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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 20 2014 19:31 GMT
#701
On March 21 2014 04:26 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 03:16 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 21 2014 03:13 wussleeQ wrote:
jayce had terrible animations on release. nocturne, vayne and maybe graves to a slightly lesser extent were the biggest OP releases

even with his terrible animations (it's still pretty bad), his kit was stupidly broken, people just didn't notice how stupid op'd 15% of max hp + base magic dmg was in lane


I'm pretty convinced its because everyone insisted on building Triforce first. And then people were like wait... if I just build damage on Jayce, hooollly crap look at the damage.


I don’t think people all jumped on the triforce for Jayce. It was very clear from the beginning that BT was a decent item for him.

https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 20 2014 19:33 GMT
#702
On March 21 2014 04:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
Damn, Panth nerfs on the PBE, giving his ult the Noc treatment.
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/03/320-pbe-update.html

MF buffs seem nice.
It's your boy Guzma!
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
March 20 2014 19:36 GMT
#703
On March 21 2014 04:26 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 03:16 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 21 2014 03:13 wussleeQ wrote:
jayce had terrible animations on release. nocturne, vayne and maybe graves to a slightly lesser extent were the biggest OP releases

even with his terrible animations (it's still pretty bad), his kit was stupidly broken, people just didn't notice how stupid op'd 15% of max hp + base magic dmg was in lane


I'm pretty convinced its because everyone insisted on building Triforce first. And then people were like wait... if I just build damage on Jayce, hooollly crap look at the damage.

My memories of playing against early jayce were just tear/bruta into lw/bt into sad times
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
March 20 2014 19:38 GMT
#704
On March 21 2014 04:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 04:26 zer0das wrote:
On March 21 2014 03:16 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 21 2014 03:13 wussleeQ wrote:
jayce had terrible animations on release. nocturne, vayne and maybe graves to a slightly lesser extent were the biggest OP releases

even with his terrible animations (it's still pretty bad), his kit was stupidly broken, people just didn't notice how stupid op'd 15% of max hp + base magic dmg was in lane


I'm pretty convinced its because everyone insisted on building Triforce first. And then people were like wait... if I just build damage on Jayce, hooollly crap look at the damage.


I don’t think people all jumped on the triforce for Jayce. It was very clear from the beginning that BT was a decent item for him.


Well post animations fix it was entirely the melee hammer nuke that made him insane. He had virtually no counterplay with his E in top lane since he would knock you out of damage range while also nuking your face for huge amounts of magic damage.

Post E-nerf he was underplayed a bit as he had mana problems until people realized you could build Tear on him and wreck face while almost never going oom AND getting a Muramana before you reasonably should be able to.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 20 2014 19:39 GMT
#705
On March 21 2014 04:33 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 04:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
Damn, Panth nerfs on the PBE, giving his ult the Noc treatment.
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/03/320-pbe-update.html

MF buffs seem nice.


Pantheon got slammed super hard.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
March 20 2014 19:39 GMT
#706
Pretty excited for MF buffs, although 3s Q seems hilarious
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 19:42:01
March 20 2014 19:41 GMT
#707
On March 21 2014 04:39 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 04:33 Requizen wrote:
On March 21 2014 04:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
Damn, Panth nerfs on the PBE, giving his ult the Noc treatment.
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/03/320-pbe-update.html

MF buffs seem nice.


Pantheon got slammed super hard.

If those changes, especially the stun change, go through Panth will be unplayable. The last time Riot tried to lower his stun at early levels, they lowered it to 0.7 at level 1 and Panth was practically unplayable then. It's 0.5 this time around, which basically isn't even a stun. I mean, ffs Riven's W is a 0.75 second stun.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
March 20 2014 19:41 GMT
#708
the way i remember it his E was so strong that when jayce first came out people didn't even realize how absurd his gated Q was.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 20 2014 19:48 GMT
#709
On March 21 2014 04:41 chalice wrote:
the way i remember it his E was so strong that when jayce first came out people didn't even realize how absurd his gated Q was.

Release jayce was pretty much a bruiser, free stats on hammer form + absurd E damage meant that he was basically an absurdly powerful bruiser who happened to have a speed boost and poke as a bonus.
Glorious SEA doto
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 20 2014 20:00 GMT
#710
Way to complete gut Pantheon lol.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 20:07:33
March 20 2014 20:05 GMT
#711
Release Jayce was like release Ez people sucked so bad that they didn't see what he was stupidly good at because he was retarderly good at something else.

Panth nerfs are waaaay out of line. Hes not even that good right now that 1 of the nerfs would bring him into line with all the other champs.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 20:15:54
March 20 2014 20:15 GMT
#712
Those mf changes look ridiculous (in a good way) she's gunna fucking hurt. Her ulti is a nerf at the early levels I think. I'm not sure if I like they kept impure shot magic damage, especially considering they just removed the AP ratio on it, and they've been making more and more cohesive kits for champions.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 20 2014 20:20 GMT
#713
[image loading]
Dat range is sooooooo short
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 20 2014 20:21 GMT
#714
On March 21 2014 05:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
[image loading]
Dat range is sooooooo short



Lol Riot are you for rela?

Quick, post it on reddit and stir a shitstorm!
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
March 20 2014 20:21 GMT
#715
Release zyra was just dumb. Skillshot 200 speed faster than equivalents of morg/lux, and multitarget, free CDR etc. Darius I think was much more of a meta thing. He hard countered irelia(like 2 levels down still win duels countered post-6), and could dunk a lot of other popular picks.

Elise was probably even more overtuned than zyra, its just she was harder to play than the ewwqr one shot half the team of zyra.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
March 20 2014 20:21 GMT
#716
On March 21 2014 05:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
[image loading]
Dat range is sooooooo short


LOL OMG WAT THAT'S HILARIOUS

Why would you castrate the manliest Champion like that!?
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 20:24:40
March 20 2014 20:22 GMT
#717
she would be bonkers broken if she had more physical damage skills, even these buffs look pretty scary. not like she is garbage tier atm just has no escape. still does nutso damage.

I dont really like mf buffs because it just breeds more caitlyn picks which the game does not need atm. would like if they buffed champs that like actually need it and could bring something to the game. MF doesn't really bring anything interesting or relevant even if she is viable besides being yet another lane bully that you have to pick cait vs. yawn

lol @ that panth pic btw, can't say ill miss him
I come in for the scraps
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 20 2014 20:25 GMT
#718
Rank 1 not even worth taking anymore lol
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 20 2014 20:27 GMT
#719
Are they serious with that Panth ulti nerf? LOL. More like shit skyfall now.
liftlift > tsm
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 20 2014 20:28 GMT
#720
pantheon will go back to mid or top, you can use ur ult to get back to lane faster.
I come in for the scraps
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