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Riot is ruining the spirit of the game imo 
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SK will be on tv total :D
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Just won again, it was a stomp overall. I have a question though: after I win my lane by destroying his tower and I pick up Athene's, do I start looking for fights or push another tower and farm more gold?
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hey guys I'm wondering, I got to Plat V this summer from Silver V, and I wanna try to make the jump to Diamond V this coming winter break, but I don't wanna get rusty while not playing during the college semester. I can't play during College because its too much of a distraction, even though I only played a game or two a day in the summer for the most part. I'd rather focus on other kinds of fun, plus possible pledgeship, and other thin?s like, for instance, academics lol. So is there any way of becoming less rusty over time so I can still keep improving from the spot I left off on?
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Depends. Usually if you're ahead (and your lanes aren't behind) you can easily group up and either force dragons, or the rest of the outer turrets ring. After that it's mostly controlling objectives (buffs, dragon, baron) and warding their side of the map so you can catch them in the jungle and/or during rotations.
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@Torte:
Do both. If other guy is zoned, zone him and shove your creeps in hard, then when your creeps start walking through where his tower used to be, go look for a fight.
Its win win because if you that ahead he needs the creeps anyway, and even if he roams with you your contribution to the fight will be much much greater. Usually though he can't stop that roam at all.
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On September 01 2014 02:28 Alaric wrote:
Depends. Usually if you're ahead (and your lanes aren't behind) you can easily group up and either force dragons, or the rest of the outer turrets ring. After that it's mostly controlling objectives (buffs, dragon, baron) and warding their side of the map so you can catch them in the jungle and/or during rotations.
So I still ward even as mid?
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You ward as every position.
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On September 01 2014 02:40 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 02:28 Alaric wrote:
Depends. Usually if you're ahead (and your lanes aren't behind) you can easily group up and either force dragons, or the rest of the outer turrets ring. After that it's mostly controlling objectives (buffs, dragon, baron) and warding their side of the map so you can catch them in the jungle and/or during rotations. So I still ward even as mid?
Of course.
Dont be greedy, buy vision win games.
Do all the warding, do all the winning. Its like Tiger blood just it only costs 75g and it doesn't require being charlie sheen.
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On September 01 2014 02:35 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 02:21 docvoc wrote:
hey guys I'm wondering, I got to Plat V this summer from Silver V, and I wanna try to make the jump to Diamond V this coming winter break, but I don't wanna get rusty while not playing during the college semester. I can't play during College because its too much of a distraction, even though I only played a game or two a day in the summer for the most part. I'd rather focus on other kinds of fun, plus possible pledgeship, and other thin?s like, for instance, academics lol. So is there any way of becoming less rusty over time so I can still keep improving from the spot I left off on? you should know that all things, including league and academics, require time and effort. so I'm guessing you won't play more than 5 games a week- that's not really enough to improve a full tier but should be enough to stay relatively the same. For me playing only 1 or 2 games a week was enough to stay in plat. Seeing how going up a tier seems kinda low on your priority list, it's only expected that you probably won't improve in it. @torte push your lane and then help your jungler. roam together and take control of the enemy jungle through deep wards and invading with your jungler. perhaps go for a 3v1 dive top, force drag, etc. Vision helps you to keep track of the enemy jungler so you can force objectives and make plays. You remove the enemy jungler from the equation by doing this, and the enemy mid by pushing your lane and forcing him to farm.
What do I do if I'm losing mid? Like this game I just lost mid hard as I was ganked twice by Rengar and he just beat me overall (Malzahar).
Do I stay in the lane and eventually take his tower or try my hand at something else?
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Mid and Jungle are probably the 2 most important postions to ward early game.
Also buy pinks, they are pretty good.
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On September 01 2014 02:40 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 02:28 Alaric wrote:
Depends. Usually if you're ahead (and your lanes aren't behind) you can easily group up and either force dragons, or the rest of the outer turrets ring. After that it's mostly controlling objectives (buffs, dragon, baron) and warding their side of the map so you can catch them in the jungle and/or during rotations. So I still ward even as mid?
Yes. Always ward, because if you can see shit and the opponent can't, you win most of the time. best ward spots are the river bushes(ones in the middle of the river, usually pink if possible), and green ward their wraith area.
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On September 01 2014 02:43 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 02:35 krndandaman wrote:On September 01 2014 02:21 docvoc wrote:
hey guys I'm wondering, I got to Plat V this summer from Silver V, and I wanna try to make the jump to Diamond V this coming winter break, but I don't wanna get rusty while not playing during the college semester. I can't play during College because its too much of a distraction, even though I only played a game or two a day in the summer for the most part. I'd rather focus on other kinds of fun, plus possible pledgeship, and other thin?s like, for instance, academics lol. So is there any way of becoming less rusty over time so I can still keep improving from the spot I left off on? you should know that all things, including league and academics, require time and effort. so I'm guessing you won't play more than 5 games a week- that's not really enough to improve a full tier but should be enough to stay relatively the same. For me playing only 1 or 2 games a week was enough to stay in plat. Seeing how going up a tier seems kinda low on your priority list, it's only expected that you probably won't improve in it. @torte push your lane and then help your jungler. roam together and take control of the enemy jungle through deep wards and invading with your jungler. perhaps go for a 3v1 dive top, force drag, etc. Vision helps you to keep track of the enemy jungler so you can force objectives and make plays. You remove the enemy jungler from the equation by doing this, and the enemy mid by pushing your lane and forcing him to farm. What do I do if I'm losing mid? Like this game I just lost mid hard as I was ganked twice by Rengar and he just beat me overall (Malzahar). Do I stay in the lane and eventually take his tower or try my hand at something else?
You can't follow because you'll die, so what you need to do is ward and protect your team members from dying, especially if they're ahead and can still potentially carry the game.
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On September 01 2014 02:44 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 02:40 Torte de Lini wrote:On September 01 2014 02:28 Alaric wrote:
Depends. Usually if you're ahead (and your lanes aren't behind) you can easily group up and either force dragons, or the rest of the outer turrets ring. After that it's mostly controlling objectives (buffs, dragon, baron) and warding their side of the map so you can catch them in the jungle and/or during rotations. So I still ward even as mid? Yes. Always ward, because if you can see shit and the opponent can't, you win most of the time. best ward spots are the river bushes(ones in the middle of the river, usually pink if possible), and green ward their wraith area.
What does the trinket upgrade do, its the only thing I can't differentiate. Do I buy that or individual wards?
On September 01 2014 02:46 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 02:43 Torte de Lini wrote:On September 01 2014 02:35 krndandaman wrote:On September 01 2014 02:21 docvoc wrote:
hey guys I'm wondering, I got to Plat V this summer from Silver V, and I wanna try to make the jump to Diamond V this coming winter break, but I don't wanna get rusty while not playing during the college semester. I can't play during College because its too much of a distraction, even though I only played a game or two a day in the summer for the most part. I'd rather focus on other kinds of fun, plus possible pledgeship, and other thin?s like, for instance, academics lol. So is there any way of becoming less rusty over time so I can still keep improving from the spot I left off on? you should know that all things, including league and academics, require time and effort. so I'm guessing you won't play more than 5 games a week- that's not really enough to improve a full tier but should be enough to stay relatively the same. For me playing only 1 or 2 games a week was enough to stay in plat. Seeing how going up a tier seems kinda low on your priority list, it's only expected that you probably won't improve in it. @torte push your lane and then help your jungler. roam together and take control of the enemy jungle through deep wards and invading with your jungler. perhaps go for a 3v1 dive top, force drag, etc. Vision helps you to keep track of the enemy jungler so you can force objectives and make plays. You remove the enemy jungler from the equation by doing this, and the enemy mid by pushing your lane and forcing him to farm. What do I do if I'm losing mid? Like this game I just lost mid hard as I was ganked twice by Rengar and he just beat me overall (Malzahar). Do I stay in the lane and eventually take his tower or try my hand at something else? You can't follow because you'll die, so what you need to do is ward and protect your team members from dying, especially if they're ahead and can still potentially carry the game.
So I give up the lane. I thought with Orianna, I want to farm big items before contributing.
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On September 01 2014 02:48 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 02:44 Amui wrote:On September 01 2014 02:40 Torte de Lini wrote:On September 01 2014 02:28 Alaric wrote:
Depends. Usually if you're ahead (and your lanes aren't behind) you can easily group up and either force dragons, or the rest of the outer turrets ring. After that it's mostly controlling objectives (buffs, dragon, baron) and warding their side of the map so you can catch them in the jungle and/or during rotations. So I still ward even as mid? Yes. Always ward, because if you can see shit and the opponent can't, you win most of the time. best ward spots are the river bushes(ones in the middle of the river, usually pink if possible), and green ward their wraith area. What does the trinket upgrade do, its the only thing I can't differentiate. Do I buy that or individual wards? Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 02:46 Amui wrote:On September 01 2014 02:43 Torte de Lini wrote:On September 01 2014 02:35 krndandaman wrote:On September 01 2014 02:21 docvoc wrote:
hey guys I'm wondering, I got to Plat V this summer from Silver V, and I wanna try to make the jump to Diamond V this coming winter break, but I don't wanna get rusty while not playing during the college semester. I can't play during College because its too much of a distraction, even though I only played a game or two a day in the summer for the most part. I'd rather focus on other kinds of fun, plus possible pledgeship, and other thin?s like, for instance, academics lol. So is there any way of becoming less rusty over time so I can still keep improving from the spot I left off on? you should know that all things, including league and academics, require time and effort. so I'm guessing you won't play more than 5 games a week- that's not really enough to improve a full tier but should be enough to stay relatively the same. For me playing only 1 or 2 games a week was enough to stay in plat. Seeing how going up a tier seems kinda low on your priority list, it's only expected that you probably won't improve in it. @torte push your lane and then help your jungler. roam together and take control of the enemy jungle through deep wards and invading with your jungler. perhaps go for a 3v1 dive top, force drag, etc. Vision helps you to keep track of the enemy jungler so you can force objectives and make plays. You remove the enemy jungler from the equation by doing this, and the enemy mid by pushing your lane and forcing him to farm. What do I do if I'm losing mid? Like this game I just lost mid hard as I was ganked twice by Rengar and he just beat me overall (Malzahar). Do I stay in the lane and eventually take his tower or try my hand at something else? You can't follow because you'll die, so what you need to do is ward and protect your team members from dying, especially if they're ahead and can still potentially carry the game. So I give up the lane. I thought with Orianna, I want to farm big items before contributing.
buy a green and pink ward on your first back and switch your trinket to sweeper to deny opponent's wards (upgrade isn't really worth getting as mid for a long long time)
with ori if you are behind you just farm really hard because you scale very well and farm very safely and quickly, but dont be afraid to follow because you can really turn fights around with her
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You really don't have to do the whole sweeper thing. That's more at higher levels of play. Just keep the Yellow one and constantly ward.
On September 01 2014 02:48 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 02:44 Amui wrote:On September 01 2014 02:40 Torte de Lini wrote:On September 01 2014 02:28 Alaric wrote:
Depends. Usually if you're ahead (and your lanes aren't behind) you can easily group up and either force dragons, or the rest of the outer turrets ring. After that it's mostly controlling objectives (buffs, dragon, baron) and warding their side of the map so you can catch them in the jungle and/or during rotations. So I still ward even as mid? Yes. Always ward, because if you can see shit and the opponent can't, you win most of the time. best ward spots are the river bushes(ones in the middle of the river, usually pink if possible), and green ward their wraith area. What does the trinket upgrade do, its the only thing I can't differentiate. Do I buy that or individual wards? Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 02:46 Amui wrote:On September 01 2014 02:43 Torte de Lini wrote:On September 01 2014 02:35 krndandaman wrote:On September 01 2014 02:21 docvoc wrote:
hey guys I'm wondering, I got to Plat V this summer from Silver V, and I wanna try to make the jump to Diamond V this coming winter break, but I don't wanna get rusty while not playing during the college semester. I can't play during College because its too much of a distraction, even though I only played a game or two a day in the summer for the most part. I'd rather focus on other kinds of fun, plus possible pledgeship, and other thin?s like, for instance, academics lol. So is there any way of becoming less rusty over time so I can still keep improving from the spot I left off on? you should know that all things, including league and academics, require time and effort. so I'm guessing you won't play more than 5 games a week- that's not really enough to improve a full tier but should be enough to stay relatively the same. For me playing only 1 or 2 games a week was enough to stay in plat. Seeing how going up a tier seems kinda low on your priority list, it's only expected that you probably won't improve in it. @torte push your lane and then help your jungler. roam together and take control of the enemy jungle through deep wards and invading with your jungler. perhaps go for a 3v1 dive top, force drag, etc. Vision helps you to keep track of the enemy jungler so you can force objectives and make plays. You remove the enemy jungler from the equation by doing this, and the enemy mid by pushing your lane and forcing him to farm. What do I do if I'm losing mid? Like this game I just lost mid hard as I was ganked twice by Rengar and he just beat me overall (Malzahar). Do I stay in the lane and eventually take his tower or try my hand at something else? You can't follow because you'll die, so what you need to do is ward and protect your team members from dying, especially if they're ahead and can still potentially carry the game. So I give up the lane. I thought with Orianna, I want to farm big items before contributing.
You have an AoE slow, AoE disable, AoE speed up and a Shield that gives resists too. Ori has huge utility so it's not just about afk farming big items then "carrying".
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no need to practice bad habits just because you aren't quite there yet.
a good rule of thumb is to get sweeper once laning is over if you are ahead. If behind keep the trinket.
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On September 01 2014 02:40 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 02:28 Alaric wrote:
Depends. Usually if you're ahead (and your lanes aren't behind) you can easily group up and either force dragons, or the rest of the outer turrets ring. After that it's mostly controlling objectives (buffs, dragon, baron) and warding their side of the map so you can catch them in the jungle and/or during rotations. So I still ward even as mid?
Only if you want to be a bitch. Warding slows down your item progression and while it can make trivial things like short term winrate/rank go up, it severely hampers your own gold income, just like not taxing jungle/lanes/securing kills which can make important things like the games you snowball harder to come by.
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Once you have gold for wards you (ideally first back as mid) you want to swap to sweeper. Although the lower your Mmr the less useful sweeper is so try it a couple times and judge for yourself
I assume the question comes because you are a Dota player, best explanation is ward limit is done by player instead of by team. So the team with more people contributing to vision has a huge information advantage
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