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On March 20 2014 22:38 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


Correct. AKA it's bullshit.

#buffveigar

On March 20 2014 23:56 phyvo wrote:
Man this xerath rework really has me down. I miss siege mode xerath, self rooting for 2 seconds out of every 2 minutes is the most boring thing ever. With that range it's not even a trade off.

On March 21 2014 00:03 Alaric wrote:
Tried dblade against Renekton on Jax and it's a bitch because although it kinda works, a single lucky trade and you're basically zoned off the wave. Then, if he's smart he won't push and even if you don't miss much exp the gold differential will bone you seeing how much Jax needs to pull ahead.

The most annoying part about Renekton is that his W goes through Counterstrike because "fuck dodge right?" and that with how fast he can combo and how wonky the turret AI can be sometimes (I've moved out of range and back in between a shot and when the targeting line appears and had the turret stay on me several times, and yesterday it did the opposite, I ran back in when I noticed I was too far and it switched anyway, it's so annoying to @_@) he can easily get his almost full combo off you while taking a turret shot at most, if any.
Guess I'll start cloth+5 and armour quints (over lifesteal), then build vamp over finishing tabi or trying to get triforce, and work on outsustaining him during fights.
Which still won't do shit early because Jax have no means of sticking once his E is down but at least it should let me farm.

Alternatively, push the wave like a madman from level 1 to prevent him from trying to be cute and last hit/harass with Q while waiting for me to try and get one of the caster minion to chase me to the reaches of Earth. Make him push back if he tries too hard, otherwise shove him to turret and back off for standard gank timing then let his wave push yours.

On March 20 2014 21:33 cLutZ wrote:

You('re) seeing bad renektons. Do you even iem?

On March 21 2014 00:29 Ketara wrote:


Yeah I think this rework was a pretty big failure.

The whole stated point of the rework was that they didn't think Xerath was bad but they wanted to give him a more unique and cool identity, then the only big change they did in the rework was to functionally remove what made him unique and cool, the self root.

On March 21 2014 01:35 Klonere wrote:
Is there a general consensus on what champ was most op/bad on launch? I'm super interested in that sort of stuff, I heard Xin was pretty ridiculous, obviously Irelia and Olaf were all really broken and Lucian was pretty underwhelming at launch.

On March 21 2014 01:38 Ketara wrote:
Zyra only champ I know of that was so OP at launch she had to be nerfed via hotfix.

On March 21 2014 01:53 wei2coolman wrote:
There's a reason why his name was WinXiao for so long.

Some of the ones from newest to older, that I think were pretty bonkers (straight release, not at all patched)
jinx(graves 2.0 except with global), zac(unkillable), elise(dat everything), kha'zix(dem missles), rengar(dat sustain), diana(dat dmg and tankiness), zyra(dat dmg and cc), jayce(dat hammer), draven (bleed op'd), darius (dat dmg), ahri (dat dmg), shyvana (dat clear speed), graves (dat burst), talon (infinite mana rake spam op'd), the rest I didn't play league before Ori release.

On March 21 2014 01:44 silencefc wrote:


LeBlanc was hotfix nerfed the day she was released.

On March 21 2014 01:15 Sufficiency wrote:


Dude. He has a Memento Mori/Genesis like ult. What could be morr awesome than that?

On a more serious note, Xerath is hard to play and his IP cost is high. Without any kind of incentives (e.g. good skin, grossly overpowered launch), very few players are willing to try him. It is like what happened to Ezreal in S2.

I honestly feel he isn't bad at all in his current state. But he doesn't stand out so few players are willing to invest the time and eenergy to play him well.

On March 21 2014 02:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Actually wasn't release TF pretty stupid? it had like 2 globals right?