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[Patch 4.15] Master Tier General Discussion - Page 35

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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 31 2014 19:47 GMT
#681
On September 01 2014 02:44 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 02:40 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 01 2014 02:28 Alaric wrote:
Depends. Usually if you're ahead (and your lanes aren't behind) you can easily group up and either force dragons, or the rest of the outer turrets ring. After that it's mostly controlling objectives (buffs, dragon, baron) and warding their side of the map so you can catch them in the jungle and/or during rotations.


So I still ward even as mid?

Yes. Always ward, because if you can see shit and the opponent can't, you win most of the time. best ward spots are the river bushes(ones in the middle of the river, usually pink if possible), and green ward their wraith area.

The pink in a spotbush has become so common that people are often checking it as low as high bronze/low silver. Currently sneaky spot is right at the end of the banana bush.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 31 2014 20:01 GMT
#682
Why doesn't LoL have tower stats?

Like wtf, seems pretty obvious to me that damage dealt to towers should be a great stat.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 31 2014 20:24 GMT
#683
Damage shielded would be a great stat.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 31 2014 21:08 GMT
#684
On September 01 2014 03:35 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 02:43 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 01 2014 02:35 krndandaman wrote:
On September 01 2014 02:21 docvoc wrote:
hey guys I'm wondering, I got to Plat V this summer from Silver V, and I wanna try to make the jump to Diamond V this coming winter break, but I don't wanna get rusty while not playing during the college semester. I can't play during College because its too much of a distraction, even though I only played a game or two a day in the summer for the most part. I'd rather focus on other kinds of fun, plus possible pledgeship, and other thin?s like, for instance, academics lol. So is there any way of becoming less rusty over time so I can still keep improving from the spot I left off on?


you should know that all things, including league and academics, require time and effort. so I'm guessing you won't play more than 5 games a week- that's not really enough to improve a full tier but should be enough to stay relatively the same. For me playing only 1 or 2 games a week was enough to stay in plat. Seeing how going up a tier seems kinda low on your priority list, it's only expected that you probably won't improve in it.

@torte

push your lane and then help your jungler. roam together and take control of the enemy jungle through deep wards and invading with your jungler. perhaps go for a 3v1 dive top, force drag, etc. Vision helps you to keep track of the enemy jungler so you can force objectives and make plays. You remove the enemy jungler from the equation by doing this, and the enemy mid by pushing your lane and forcing him to farm.


What do I do if I'm losing mid? Like this game I just lost mid hard as I was ganked twice by Rengar and he just beat me overall (Malzahar).

Do I stay in the lane and eventually take his tower or try my hand at something else?


When you are losing, you will often find yourself unable to control your lane... simply because he can kill you more easily and/or outshove you. Depending on the match up, you will often find yourself being constantly shoved to your own tower.

The best thing to do in this situation is to keep your lane warded. Just put a ward in the middle of the lane. This will allow you to keep track of the opposing mid laner while you are at your own tower. It's not the ideal situation, but if you can't 1v1 him you should just provide warnings to your teammates as much as possible and hopefully they can deal with him.

You can also try to follow him. It depends on who you are playing as and who you are against, plus how your team looks like. But if you are behind, do so carefully because it might make things worse for you.


It sounds like I should still stay in lane though.

I just played a game where there was literally nothing I can do to keep Yasuo out as he completely crushed me. It was brutal and staying in the lane just fed him more, eventually I tried to help top and such it was way too late.

https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Chemiczny84
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland458 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 21:26:36
August 31 2014 21:21 GMT
#685
On September 01 2014 04:14 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 02:48 Torte de Lini wrote:

What does the trinket upgrade do, its the only thing I can't differentiate. Do I buy that or individual wards?

.



So quick explanation on trinkets.

Yellow : 1 minute ward, 3 minute CD. At level 9 its a 2 minute ward. If you pay 475 gold (only available after level 9) you get a 3 minute ward or a pink ward both on a three minute CD depending on the upgrade.



http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Trinket_item
3 minute green ward, 90 sec cd or unlimited time pink (until destroyed) 180 sec cd
green limit: 3 at a time, pink limit: 1
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
August 31 2014 22:19 GMT
#686
On September 01 2014 05:24 Ketara wrote:
Damage shielded would be a great stat.

Counts as and is tracked as damage healed. But that doesn't track yasuo/Braum spells stopped.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 01 2014 00:01 GMT
#687
Sigh....
Random lag for everyone in game again. ;-;
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11960 Posts
September 01 2014 00:01 GMT
#688
On September 01 2014 03:29 MindBreaker wrote:
there is hope for the human race. just ended a ranked game (won of course maokai op) and then proceded to have a 10 minute religious conversation with a muslim dude from egypt about the similarities of our religions (im christian) and how we both believe in the same god....


Yeah, basically most religions can be narrowed down to "Don't be an asshole". The rest is more or less facade. And generally speaking not being an asshole is a pretty good ethical principle, not matter if you are religious or not. Sadly some people focus too much on small details so they forget about the main point.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 01 2014 00:10 GMT
#689
On September 01 2014 09:01 BlackPaladin wrote:
Sigh....
Random lag for everyone in game again. ;-;


Fear the DDOS
Chemiczny84
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland458 Posts
September 01 2014 01:03 GMT
#690
On September 01 2014 09:01 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 03:29 MindBreaker wrote:
there is hope for the human race. just ended a ranked game (won of course maokai op) and then proceded to have a 10 minute religious conversation with a muslim dude from egypt about the similarities of our religions (im christian) and how we both believe in the same god....


Yeah, basically most religions can be narrowed down to "Don't be an asshole". The rest is more or less facade. And generally speaking not being an asshole is a pretty good ethical principle, not matter if you are religious or not. Sadly some people focus too much on small details so they forget about the main point.

well, you you do live in a soon-to-be-muslim country, the part about not being an asshole depends on your definition of the word... every monotheistic religion is evil, depends on how much it had to civilize...
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 01 2014 01:08 GMT
#691
On September 01 2014 07:19 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 05:24 Ketara wrote:
Damage shielded would be a great stat.

Counts as and is tracked as damage healed. But that doesn't track yasuo/Braum spells stopped.


No it's not.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 01 2014 01:19 GMT
#692
On September 01 2014 10:08 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 07:19 Goumindong wrote:
On September 01 2014 05:24 Ketara wrote:
Damage shielded would be a great stat.

Counts as and is tracked as damage healed. But that doesn't track yasuo/Braum spells stopped.


No it's not.


Yes? Look at the "healing done" stat of someone with no life steal/healing and only shields It will be significantly positive.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 01 2014 01:32 GMT
#693
On September 01 2014 10:19 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 10:08 Ketara wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:19 Goumindong wrote:
On September 01 2014 05:24 Ketara wrote:
Damage shielded would be a great stat.

Counts as and is tracked as damage healed. But that doesn't track yasuo/Braum spells stopped.


No it's not.


Yes? Look at the "healing done" stat of someone with no life steal/healing and only shields It will be significantly positive.


Look at this TF game I played:

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1514772127/48338815

I did 700 healing. My TF had no life steal or spell vamp.

https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 01 2014 01:47 GMT
#694
On September 01 2014 10:32 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 10:19 Goumindong wrote:
On September 01 2014 10:08 Ketara wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:19 Goumindong wrote:
On September 01 2014 05:24 Ketara wrote:
Damage shielded would be a great stat.

Counts as and is tracked as damage healed. But that doesn't track yasuo/Braum spells stopped.


No it's not.


Yes? Look at the "healing done" stat of someone with no life steal/healing and only shields It will be significantly positive.


Look at this TF game I played:

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1514772127/48338815

I did 700 healing. My TF had no life steal or spell vamp.



Them masteries yo.

Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 01 2014 01:53 GMT
#695
On September 01 2014 10:47 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 10:32 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 01 2014 10:19 Goumindong wrote:
On September 01 2014 10:08 Ketara wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:19 Goumindong wrote:
On September 01 2014 05:24 Ketara wrote:
Damage shielded would be a great stat.

Counts as and is tracked as damage healed. But that doesn't track yasuo/Braum spells stopped.


No it's not.


Yes? Look at the "healing done" stat of someone with no life steal/healing and only shields It will be significantly positive.


Look at this TF game I played:

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1514772127/48338815

I did 700 healing. My TF had no life steal or spell vamp.



Them masteries yo.



I am almost 100% certain the healing swirl from jungle monsters also count.

The point is, I am not too convinced that shield counts unless someone go into a game, shield a bunch of times, finish up the game, then look at the "Healing Done" field.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 01 2014 02:10 GMT
#696
I think you're right, don't think it's counted actively.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 02:33:29
September 01 2014 02:33 GMT
#697
On September 01 2014 10:19 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 10:08 Ketara wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:19 Goumindong wrote:
On September 01 2014 05:24 Ketara wrote:
Damage shielded would be a great stat.

Counts as and is tracked as damage healed. But that doesn't track yasuo/Braum spells stopped.


No it's not.


Yes? Look at the "healing done" stat of someone with no life steal/healing and only shields It will be significantly positive.


Okay, lets look at my most recent Lux game.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1516719762/43410355

In this 43 minute game, with level 18, barrier, and a 500 strength teamwide AoE shield spell, I "healed" for 1,100.

It doesn't count shields.

It does count potions, which is where that 1100 comes from.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 02:45:11
September 01 2014 02:39 GMT
#698
I play a lot of Janna and there is no way that the numbers I get for healing done are just my ult.

E.G. One full channel ult in this game. 7.8k healing done. Doesn't make sense unless it's catching my shields as well.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1513391594/32634150
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 01 2014 02:44 GMT
#699
POST UR STATS BREH
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 01 2014 02:49 GMT
#700
On September 01 2014 11:39 Goumindong wrote:
I play a lot of Janna and there is no way that the numbers I get for healing done are just my ult.

E.G. One full channel ult in this game. 7.8k healing done. Doesn't make sense unless it's catching my shields as well.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1513391594/32634150


Sure it does.

It's a 32 minute game.

One rank 1 no AP Janna ult can potentially heal for 1500.

It's very easy to think that over the course of a 32 minute game between HP regen on your Talisman, potions, and ult that you healed for 7.8k.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
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