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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 28 2014 11:39 GMT
#341
the biggest knock against monte's coaching is that every week he's been saying things like "I wouldn't have picked X" or "i wouldn't play this way with this team" or "i told them so before but they didn't listen"

dude if they aren't listening to your coaching, then you are coaching poorly. yes you can't force people to listen to you, but if you don't have any effect on the team, you aren't helping at all.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 28 2014 11:40 GMT
#342
On August 28 2014 08:25 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 22:18 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 27 2014 21:05 GolemMadness wrote:
On August 27 2014 20:58 Sufficiency wrote:
Basically, the Tribunal was a failure. Not a surprise.


How is this the conclusion you're drawing from this discussion...?


Why do you think Riot disabled the Tribunal to make an entirely new system?


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Actually, to clarify a few things: Tribunal wasn't broken. We had to take it down for some pretty immense upgrades, such as retooling the algorithms entirely to include machine learning, to add positive cases for review, and to make the system globally viable in every language around the world--that's a lot of work.

What we meant by diminishing returns was, the system was getting so accurate that continuing to work on accuracy was hitting diminishing returns. Instead, by using machine learning, we can also focus on improving how the Tribunal handles the 'severity' of cases and improving the speed of the system.

We'll be bringing the system back globally, which is a huge goal for us because for awhile only servers like NA/EU benefited from the system.


That's what Riot said, right? If the system is so accurate, there is no need to spend money to develop even newer features and abandoning the current system. It makes no sense whatsoever.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 28 2014 11:46 GMT
#343
I wonder how korea is going to react to tribunal. something tells me they will hate it or riot korea just won't implement it at all.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 28 2014 13:21 GMT
#344
http://ticket.interpark.com/Global/Play/Goods/GoodsInfo.asp?GoodsCode=14008893&lang=en


ThaAhri figure.... we need to buy one for Scip.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
August 28 2014 13:49 GMT
#345
On August 28 2014 22:21 Sufficiency wrote:
http://ticket.interpark.com/Global/Play/Goods/GoodsInfo.asp?GoodsCode=14008893&lang=en


ThaAhri figure.... we need to buy one for Scip.


Omg I want that.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 28 2014 14:25 GMT
#346
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 28 2014 14:27 GMT
#347
On August 28 2014 23:25 krndandaman wrote:
I just tried searching my summoner name on google and found a site called leagueofgraphs where it broke down what roles I played and winrates with them.

Was pretty surprised to see mid/adc be 45% winrates with top/support between 50-55 and jungle at 57% as my highest. The amount played is pretty evenly spread out so I'm thinking I should totally ignore mid/adc now and play more jungle and have top/support as backup. Might help out others who aren't really sure what their strengths are.

Seeing how my weakest roles statistically are mid/adc, my strength probably comes from objective control and my weakness is probably mechanics and positioning.

Though I'm not sure how it judges if you played what role or not since many champions can play many roles. Pretty cool stuff though nonetheless

Role WinRate Played
Jungler 51.4% 212
Top Lane 46.2% 171
Middle Lane 53.5% 170
Support 50.9% 169
AD Carry 47.4% 95

yeah.... my top/adc suck balls, that's true.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 14:30:15
August 28 2014 14:29 GMT
#348
Inb4 I'm a trash support and super good mid/top because I almost only play Lulu there and it doesn't know how to handle it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 14:35:20
August 28 2014 14:31 GMT
#349
looking used to (probably still does) do that, and ti was really bad at deciphering what role you played in any given game

ok yea: this sight has every single solo lane game I've played recently listed as mid because I've been on an ap top kick.
Carrilord has arrived.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 14:38:24
August 28 2014 14:34 GMT
#350
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Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 14:42:45
August 28 2014 14:42 GMT
#351
On August 28 2014 20:39 PrinceXizor wrote:
the biggest knock against monte's coaching is that every week he's been saying things like "I wouldn't have picked X" or "i wouldn't play this way with this team" or "i told them so before but they didn't listen"

dude if they aren't listening to your coaching, then you are coaching poorly. yes you can't force people to listen to you, but if you don't have any effect on the team, you aren't helping at all.


to be fair to monte, i dont think there are many people in the industry that could make doublelift listen, respect and take onboard an opinion or idea.

the real issue with the western lol scene is the severe lack of coaches who are going to be respected by the players themselves, are willing to coach and are any good at coaching. Korea has the whole cultural respect yer elders thing going on so they get a pass on some of those points but the West has a tiny pool of people that can fill all three of those bulletpoints.

Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
August 28 2014 15:30 GMT
#352
Role WinRate Played
Middle Lane 61.2% 49
Support 57.8% 45
AD Carry 53.3% 45
Top Lane 62.9% 35
Jungler 27.3% 11

Sounds about right
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Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 28 2014 15:43 GMT
#353
Sup 57.1% 301 games
Mid 55.6% 45 games
Top 52.5% 40 games
Jung 48.7% 39 games
ADC 33.3% 6 games

Well, technically I only played one solo ranked game with adc, and that's a win with Urgot! But other than that, I guess the stats are right, I only played a few Lulu top and mid.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
August 28 2014 15:44 GMT
#354
Hmm Interesting website.

AD Carry 52.1% 71
Middle Lane 56.5% 23
Top Lane 50% 22
Support 71.4% 21
Jungler 47.1% 17

Sounds fair, although apparently I've won 8 of my last 9 ranked games...
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 15:59:33
August 28 2014 15:58 GMT
#355
Jungler 50% 140
Support 58.8% 51
Top Lane 61.1% 36
Middle Lane 48.5% 33
AD Carry 100% 2

^ ADC sux. Got hard carried both games

Played like 2 games with teut but apparently i often play with him wut.
Useless wet fish.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 28 2014 16:16 GMT
#356
I cant believe how much khazix is back now. hes in every D1 game ever and goes legendary every game zz. goes to show just how ridiculous he used to be with that damage reduction.
I come in for the scraps
captharlock
Profile Joined September 2010
United States223 Posts
August 28 2014 16:18 GMT
#357
Support 51.2% 86
Top Lane 33.3% 6
Jungler 50% 4
AD Carry 33.3% 3
Middle Lane 0% 2

Haven't really played a lot of ranked this season. Although the numbers would probably be the same.

For support time jesus aka Ziliean how would you build him outside of Frost Queen's Claim and Sightstone?
Baneslayer Angel could be hungover, slightly blind, and texting while flying and still win the game
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 28 2014 16:21 GMT
#358
You guys are pretty well rounded in the roles you do play.

Role WinRate Played
Top Lane 55.6% 54
Jungler 42.5% 40
AD Carry 46.2% 13
Middle Lane 69.2% 13
Support 100% 3

I suck at my main roles lol.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 28 2014 16:41 GMT
#359
How did you guys calculate these numbers?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
captharlock
Profile Joined September 2010
United States223 Posts
August 28 2014 16:43 GMT
#360
it is a site called league of graphs
Baneslayer Angel could be hungover, slightly blind, and texting while flying and still win the game
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