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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 21 2014 03:13 wussleeQ wrote: jayce had terrible animations on release. nocturne, vayne and maybe graves to a slightly lesser extent were the biggest OP releases even with his terrible animations (it's still pretty bad), his kit was stupidly broken, people just didn't notice how stupid op'd 15% of max hp + base magic dmg was in lane | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
EDIT: Also, this might be nostalgia, but I still think double-E Lee Sin ultimately would have been healthier for the game than removing the bug but then subsequently buffing the shit out of everything else. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
fuck I've been in Africa almost as long as I've played league. ps TSM TSM TSM | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 21 2014 03:17 TheYango wrote: Yorick patch marked the turning point where the game went downhill toward what eventually culminated in season 2--it could be argued that several patches in season 2 mark the game's low point in terms of gameplay. Go figure the game going downhill coincided with the release of the most toxic champion in the game. EDIT: Also, this might be nostalgia, but I still think double-E Lee Sin ultimately would have been healthier for the game than removing the bug but then subsequently buffing the shit out of everything else. I dunno, recently been liking how LoL becoming less bursty. Longer engagement in modern LoL is far more interesting than short burst engagements. Also movespeed becoming a bigger and bigger influence in the game, and people are less and less likely to be 1 shotted (minus leblanc bullshit). | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On March 21 2014 03:23 JonGalt wrote: I only played from Christmas 2011 till October 2012, but release Diana was the most bonkers to me. fuck I've been in Africa almost as long as I've played league. ps TSM TSM TSM Hey JonGalt isn't dead How about that | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
and i am alive, but i have a much shittier phone now which relegates me to lurker status. 9 months till I'm playing league, 11 until I hit challenger. CHYEAH | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 21 2014 03:26 wei2coolman wrote: I dunno, recently been liking how LoL becoming less bursty. Longer engagement in modern LoL is far more interesting than short burst engagements. Also movespeed becoming a bigger and bigger influence in the game, and people are less and less likely to be 1 shotted (minus leblanc bullshit). Longer engagements are also partially a product of strong counter-engaging ability that reverse attempts to instagib someone--a lot of the strong picks of the time were characterized by this kind of strong counter-engage (Jarvan, pre-nerf Janna, etc.). | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On March 21 2014 03:30 JonGalt wrote: i meant TWICE as long. and i am alive, but i have a much shittier phone now which relegates me to lurker status. 9 months till I'm playing league, 11 until I hit challenger. CHYEAH the challenger dream, africa style | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On March 21 2014 02:20 Requizen wrote: Graves was really fucking dumb on release. They have nerfed every single ability in his kit (including his passive AND range) at least once. On release day, I don't think a single ADC could lane against him except Cait, but he even burst her out of lane most of the time. Don't forget base attack speed! | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On March 21 2014 03:11 SagaZ wrote: Vi and graves were super op at release. Elise actually got buffed shortly after her release because the general consensus was she was bad. Of course at that time it was only toplane Elise. Jayce was weird, he didn't get played alot on release, quite some time had to pass before people figured out how broken he was Vi wasn't much different from now. She was overtuned (which was counterbalanced by small bugs that were QoL'd quickly) but that's not comparable to outright broken OP like release-Darius or release-Zyra. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On March 21 2014 03:47 Alaric wrote: Vi wasn't much different from now. She was overtuned (which was counterbalanced by small bugs that were QoL'd quickly) but that's not comparable to outright broken OP like release-Darius or release-Zyra. Go look at the patches, Darius has been barely changed. He was not OP at release, just overhyped. HOT DAMN I'm a Reaver. Hide yo probes, hide yo SCVs, and hide your drones, cause I'm dropping everybody out here | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 21 2014 03:58 Alzadar wrote: Go look at the patches, Darius has been barely changed. He was not OP at release, just overhyped. HOT DAMN I'm a Reaver. Hide yo probes, hide yo SCVs, and hide your drones, cause I'm dropping everybody out here Eh. The ratio nerf on his passive hurt quite a bit since his passive was his primary source of damage. Even though it's only 0.1 AD ratio, it's actually reasonably big since Darius reliably gets 3~5 stacks of his passive every time he goes in to trade. It's also a bit of a meta thing. When Darius was released, all the popular top laners were particularly weak to Darius and also weren't amazing at flash farming back into relevance the way Shyvana and Mundo are. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
He was totally overshadowed by Jayce though. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
nerf shaco | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On March 21 2014 04:10 Ryuu314 wrote: Eh. The ratio nerf on his passive hurt quite a bit since his passive was his primary source of damage. Even though it's only 0.1 AD ratio, it's actually reasonably big since Darius reliably gets 3~5 stacks of his passive every time he goes in to trade. It's also a bit of a meta thing. When Darius was released, all the popular top laners were particularly weak to Darius and also weren't amazing at flash farming back into relevance the way Shyvana and Mundo are. "His passive was his primary source of damage"? That's just nonsense. His passive only applies when he deals damage, you can consider it as 20-30 extra damage per spell/auto-attack, it's good but it's impossible for it to do more damage than the skills/auto-attacks themselves. Sure, he gets 3~5 stacks of his passive every time he goes in to trade. So at 60 bonus AD he lost 30 damage over five seconds. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Low-health champions are OP. Makes people chase them to the end of Earth, let towers die, dive, get baited, stay after an enemy has respawned post-teamfight, give up drake, and all sorts of things. ._. Of course Teemo does it at full-health but I'm not sure if that still makes him OP. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On March 21 2014 03:16 wei2coolman wrote: even with his terrible animations (it's still pretty bad), his kit was stupidly broken, people just didn't notice how stupid op'd 15% of max hp + base magic dmg was in lane I'm pretty convinced its because everyone insisted on building Triforce first. And then people were like wait... if I just build damage on Jayce, hooollly crap look at the damage. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/03/320-pbe-update.html | ||
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