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Updated TL LoL policy in regards to the use of "lomo"

In regards to theorycrafting and hyperbole, please have firsthand experience of the scenario before giving your input

Future of TL LoL, post Liquid`Dota standalone site
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 12:30:08
May 16 2014 12:29 GMT
#1281
You have to bare in mind this is the guy who will openly call everyone a retard / faggot / younameititsonthislist wherever ive seen him. Maybe he doesn't flame people for being bad exactly.

Maybe he's just equally angry at everyone for no reason ?

:D Im sorry teut. I actually don't care about this debate.
Useless wet fish.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
May 16 2014 12:30 GMT
#1282
i only flame people i know because they understand that I love them really
never flame in solo queue
aka Teutonica
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 16 2014 12:33 GMT
#1283
No homo.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 12:38:35
May 16 2014 12:37 GMT
#1284
On May 16 2014 21:33 Alaric wrote:
No homo.


Warn him he typo'd lom...nothing, nothing at all.

But in general, the mindset of trying to improve is exactly what teut explains, its just near impossibru to always have that mindset.
Useless wet fish.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
May 16 2014 12:43 GMT
#1285
I never get the difference between playing to improve and playing to win. Improving your own play is the number 1 factor in increasing your winrate imo, so why do people always say they are two completely different things?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 12:50:44
May 16 2014 12:49 GMT
#1286
Because when your only goal is to win and you're robbed of that goal your brains natural response is to lash out and find out who's responsible and takes the simplest answer which is whichever teammate you think played the worst and then that happening constantly leads to frustration

I'm not sure why it does that though
maybe its a evolutionary thing to lead you to find competent companions or some thing
aka Teutonica
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
May 16 2014 12:53 GMT
#1287
On May 16 2014 21:49 Slayer91 wrote:
Because when your only goal is to win and you're robbed of that goal your brains natural response is to lash out and find out who's responsible and takes the simplest answer which is whichever teammate you think played the worst and then that happening constantly leads to frustration

I'm not sure why it does that though
maybe its a evolutionary thing to lead you to find competent companions or some thing

Meh, it might just be my brain being weird but I don't have that response all that much. Might also be that I've played with too many ragers so I'm immune now?
I mean sure I'm annoyed if I have a 0/11/2 mid but I still made mistakes myself as well obviously.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
May 16 2014 12:55 GMT
#1288
its because you're not in the mindset that you're only focused winning being the end result
aka Teutonica
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 13:53:58
May 16 2014 13:53 GMT
#1289
From what I understand, the problem is when you ONLY want to win and let frustration get into your head. And develop mindets like "I need to play hard carry champions and win my lane hard because it's the only way to win games with these idiots" or "I just want to farm this wave, I just want to get this turret, I just want to kill this champion" and otherwise tunnel vision. That's the problem for me anyway - I lose faith in my teammates, I tunnel-vision into simple ways of winning and ignore any feedback until I'm confident in my own abilities and that I understand how League works. Isn't this basically what tilting is?

@edit: I started writing this before the last 5 posts
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 16 2014 13:54 GMT
#1290
--- Nuked ---
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
May 16 2014 13:56 GMT
#1291
would just end up dick measuring on who has a girlfriend and who has a better job instead of skills at vidya games
aka Teutonica
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 13:59:28
May 16 2014 13:57 GMT
#1292
On May 16 2014 22:54 JimmiC wrote:
I so wish that Leauge had a seniors division for people over 25 or something. I would hope it would be less toxic and less emo crap (early GG's and "i'm done" wussy bullshit). But even if it didn't I could just laugh at these adults freaking out over a video game and saying im done, which is basically, im taking my ball and going home because things aren't going perfect. So I would enjoy that.

I agree 100%. Few phrases make my blood boil like "im done". Maybe "stop feeding noob".

Related though not directly ontopic:

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What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Ballsdeep or afk
Profile Joined November 2013
Great Britain31 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 14:02:09
May 16 2014 14:01 GMT
#1293
I think drophacking is getting a bit extreme when low level teambuilder games are being drophacked..... by low level i mean mostly 20's and two level 30's on there team.

guess my jungle fizz real terror
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 16 2014 14:40 GMT
#1294
On May 16 2014 15:57 Ryuu314 wrote:
Shit like item builds and jungle paths are stuff that helps you play better, but on a very superficial level that ultimately won't help you win the game

I don't think it's that they don't help you win the game. They do help immensely, but those things are so situational and dependent on your core understanding of the game that most players who complain about these things are not in a position to assess how right or wrong their teammates are because they don't have that core understanding yet.

Many players treat "learning" item builds and jungle paths as if it's something you learn once and that's it. The only time that should ever be the mentality is if you're pre-30, and don't know all the items or are jungling for like the first time. If you have like 3k gold and are choosing your next major item, what item you choose is largely dependent on your understanding of how the next 10/15/20 minutes of the game will play out. That's not something that a Silver player can miraculously understand while being poor at every other aspect of the game, because that level of predictive assessment requires a very complex and high-level understanding of the game. Even up to the highest levels, players don't have a perfect assessment on what the game state is going to look like 15 minutes into the future. As such, your understanding of item selection is going to be evolving with the rest of your understanding of the game, and a low-level player on the whole understands so little that their assessment of items is for all intents and purposes meaningless.
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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
May 16 2014 15:48 GMT
#1295
Recommended item build yo.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 16 2014 15:50 GMT
#1296
On May 17 2014 00:48 canikizu wrote:
Recommended item build yo.

if people took those seriously ap lulu wouldn't even be a thing
Bronze player stuck in platinum
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 15:54:28
May 16 2014 15:54 GMT
#1297
Maybe people just troll around and go ap lulu and got ohshitson moment.
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
May 16 2014 16:11 GMT
#1298
I think another part of playing to win versus playing to improve is that when it is clear you are going to lose you don't just give up and derp around/rage. You still try to work on your cs mechanics, your teamfight positioning, your combos etc. Even just seeing what the winning team is building on their champs and analyzing how/why they are winning fights is a lot better than wasting your time thinking of how to best describe the sex you had with your feeding teammate's mom last night.
I got nothin'...
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
May 16 2014 16:14 GMT
#1299
On May 16 2014 23:40 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2014 15:57 Ryuu314 wrote:
Shit like item builds and jungle paths are stuff that helps you play better, but on a very superficial level that ultimately won't help you win the game

I don't think it's that they don't help you win the game. They do help immensely, but those things are so situational and dependent on your core understanding of the game that most players who complain about these things are not in a position to assess how right or wrong their teammates are because they don't have that core understanding yet.

Many players treat "learning" item builds and jungle paths as if it's something you learn once and that's it. The only time that should ever be the mentality is if you're pre-30, and don't know all the items or are jungling for like the first time. If you have like 3k gold and are choosing your next major item, what item you choose is largely dependent on your understanding of how the next 10/15/20 minutes of the game will play out. That's not something that a Silver player can miraculously understand while being poor at every other aspect of the game, because that level of predictive assessment requires a very complex and high-level understanding of the game. Even up to the highest levels, players don't have a perfect assessment on what the game state is going to look like 15 minutes into the future. As such, your understanding of item selection is going to be evolving with the rest of your understanding of the game, and a low-level player on the whole understands so little that their assessment of items is for all intents and purposes meaningless.

I have probably like 4 different builds tops for Evelynn and she's my most played champion
is there some great sea of depth I am missing
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
May 16 2014 16:24 GMT
#1300
You're missing the great sea of depth of mindgaming. You have to go AD Evelyn, estimate in 15min the enemy will build AD tank then you sell your stuff and switch to AP, then after 15min sell your stuff again and swith to tank Eve.
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