recently) a significant respawn advantage which would let you get to key points on the map and hold them in advance of the enemy. Bots probably just do it because allowing for imprecision is easier than not. | ||
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