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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 20 2014 20:28 GMT
#721
Actually, I'd be ok with them nerfing the range that badly if they compensated by removing the channel time or buffing it in some other way (stunning within the landing zone or something). As is it's shit, tho.
It's your boy Guzma!
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
March 20 2014 20:30 GMT
#722
On March 21 2014 05:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
she would be bonkers broken if she had more physical damage skills, even these buffs look pretty scary. not like she is garbage tier atm just has no escape. still does nutso damage.

I dont really like mf buffs because it just breeds more caitlyn picks which the game does not need atm. would like if they buffed champs that like actually need it and could bring something to the game. MF doesn't really bring anything interesting or relevant even if she is viable besides being yet another lane bully that you have to pick cait vs. yawn

lol @ that panth pic btw, can't say ill miss him


Cait, from my experience, isn't even that big a deal. Feels like a skill match up in my games (I main MF). Auto-Q-Auto on Cait will generally outrade if you avoid taking Headshots. Hardest matchups I have as MF are against Tristana and Draven, and I think Lucian... Though I don't see him very often these days.

All I know is I'm going to have a ton of fun playing ADC if these buffs go through, I feel stronk as it is on MF when it comes to dealing damage.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 20 2014 20:31 GMT
#723
Wtf that rape, and W's stun duration halved at level 1 for the skill he maxes last? Screw you Riot, that better be subject to evaluation, that's taking most of HSS or at least an auto off of his combo when he's laning, way to kneejerk.
His level 1 ult also suddenly became pretty shit for laning Panth because 2k range is enough to lane gank but far too little to roam effectively from mid, let alone a sidelane.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
March 20 2014 20:33 GMT
#724
Pretty sure pantheon only is strong right now because single target damage with a tiny bit of AoE rules the jungle. Also because you can't get lvl 3 off double buffs.

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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 20:34:36
March 20 2014 20:33 GMT
#725
On March 21 2014 05:28 Requizen wrote:
Actually, I'd be ok with them nerfing the range that badly if they compensated by removing the channel time or buffing it in some other way (stunning within the landing zone or something). As is it's shit, tho.

But but but they lowered the CD!

Edit: Nerfing the popular Jungle champs sequentially is getting pretty annoying though. I don't mind the current state of the Jungle, but if they just keep nerfing them one by one it's gonna get stupid. Wukong even more of a priority pick I guess.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 20:38:38
March 20 2014 20:37 GMT
#726
By the time the ult finishes channeling, the enemy would be like twice that range away.

It's not even good to use to get back in lane since you can walk that distance almost as fast as the channel time PLUS level 1 ult costs almost half your mana pool at level 6.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 20 2014 20:38 GMT
#727
On March 21 2014 05:33 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 05:28 Requizen wrote:
Actually, I'd be ok with them nerfing the range that badly if they compensated by removing the channel time or buffing it in some other way (stunning within the landing zone or something). As is it's shit, tho.

But but but they lowered the CD!

Edit: Nerfing the popular Jungle champs sequentially is getting pretty annoying though. I don't mind the current state of the Jungle, but if they just keep nerfing them one by one it's gonna get stupid. Wukong even more of a priority pick I guess.

That's just how Riot approaches their balance. nerf what's popular without thinking how it creates a rotation of what's op'd.
liftlift > tsm
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 20:40:30
March 20 2014 20:40 GMT
#728
We need RiotKetara to explain how this is a brilliant change.
TranslatorBaa!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 20 2014 20:40 GMT
#729
free ryze free weezy
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 21:02:50
March 20 2014 20:48 GMT
#730
Well obviously if it still has the channel at that range it's complete garbage. But with no channel and ~1 second cast it could be very powerful. Thing is then it's basically just Nocturne ultimate.
I am the Town Medic.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
March 20 2014 20:51 GMT
#731
On March 21 2014 05:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
We need RiotKetara to explain how this is a brilliant change.

The change for Pantheon W trades some of his early game for a much stronger late game since Pantheon is too strong early and falls off very hard late.
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lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
March 20 2014 20:53 GMT
#732
This will obviously separate the good pantheons from the great ones.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 20 2014 20:54 GMT
#733
On March 21 2014 05:28 Requizen wrote:
Actually, I'd be ok with them nerfing the range that badly if they compensated by removing the channel time or buffing it in some other way (stunning within the landing zone or something). As is it's shit, tho.


They HAVE to remove the channel otherwise it's a completely worthless skill. Maybe that's what they want. So you don't level ulti until 14/15/16.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 20:56:53
March 20 2014 20:55 GMT
#734
He doesn't fall off that hard if you change your playstyle accordingly. He stills outputs a fuckton of damage, but he can't just jump people anymore for fear of cc, exploding or failing to 100-0 people.
Either helping peeling for his carries (HSS stacks BC fast and provides a lot of damage, W is still a point'n'click stun) or being part of an extremely offensive line-up to cover up his inability to frontline lets him stay relevant.

And it's not "some" early game, it reduces his ability to burst people down a lot because 0.5s won't keep them in place (heck, it'll even feel shorter because Panth stuns on contact, not when he reaches the ground). He'll still have his harass, but his all-ins and such would get a lot weaker in lane... and he needs them.

Obviously if you try to dive or assassinate late game you're in for a bad surprise. His splitpushing is somewhat decent too depending on the enemy team (he's a good duelists, but he'll get wrecked by most good splitpushers).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 20 2014 20:59 GMT
#735
On March 21 2014 05:51 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 05:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
We need RiotKetara to explain how this is a brilliant change.

The change for Pantheon W trades some of his early game for a much stronger late game since Pantheon is too strong early and falls off very hard late.


I don't see how it makes his late game that much stronger or how pantheon falls off late. He does huge amounts of damage late game and you just have to change your playstyle from jumping in there constantly to playing more on the outskirts of a fight. Panth late game is actually good. Having a slightly longer stun at max rank doesn't really make him that much stronger late game.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 21:03:02
March 20 2014 21:02 GMT
#736
I'm pretty sure Xes is being satirical
liftlift > tsm
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 21:12:16
March 20 2014 21:03 GMT
#737
i believe xes was being facetious
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 21:10:01
March 20 2014 21:04 GMT
#738
My impression is that xes was being sarcastic.
I am the Town Medic.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 20 2014 21:04 GMT
#739
Oh I didn't read the quoted part. I'm an idiot.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 20 2014 21:07 GMT
#740
Well they want to make it clear that you can counter Panth jungle by invading him with your mid, top, and bot lanes while your jungle steals his red. Really, he's very easy to shut down.
It's your boy Guzma!
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