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ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 18:30:46
August 30 2014 18:28 GMT
#561
On August 31 2014 00:08 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm ok with not roaming, I just like tanky strong heroes that are just prevailing in fights, hence alistar (:


Nemireck said it earlier, and I believe he is right about Annie. It might be a good champion for you to try out. I think Annie is deceptively good for beginners. She is very cheap(450 ip cost), and you can potentially play her as both mid and support.

I don't recommend Annie support at the moment since there are quite a few supports who overshadow her by a lot. Basically, for annie support's early laning, you keep your stun charged(or charge it during the spell animation), and harass/position that way.

In terms of mid lane, it also works in a similar way. You have a very good early game for the most part, and against most champions. By the time you are level 6, you can basically kill most mid lane champions who are over extended.

For both roles in the late game, her positioning is a key factor. You must position yourself properly and try to land good ults. With one rotation of her skill set, you can usually burst down a low health champion.

Also, nice to see you posting in here after all. Enjoy!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 18:41:34
August 30 2014 18:39 GMT
#562
Annie is the de facto mid I recommend if you want to win without investing a lot of time into playing/improving. Pretty much the political opposite of Or I in that sense

I mean that in the "hardcore" sense if you aren't playing games daily (which the description suggests) your Annie will be better than your Ori. Though i know that advice was previously rejected.
Carrilord has arrived.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 19:09:41
August 30 2014 19:08 GMT
#563
On August 31 2014 03:39 Slusher wrote:
Annie is the de facto mid I recommend if you want to win without investing a lot of time into playing/improving. Pretty much the political opposite of Or I in that sense

I mean that in the "hardcore" sense if you aren't playing games daily (which the description suggests) your Annie will be better than your Ori. Though i know that advice was previously rejected.


I don't understand why you say this. It's selling short how versatile a good annie can be, and how flexible she can be in a team comp. You don't get good with her without spending time with her positioning and movement. I really dislike this commentary especially when you are speaking to a newer LoL player.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 30 2014 19:15 GMT
#564
She also trains a different mindset. Annie can't just farm safely like Ori, and she's worse versus pushers (Ori isn't hard to shove for most pushers). She's also much more of an initiator whereas Orianna has good follow-up too, disengage, etc.
Annie is more all-in, lacks range, and is screwed by Banshee's Veils, basically. On the other hand, she's also much stronger at roaming and the impact of her ult early on is bigger too (better base damage, Tibbers' burn is more significant and you can't exactly stay and tank his autos, etc.), so you've got incentive to try and roam, make plays in the other lanes to get them ahead, fight dragons and skirmishes, coordinate with your jungle for ganks, etc. (Tibbers is also pretty good at zoning lone enemies from towers you want to finish off) and close the game out asap before the enemy team gets BVs/to resilient for your initial burst/get more dangerous on long range members you won't reach with Flash-ult initiations/etc.

I think it's interesting to have different champs in one's pool for the sake of learning (although it may be better to focus on a single one if you just want to improve your ranking), even Garen brought interesting perspectives and reflections on my way of playing when I used him a bunch on my smurf just because his dynamics and timings (and role) aren't the same as Jax/Pantheon/Irelia.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6178 Posts
August 30 2014 19:16 GMT
#565
god dam, once again, the Riot server explode...
n_n
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 30 2014 19:18 GMT
#566
what the fucking fuck, easy game and then our whole team dcs but other team stays in....they just push and win. what the fuck is this bullshit
I come in for the scraps
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 30 2014 19:34 GMT
#567
Dem servers. And on double IP weekend. Riot pls.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
August 30 2014 19:42 GMT
#568
I just read the PBE update. Jeez, suddenly everyone is from Shurima. It's like the Freljord event but worse. I mean I don't really know anybody who really got into the lore but it can't be easy to do that when the characters keep changing who the crap they are.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 30 2014 19:44 GMT
#569
On August 31 2014 04:42 phyvo wrote:
I just read the PBE update. Jeez, suddenly everyone is from Shurima. It's like the Freljord event but worse. I mean I don't really know anybody who really got into the lore but it can't be easy to do that when the characters keep changing who the crap they are.


What do you mean, anivia was always garen's sister from the freljord who fought shyvanna for control of hyrule. #Riot2016
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 30 2014 19:57 GMT
#570
Na, Rammus and Amumu always came from Shurima, for example. Nasus and Renekton were from "an outside world" where there were 2 casts of people, "normal" ones (we don't know anything about them) and the other to which they belonged (animalistic ones, demigod-like powers). Having them from Shurima consolidates LoL's lore.
Taric, Malphite still come from another world for example (Anivia used to until she was retconned to Freljord).

Sivir was made into "a mercenary coming from Shurima" in her rework and VU (before that she was just a mercenary; they toned down her greediness/materialism/amoralism hard though, and removed the silly bit about Noxian assassins), and her lore hinted at being sent on a tomb raid by Cassiopeia (where they probably found Renekton/Nasus/Xerath and something else, according to changes to champions' relations).
Xerath came from Shurima, but he wasn't an "ascended" or anything like that, just a mage particularly engrossed in magic, who wanted to be as close to pure magic as possible just for the sheer possibilities it'd open, which was kinda lost when he "succeeded" and became entitled by his power. Afraid of it (and of Xerath's switch in perception, since he was so beyond mere humans) his people locked him in his sarcophagus. After centuries (and the fall of his civilisation), the power in the seal subsided and Xerath managed to free himself.

Biggest changes are Skarner being from Shurima and not Kalamanda anymore (apart from the Dominion map and Swain being High General Riot pretty much doesn't give a single shit about all that's around Kalamanda though), and the span going from "centuries" to "millenia" (well it should, because of the whole "rune wars" background that spawned the institute and the league to begin with, but Riot prob doesn't give a shit about that part either).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
August 30 2014 19:58 GMT
#571
Last 2 games in placement series loss prevented, still count as loss, gg.

The final game was literally 2v5 because nobody on my team could connect, and it was 3v0 for the first 8 minutes.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 30 2014 20:01 GMT
#572
On August 31 2014 04:44 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 04:42 phyvo wrote:
I just read the PBE update. Jeez, suddenly everyone is from Shurima. It's like the Freljord event but worse. I mean I don't really know anybody who really got into the lore but it can't be easy to do that when the characters keep changing who the crap they are.


What do you mean, anivia was always garen's sister from the freljord who fought shyvanna for control of hyrule. #Riot2016

Demacia has always been at war with Eurasiathe Frejlord.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 30 2014 20:09 GMT
#573
On August 31 2014 04:58 DiracMonopole wrote:
Last 2 games in placement series loss prevented, still count as loss, gg.

The final game was literally 2v5 because nobody on my team could connect, and it was 3v0 for the first 8 minutes.


Yeah, my last few games same thing.

I didn't even get loss prevented on one of them.

o.o
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 30 2014 20:30 GMT
#574
On August 31 2014 04:08 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 03:39 Slusher wrote:
Annie is the de facto mid I recommend if you want to win without investing a lot of time into playing/improving. Pretty much the political opposite of Or I in that sense

I mean that in the "hardcore" sense if you aren't playing games daily (which the description suggests) your Annie will be better than your Ori. Though i know that advice was previously rejected.


I don't understand why you say this. It's selling short how versatile a good annie can be, and how flexible she can be in a team comp. You don't get good with her without spending time with her positioning and movement. I really dislike this commentary especially when you are speaking to a newer LoL player.


well I mean that is true of even the skill floor king, Ziggs, The Original poster said he was trying to get better at league, while also trying to improve at 5-6 other games, Annie is a champion who has all the tools to win the lane phase, both for her lane and for other lanes. The most basic way to win a game of league is to win more lanes than the opposing team wins and for that reason I think getting good at Annie is a great mid for people who are looking to get better. Ofc if you put time into any champion it will be better than less time, but if you have less time why not pick a champion that has the tools to focus on the most basic win condition in league of legends.
Carrilord has arrived.
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
August 30 2014 21:44 GMT
#575
RIP promotion series.

Why are riot even remodeling the lore? They removed it from the client so....who cares?
TzaTzers
Profile Joined April 2009
United States589 Posts
August 30 2014 21:48 GMT
#576
I feel like Riot is purposely killing the servers so we can watch LCS...
"Why did the colossus fall over? because he was imbalanced..."
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 30 2014 22:23 GMT
#577
On August 31 2014 06:48 TzaTzers wrote:
I feel like Riot is purposely killing the servers so we can watch LCS...


/tinfoilhat
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 30 2014 22:41 GMT
#578
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwUcP-cIYAEvOM8.png

Haha
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 30 2014 22:46 GMT
#579
Sheep = PJSalty

No wonder TSM never tried him out
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
August 30 2014 22:52 GMT
#580
"Regi didn't try me for supp because I was mean to dyrus in soloq once" PFFFFF lol
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
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