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Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
September 04 2014 15:53 GMT
#981
On September 04 2014 15:11 sob3k wrote:
I know we've pretty much gone over why melee carries dont exist in LOL, but if you look mundo is actually pretty sick in the role.

1. Completely spammable incredibly strong slow with fat % health damage for infinite chasing.
2. 30% innate tenacity
3. Fucking absurd 100% uptime AD steroid (100+ad)
4. 12 second 35% speed boost

If you build him like an ADC you can fucking wreck anyone, you just use ult entirely for the speed. With a lifesteal item his steroid negates all his health costs. Pretty crazy, that steroid is just stupid. Vayne ult gives her 70 Ad when maxed, Mundo E gives up to 200 AD with 100% uptime. You basically can't run from him with the tenacity, cleavers, and ult...and your phantom dancer ofc.


I have a friend who likes to do this when he goofs off in normals. Like most weird builds, it relies entirely on him getting ahead (so it isn't really any good), but it's hilarious to watch him run people down and two shot them while regaining all his health from life steal and his ult.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 04 2014 16:15 GMT
#982
In DotA melee carries are like Vi, not Yi.

Get a big engage move, tank killing abilities, and itemization that allows them to be hella tanky and do all the damages. Imagine Vi with old-school atmogs+wits end+GA and you have a DotA melee carry.

Man they nerfed tank itemization hard. The switch between old-school wits and BotRK such a huge melee nerf. Very similar items, but BtoRK is much worse for melees and instead of being less effective on tanky champs it's more effective.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 04 2014 16:25 GMT
#983
On September 05 2014 01:15 iCanada wrote:
In DotA melee carries are like Vi, not Yi.

Get a big engage move, tank killing abilities, and itemization that allows them to be hella tanky and do all the damages. Imagine Vi with old-school atmogs+wits end+GA and you have a DotA melee carry.

Man they nerfed tank itemization hard. The switch between old-school wits and BotRK such a huge melee nerf. Very similar items, but BtoRK is much worse for melees and instead of being less effective on tanky champs it's more effective.

The point was for it to be a tank buster.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 04 2014 16:31 GMT
#984
Yeah, those range need more help because they have the burden of kiting!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 04 2014 16:32 GMT
#985
On September 05 2014 01:15 iCanada wrote:
In DotA melee carries are like Vi, not Yi.

Get a big engage move, tank killing abilities, and itemization that allows them to be hella tanky and do all the damages. Imagine Vi with old-school atmogs+wits end+GA and you have a DotA melee carry.

Man they nerfed tank itemization hard. The switch between old-school wits and BotRK such a huge melee nerf. Very similar items, but BtoRK is much worse for melees and instead of being less effective on tanky champs it's more effective.

Puchasable olaf ultra is a big part of it too
Carrilord has arrived.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
September 04 2014 16:34 GMT
#986
wow dota sounds like a much more fun game
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 04 2014 16:38 GMT
#987
On September 05 2014 01:34 riotjune wrote:
wow dota sounds like a much more fun game


Imagining this is a real Riot account makes me giggle.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 04 2014 17:07 GMT
#988
Don't get me wrong, I have more fun playing lol, that's why I'm here.

That being said, I like a lot of the design decisions made in dota.

RealScYx17
Profile Joined September 2014
2 Posts
September 04 2014 17:19 GMT
#989
On September 04 2014 08:19 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 08:16 Ketara wrote:
On September 04 2014 07:45 Capped wrote:
Daily dose of attention whoring twitch girls

http://www.twitch.tv/scyx17

"I played on Team Liquid until I moved to Defy All odds I then ran my own team called split push."

OH REALLY?

"I have Streamed for CLG and TSM at various points."

Well obviously, you were on TL, why wouldnt you?

"I have also beaten all of Amnesia Lights off playthrough is here."

Definitely an equal achievement to be mentioned with the previous two statements.


Honestly this isn't the worst twitch girl stream I've seen.

There's far worse.


It's the worst I've seen, I welcome a competition in this!


Your face when you realize I really was on Team Liquid please send me.



REKT
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 04 2014 17:25 GMT
#990
so much nostalgia.... dicksuckchan the god among gods, ezpz AD, smash, who is dis ChrispySC though
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
September 04 2014 17:33 GMT
#991
Oh man. The burns.

DotA and LoL have very different design philosophy, but I think LoL is more balanced atm. But that led to tons of champ being very similar.
The legend of Darien lives on
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 04 2014 17:34 GMT
#992
One of my friends told me recently that DotA heroes range from 30 to 70% winrate in their version of ranked play or whatever, is this true?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 04 2014 17:40 GMT
#993
Udyr and gp used to be melee carries...
liftlift > tsm
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
September 04 2014 17:46 GMT
#994
On September 05 2014 02:34 Ketara wrote:
One of my friends told me recently that DotA heroes range from 30 to 70% winrate in their version of ranked play or whatever, is this true?

http://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/winning

A bit of an exaggeration to say 30-70% but definitely a bit more than LoL, where Amumu rarely cracks 55% and Urgot can usually stay above 40%.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
September 04 2014 17:49 GMT
#995
On September 05 2014 02:46 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:34 Ketara wrote:
One of my friends told me recently that DotA heroes range from 30 to 70% winrate in their version of ranked play or whatever, is this true?

http://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/winning

A bit of an exaggeration to say 30-70% but definitely a bit more than LoL, where Amumu rarely cracks 55% and Urgot can usually stay above 40%.

Drow used to be around 65% 18 months ago iirc. DotA is terribly balanced for pubs, that's for sure.
The legend of Darien lives on
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 17:56:43
September 04 2014 17:54 GMT
#996
On September 05 2014 02:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Udyr and gp used to be melee carries...


RIP inervating locket and old gp.

They nerfed gp hard. They killed his base stats, his Q, his W, his E, his passive... I think literally the only thing on gp they didn't nerf is his R.

Remember when they nerfed his E so it didn't deny creeps and called it a buff? Lol.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 18:06:05
September 04 2014 17:55 GMT
#997
On September 05 2014 02:19 RealScYx17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 08:19 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:16 Ketara wrote:
On September 04 2014 07:45 Capped wrote:
Daily dose of attention whoring twitch girls

http://www.twitch.tv/scyx17

"I played on Team Liquid until I moved to Defy All odds I then ran my own team called split push."

OH REALLY?

"I have Streamed for CLG and TSM at various points."

Well obviously, you were on TL, why wouldnt you?

"I have also beaten all of Amnesia Lights off playthrough is here."

Definitely an equal achievement to be mentioned with the previous two statements.


Honestly this isn't the worst twitch girl stream I've seen.

There's far worse.


It's the worst I've seen, I welcome a competition in this!


Your face when you realize I really was on Team Liquid please send me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i-Y1lRUdhs

REKT


On September 04 2014 07:59 Capped wrote:
I stand corrected, sorta. Pushing the boundaries of "truth" to its limit i suppose.

I actually found this person while browsing HLTV (http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=650058) and saw these strange ass claims.

At the time she was dancing around, naturally bent over towards her cam with a low cut top on.


On September 04 2014 08:03 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 08:00 yamato77 wrote:
Dunno that you should even care to post that kind of thing anyway

People stream, so what. If you don't like them, you're free not to watch them.


Dunno why you would care enough to post that kind of thing anyway

People post, so what, if you dont like them, you're free not to reply to them.

tl;dr - Clicked thread on HLTV, saw weird ass person dancing, scrolled down to info, see strange claims about playing for TL (who have never affiliated with an official TL team.) took 2 seconds to post it, proven wrong(ish), post about being wrong(ish), move on.


My two replies on the subject already, in your hurry to spam REKT in my face you forgot to scroll down

Calling that team "team liquid" as a source of previous achievements is pretty damn sketchy if you ask me though, since it was never actually THE team liquid (It was "Liquid blue" a team made by fans of TL) and is easily misconstrued. But i'm sure you knew and understood this when you did it, so fair game to you.
Useless wet fish.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 04 2014 17:56 GMT
#998
On September 05 2014 02:49 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:46 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:34 Ketara wrote:
One of my friends told me recently that DotA heroes range from 30 to 70% winrate in their version of ranked play or whatever, is this true?

http://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/winning

A bit of an exaggeration to say 30-70% but definitely a bit more than LoL, where Amumu rarely cracks 55% and Urgot can usually stay above 40%.

Drow used to be around 65% 18 months ago iirc. DotA is terribly balanced for pubs, that's for sure.


You're thinking of post rework Drow/SB/Cent where these heroes are banned in Captains mode but released into the wild pub circuit. I like this system myself, allows icefrog to do retarded stuff like Global Stampede that stuns without completely breaking the competitive game.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 17:58:57
September 04 2014 17:58 GMT
#999
On September 05 2014 02:56 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:49 mr_tolkien wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:46 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:34 Ketara wrote:
One of my friends told me recently that DotA heroes range from 30 to 70% winrate in their version of ranked play or whatever, is this true?

http://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/winning

A bit of an exaggeration to say 30-70% but definitely a bit more than LoL, where Amumu rarely cracks 55% and Urgot can usually stay above 40%.

Drow used to be around 65% 18 months ago iirc. DotA is terribly balanced for pubs, that's for sure.


You're thinking of post rework Drow/SB/Cent where these heroes are banned in Captains mode but released into the wild pub circuit. I like this system myself, allows icefrog to do retarded stuff like Global Stampede that stuns without completely breaking the competitive game.

Yeah but it breaks pubs, which is what 99% of the players are playing... I don't really this as a good thing, as much as I love DotO.
The legend of Darien lives on
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 04 2014 18:00 GMT
#1000
On September 05 2014 02:07 iCanada wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I have more fun playing lol, that's why I'm here.

That being said, I like a lot of the design decisions made in dota.


I sometimes wonder how some LoL champions would look if IceFrog were to balance them.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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