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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On September 05 2014 02:19 RealScYx17 wrote: Your face when you realize I really was on Team Liquid please send me. + Show Spoiler + REKT OH GOD can you link a game where you're not feeding | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
Watching DLift play Poppy with double Philo+ double HoG was like watching a ticking time bomb getting ready to explode. | ||
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padfoota
Taiwan1571 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On September 05 2014 04:04 krndandaman wrote: dunno if im spoiled by today's quality but that vod is unwatchable. I don't understand what's going on... vision of only 1 team, hit points are all weird, laggy animations(?), etc. Welcome to casting tournaments from LoLReplay in S1. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 05 2014 02:34 Ketara wrote: One of my friends told me recently that DotA heroes range from 30 to 70% winrate in their version of ranked play or whatever, is this true? Ranked is predominantly all pick. You'd have a much wider winrate spread in league too if all champs were free and ranked had no bans. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
not sure how bans affect winrate of champions though? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 05 2014 04:31 Scip wrote: I doubt that that would be the case at least dia+ where everyone has most champions/plays mostly champions that they are comfortable with though not sure how bans affect winrate of champions though? People random, pick weird shit and overall care a lot less about pubs than in League. Throw in some bans then you in serious mode. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Meanwhile in EU challenger scene, diana picked by unicorns of love vs SKP. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
In League, it's far less likely for a player who has no clue what they're doing to play those kinds of heroes. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On September 05 2014 02:56 Numy wrote: You're thinking of post rework Drow/SB/Cent where these heroes are banned in Captains mode but released into the wild pub circuit. I like this system myself, allows icefrog to do retarded stuff like Global Stampede that stuns without completely breaking the competitive game. Technically Riot does that too, by disabling champions for two weeks after their reworks. As for itemisation, imagine if building Diana Zhonya's + Abyssal let her do as much damage as Lichbane + Deathcap now, that's pretty much DotA. Pretty hard scaling damage abilities/passives (Naix basically has BotRK's passive as his,' cept he also heals for as much as it damages, and his slow/damage amp ability increases everyone's sustain basically) and hybrid itemisation means you already have the damage by default, you just build to survive. You also don't have to devote more than one slot to crit (and not everyone does it, while marksmen all build at least 2 items with crit, major items too apart from those relying on Triforce/Ghostblade builds), and you're generally stronger by virtue of being a bunch of levels higher than the non-core enemies, so more stats (DotA goes to 25 levels and supports usually lag behind by a ton). | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On September 05 2014 04:42 TheYango wrote: The thing is, many of the low winrate heroes aren't bad heroes, but rather are incredibly strong heroes that are ridiculously punishing to play poorly (Morphling, Wisp, Earth Spirit, Chen, etc.). In League, it's far less likely for a player who has no clue what they're doing to play those kinds of heroes. When people mention heroes/champs with high winrates and low play rates like sejuani, I always hear the argument that a hero only has that winrate because the only people who play them are (sej) mains. But I never hear that low win rate heroes have an overinflated winrate because they're not popular and are only played by Chen mains. Bad in pubs is bad in pubs. http://dotametrics.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/680winrates.png Meepo's considered one of the hardest heroes to play correctly, and you need macros and a couple practice games to even play him at like 50% effectiveness, yet he's got the biggest difference from low to high level play. Here I assume higher level players have refined their skills with the heroes they do play eg. Meepo. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 05 2014 04:42 Fusilero wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_lol Meanwhile in EU challenger scene, diana picked by unicorns of love vs SKP. Tune in to see Diana get wrecked. Why do you do this to me  .Disabling someone for 2 weeks is hardly enough time for anything. Think ES has been out of CM for like a year now? Well he's never actually been in CM I think. I know Drow/Cent were out for quite some time too. On September 05 2014 04:59 obesechicken13 wrote: When people mention heroes/champs with high winrates and low play rates like sejuani, I always hear the argument that a hero only has that winrate because the only people who play them are (sej) mains. But I never hear that low win rate heroes have an overinflated winrate because they're not popular and are only played by Chen mains. Bad in pubs is bad in pubs. http://dotametrics.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/680winrates.png Meepo's considered one of the hardest heroes to play correctly, and you need macros and a couple practice games to even play him at like 50% effectiveness, yet he's got the biggest difference from low to high level play. Here I assume higher level players have refined their skills with the heroes they do play eg. Meepo. I find it interesting about the whole only bad in pubs thing. The closest I know of this in league is the old Leblanc having a slightly below par winrate in pubs but super high play rate in comp games. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/creative-spotlight/dev-blog-exploring-runeterra Also that SKP vs UOL game was a stomp. UOL please. | ||
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padfoota
Taiwan1571 Posts
Shit winrate strong champ. Oddly enough, the winrate drops the higher you go in leagues for Lee Sin here in China pre nerf, and post nerf hes averaging a cool 47% from bronze to dia, then 50% in challenger. Somehow, through all the nerfs on junglers, Jarvan is once again back on top. Riot will probably start the nerf cycle again | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
On September 05 2014 05:12 ketchup wrote: some LoL lore news: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/creative-spotlight/dev-blog-exploring-runeterra Also that SKP vs UOL game was a stomp. UOL please. This entire blog is essentially restating things they've said in the past as to why they are not going to bother with the journal anymore and then alluding(at least in my opinion) that they plan to pretty much do a reboot of the lore in some fashion and toss out the old stuff they don't like. I am not sure how I feel about this to be honest. Most definitely needs more information and details but they obviously want to either axe the Summoner/Champion dynamic or reframe it from puppetmaster/puppet to a more equal partnership. At least I hope they are shifting to like equal partner and not just axeing the entire summoner thing. Which I thought was pretty awesome in the first place. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On September 05 2014 05:26 Parnage wrote: This entire blog is essentially restating things they've said in the past as to why they are not going to bother with the journal anymore and then alluding(at least in my opinion) that they plan to pretty much do a reboot of the lore in some fashion and toss out the old stuff they don't like. I am not sure how I feel about this to be honest. Most definitely needs more information and details but they obviously want to either axe the Summoner/Champion dynamic or reframe it from puppetmaster/puppet to a more equal partnership. At least I hope they are shifting to like equal partner and not just axeing the entire summoner thing. Which I thought was pretty awesome in the first place. Yeah, seems like a reboot. I think the original LoL lore had something funny/goofy about it, and that was part of it's charm at times. It didn't try to take itself too seriously, and still had a decent story. I don't mind the reboot too much, but I will miss the attitude of the old lore(a bit more laid back and silly). I hope they remake certain JoJ articles though. For example, if they can reincorporate LeBlanc pretending to be Jarvan IV to incite the war, it would be cool. There were some decent stories that could be made out of some of the JoJ stuff. | ||
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