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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 21 2014 06:45 Taktik wrote: Yeah Pantheons ult got Nocturne'd~(PBE) I think its kinda sad that these global and pseudo global ults are getting nerfed and nerfed again. It made some champions more unique and some games more exciting. Meanwhile champion like Gangplank who got real global ult are not getting changed~ Just Nocturne his ult too and rework his E for gods sake~. I don't really like when people compare the nerfs to what happened to Nocturne. There's a HUGE difference in that Nocturn's is targeted with no channel time. If you get the cast off, you will (barring bugs) always get to your target. Panth has a huge channel time plus your target can get away with good awareness/reflexes. I'm honestly more astounded by the fact that they're even considering that nerf to his stun because they've literally done this exact change before except much less harsh and until they partially reverted that nerf Pantheon was literally unplayable. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On March 21 2014 06:26 Alzadar wrote: No. Otherwise all Challenger players ignore WildTurtle. You won't get them on your team again but you can play against them if you ignore them | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On March 21 2014 07:11 Ryuu314 wrote: I don't really like when people compare the nerfs to what happened to Nocturne. There's a HUGE difference in that Nocturn's is targeted with no channel time. If you get the cast off, you will (barring bugs) always get to your target. Panth has a huge channel time plus your target can get away with good awareness/reflexes. I'm honestly more astounded by the fact that they're even considering that nerf to his stun because they've literally done this exact change before except much less harsh and until they partially reverted that nerf Pantheon was literally unplayable. Well it was Noc'd in the sense that it's a huge range nerf on a semi-global ability. | ||
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Kyrie
1594 Posts
On March 21 2014 07:22 kongoline wrote: after so many backfired and ridiculous changes they did in the past i would think people already realized that riots balance team has no clue what they are doing patently untrue, they clearly have a clue in fact they have many people with many clues | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 21 2014 07:31 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote: Despite the deserved shit on Panth nerfs, I feel that it's cool that Riot is buffing ADC's again. Trist & Kog buffs last patch that were pretty big; now MF is getting a lot of love. Cait's still a strong lane counterpick but without a steroid she won't be that useful in yoloQ vs Kog/trist/MF/Jinx imo. Then again I'm only a dia IV scrub Marksmen. Thoughts on Rito buffing ADC's? I think the itemization nerfs is going to take some serious champion kit buffs to give back ADC's more power. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On March 21 2014 04:41 Ryuu314 wrote: If those changes, especially the stun change, go through Panth will be unplayable. The last time Riot tried to lower his stun at early levels, they lowered it to 0.7 at level 1 and Panth was practically unplayable then. It's 0.5 this time around, which basically isn't even a stun. I mean, ffs Riven's W is a 0.75 second stun. Riven's stun also has a hefty post animation. | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On March 21 2014 07:29 arb wrote: You won't get them on your team again but you can play against them if you ignore them Are you sure? I've, on several occasions, had conversations in lobby which didn't really make sense, until i realized that I wasn't seeing what another guy was typing because he was on my ignore list. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On March 21 2014 07:29 arb wrote: You won't get them on your team again but you can play against them if you ignore them incorrect | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
And fifty ways to cancel it. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On March 21 2014 07:29 arb wrote: You won't get them on your team again but you can play against them if you ignore them Easily falsified, but also easily believable because the prior probability of having someone on your team twice ever is already absurdly low until you're in the "only 40 other dudes with this MMR" bracket. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
You probably hate SSBM. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
While we're comparing the two, doesn't Riven's stun prevent Pantheon stun if she stuns right as his W lands because Panth gets stunned before his animation finishes and resolves the CC? | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On March 21 2014 07:40 Terranasaur wrote: That Panth nerf is literally the stupidest change I've ever seen in my ~3 years of League. It has a total of 3.5 seconds cast time. That means that you move with a MS of ~570. Pantheon has a base MS of 355. His stun has a range of 600. A pantheon without any movement speed improvements (masteries, runes or items) would be slightly better off ulting to a target instead of walking + W (little less than half a second). His ult would be literally useless, because when running to a target you can at least hide your presence. If I were to change Pantheon's ult I'd probably remove the slow, see how that ends up. If that makes him too weak up his ult range a bit. When you look at the other globals Pantheon's isn't the strongest imo. The rest of his kit along with the strong single target damage makes him a viable pick. AOE only junglers are dead. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On March 21 2014 07:31 Kyrie wrote: patently untrue, they clearly have a clue in fact they have many people with many clues ahem this is balance whine and not allowed on this website | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On March 21 2014 07:50 xes wrote: While we're comparing the two, doesn't Riven's stun prevent Pantheon stun if she stuns right as his W lands because Panth gets stunned before his animation finishes and resolves the CC? Yes, any dash can be screwed over by stuff like Riven's stun, Renekton's Q (sometimes his W too, his auto animation has close to no upswing), Lee's Q, etc. Don't ever try killing one of them with a dash thinking "it'll hit before they can auto me" as both of you have 50 HP, you'll just put yourself on ballistic trajectory and become a free kill. | ||
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