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On March 21 2014 04:26 zer0das wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 03:16 wei2coolman wrote:On March 21 2014 03:13 wussleeQ wrote:
jayce had terrible animations on release. nocturne, vayne and maybe graves to a slightly lesser extent were the biggest OP releases even with his terrible animations (it's still pretty bad), his kit was stupidly broken, people just didn't notice how stupid op'd 15% of max hp + base magic dmg was in lane I'm pretty convinced its because everyone insisted on building Triforce first. And then people were like wait... if I just build damage on Jayce, hooollly crap look at the damage.
I don’t think people all jumped on the triforce for Jayce. It was very clear from the beginning that BT was a decent item for him.
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On March 21 2014 04:26 zer0das wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 03:16 wei2coolman wrote:On March 21 2014 03:13 wussleeQ wrote:
jayce had terrible animations on release. nocturne, vayne and maybe graves to a slightly lesser extent were the biggest OP releases even with his terrible animations (it's still pretty bad), his kit was stupidly broken, people just didn't notice how stupid op'd 15% of max hp + base magic dmg was in lane I'm pretty convinced its because everyone insisted on building Triforce first. And then people were like wait... if I just build damage on Jayce, hooollly crap look at the damage.
My memories of playing against early jayce were just tear/bruta into lw/bt into sad times 
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On March 21 2014 04:31 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 04:26 zer0das wrote:On March 21 2014 03:16 wei2coolman wrote:On March 21 2014 03:13 wussleeQ wrote:
jayce had terrible animations on release. nocturne, vayne and maybe graves to a slightly lesser extent were the biggest OP releases even with his terrible animations (it's still pretty bad), his kit was stupidly broken, people just didn't notice how stupid op'd 15% of max hp + base magic dmg was in lane I'm pretty convinced its because everyone insisted on building Triforce first. And then people were like wait... if I just build damage on Jayce, hooollly crap look at the damage. I don’t think people all jumped on the triforce for Jayce. It was very clear from the beginning that BT was a decent item for him.
Well post animations fix it was entirely the melee hammer nuke that made him insane. He had virtually no counterplay with his E in top lane since he would knock you out of damage range while also nuking your face for huge amounts of magic damage.
Post E-nerf he was underplayed a bit as he had mana problems until people realized you could build Tear on him and wreck face while almost never going oom AND getting a Muramana before you reasonably should be able to.
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On March 21 2014 04:33 Requizen wrote:MF buffs seem nice.
Pantheon got slammed super hard.
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Pretty excited for MF buffs, although 3s Q seems hilarious
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On March 21 2014 04:39 Sufficiency wrote:Pantheon got slammed super hard.
If those changes, especially the stun change, go through Panth will be unplayable. The last time Riot tried to lower his stun at early levels, they lowered it to 0.7 at level 1 and Panth was practically unplayable then. It's 0.5 this time around, which basically isn't even a stun. I mean, ffs Riven's W is a 0.75 second stun.
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the way i remember it his E was so strong that when jayce first came out people didn't even realize how absurd his gated Q was.
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On March 21 2014 04:41 chalice wrote:
the way i remember it his E was so strong that when jayce first came out people didn't even realize how absurd his gated Q was.
Release jayce was pretty much a bruiser, free stats on hammer form + absurd E damage meant that he was basically an absurdly powerful bruiser who happened to have a speed boost and poke as a bonus.
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Way to complete gut Pantheon lol.
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Release Jayce was like release Ez people sucked so bad that they didn't see what he was stupidly good at because he was retarderly good at something else.
Panth nerfs are waaaay out of line. Hes not even that good right now that 1 of the nerfs would bring him into line with all the other champs.
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Those mf changes look ridiculous (in a good way) she's gunna fucking hurt. Her ulti is a nerf at the early levels I think. I'm not sure if I like they kept impure shot magic damage, especially considering they just removed the AP ratio on it, and they've been making more and more cohesive kits for champions.
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Dat range is sooooooo short
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On March 21 2014 05:20 onlywonderboy wrote:Dat range is sooooooo short
Lol Riot are you for rela?
Quick, post it on reddit and stir a shitstorm!
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Release zyra was just dumb. Skillshot 200 speed faster than equivalents of morg/lux, and multitarget, free CDR etc. Darius I think was much more of a meta thing. He hard countered irelia(like 2 levels down still win duels countered post-6), and could dunk a lot of other popular picks.
Elise was probably even more overtuned than zyra, its just she was harder to play than the ewwqr one shot half the team of zyra.
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On March 21 2014 05:20 onlywonderboy wrote:Dat range is sooooooo short
LOL OMG WAT THAT'S HILARIOUS
Why would you castrate the manliest Champion like that!?
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she would be bonkers broken if she had more physical damage skills, even these buffs look pretty scary. not like she is garbage tier atm just has no escape. still does nutso damage.
I dont really like mf buffs because it just breeds more caitlyn picks which the game does not need atm. would like if they buffed champs that like actually need it and could bring something to the game. MF doesn't really bring anything interesting or relevant even if she is viable besides being yet another lane bully that you have to pick cait vs. yawn
lol @ that panth pic btw, can't say ill miss him
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Rank 1 not even worth taking anymore lol
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Are they serious with that Panth ulti nerf? LOL. More like shit skyfall now.
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pantheon will go back to mid or top, you can use ur ult to get back to lane faster.
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