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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 31 2014 03:36 GMT
#601
its a new mechanic, a red confirmed so. read my previous post for a potential reason why.
I come in for the scraps
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 31 2014 03:54 GMT
#602
So, ranked was disabled so I tried to play some team builder.... Vayne happened to be free and ADC was needed, so I thought why not?

Oh man, this game reminded me once again why there are so many Vayne mains despite her terribad win rate. This champion feels absolutely INCREDIBLE to play

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if she is ahead


The amount of outplay potential with her is immense

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but only matters if she is ahead


And most importantly, she is FUN to play

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if she is ahead


At the end of the day, it was fun because my opponents were terrible and I was able to win the lane with ease.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 31 2014 04:33 GMT
#603
Vayne works fine if she's a little behind too. The BotRK timing is so insanely powerful and early, you can still duel really well even if you're behind.
liftlift > tsm
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
August 31 2014 04:38 GMT
#604
is there a thread to see if anyoen wants to be a duo parnter? im bronze
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 31 2014 04:38 GMT
#605
Sure, but it's really amusing how many people play her despite her terrible win rate. I can see using her to bash baddies, but I would not be willing to pull her out in ranked any time soon.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
karelen
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2407 Posts
August 31 2014 04:46 GMT
#606
As a support main I get sad everytime someone locks Vayne. She's the Riven of botlane, huge egos that are prone to afk/trolling/toxic behavior if they don't get fed. And god save you if you aren't there 24/7 to babysit them until they reach beastmode.
zzzzzz
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 31 2014 04:52 GMT
#607
On August 31 2014 13:46 karelen wrote:
As a support main I get sad everytime someone locks Vayne. She's the Riven of botlane, huge egos that are prone to afk/trolling/toxic behavior if they don't get fed. And god save you if you aren't there 24/7 to babysit them until they reach beastmode.

"I'm going to ward tribrush"

-2 seconds later-

An ally has been slain!
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
August 31 2014 05:04 GMT
#608
On August 31 2014 13:46 karelen wrote:
As a support main I get sad everytime someone locks Vayne. She's the Riven of botlane, huge egos that are prone to afk/trolling/toxic behavior if they don't get fed. And god save you if you aren't there 24/7 to babysit them until they reach beastmode.


This is sad but true I feel the same way about Akali players. If you don't make an effort to let them have a kill when you gank then you will face the rage of a thousand suns.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
August 31 2014 05:08 GMT
#609
On August 31 2014 14:04 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 13:46 karelen wrote:
As a support main I get sad everytime someone locks Vayne. She's the Riven of botlane, huge egos that are prone to afk/trolling/toxic behavior if they don't get fed. And god save you if you aren't there 24/7 to babysit them until they reach beastmode.


This is sad but true I feel the same way about Akali players. If you don't make an effort to let them have a kill when you gank then you will face the rage of a thousand suns.


I believe this also applies to Katarina players and Fiora mids as well.
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
August 31 2014 05:29 GMT
#610
I tryyyy to be nice and fill but when its my pick and say "whats left?" suddently chat becomes quieter than a funeral.
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 05:40:14
August 31 2014 05:36 GMT
#611
On August 31 2014 13:38 Sufficiency wrote:
Sure, but it's really amusing how many people play her despite her terrible win rate. I can see using her to bash baddies, but I would not be willing to pull her out in ranked any time soon.

It is cait that gets it from me. Because 90% of the time cait players

A)are Not AD mains and thus don't know how to play cait against anyone but vayne

Or

B) don't understand caits win condition.

Vayne, I feel like, always gives me a chance to win the lane or game by good play and peel. But with cait I have to rely entirely on the cait player understanding what needs to happen in the overall scope of the game with regards to early pressure and pushing. Because otherwise the game will get to endgame and then the other team can win without trying to kill the AD.

I exemplify this by a conversation with some random cait player who lost to me in low Plat.

Cait: well I won lane at least
Me: no you didn't
Cait: Yes I did I had more CS than you
Me: 10 more CS and we took your tower first and you were playing against trist...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 31 2014 06:10 GMT
#612
Vayne's win condition in solo queue: i hope the enemy team are a bunch of chucklefucks and drag this game out to the 50 minute mark.
liftlift > tsm
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 31 2014 06:37 GMT
#613
So, I hate top lane and don't know how to play top lane, and in this recent patch have a near 0% win rate in top lane.

Who is a braindead top laner that I can learn to play that's strong in most matchups these days?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 31 2014 06:38 GMT
#614
On August 31 2014 15:37 Ketara wrote:
So, I hate top lane and don't know how to play top lane, and in this recent patch have a near 0% win rate in top lane.

Who is a braindead top laner that I can learn to play that's strong in most matchups these days?

Alistar

Lulu

Ryze

Mundo
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
August 31 2014 06:41 GMT
#615
On August 31 2014 15:37 Ketara wrote:
So, I hate top lane and don't know how to play top lane, and in this recent patch have a near 0% win rate in top lane.

Who is a braindead top laner that I can learn to play that's strong in most matchups these days?

Don't pick to be strong in matchups. You don't have time to learn them anyway. Pick to be useful even if you fail. I like Mundo and Singed a lot because even if you lose lane you can be Mundo come late game.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 31 2014 06:42 GMT
#616
Garen. Pick Garen.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 31 2014 06:58 GMT
#617
Mundo. No matter what the match up, you can always at least farm with cleavers and scale really well.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 31 2014 07:32 GMT
#618
real man go ryze dumpster anyone lose to no one draw jungler mid aggro all to you 3v1 them under your tower while your autistic team finally learns that hitting buildings leads to wins
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
August 31 2014 07:45 GMT
#619
On August 31 2014 16:32 FinestHour wrote:
real man go ryze dumpster anyone lose to no one draw jungler mid aggro all to you 3v1 them under your tower while your autistic team finally learns that hitting buildings leads to wins


There you go, the secret to LoL.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 31 2014 08:05 GMT
#620
Pretty sure the actual secret is spin to win...
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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