EPT[Patch 4.3] Vel'Koz General Discussion - Page 87
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
On March 10 2014 08:29 Eiii wrote: Shit, this is totally possible but my data collection wasn't set up for it. When I keep toying with this in the future, division info'll be the first thing I add. Just so you know the database's large enough that I sort of have to take a subsample of it-- so instead of 1mil games we're looking at 10k or so, so these results are about right but will change every time I run it. I can get better averages later but I'm not that patient for now lol + Show Spoiler + Top ten champs by average TOTAL damage dealt: +---------------+-------------+ Top ten champs by average damage dealt to champions: +---------------+------------+ Top ten champs by average damage received: +---------------+------------+ Top ten combined (dmg dealt to champs + dmg taken): +---------------+------------+ Here's what I can do! + Show Spoiler + Average ward stats: +------------------+------------------+ Average ward stats for winning teams: +------------------+------------------+ Average ward stats for losing teams: +------------------+------------------+ Pretty interesting. What is the unit for the average ward numbers? Per team per game? Per champ per game? Crazy how few people use wards that aren't trinket wards. Are pinks included? Also, on the most TOTAL damage dealt, the three highest champs all have Statikk Shiv as their core, that item is putting out a lot of damage to champs/minions combined it would seem. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On March 10 2014 09:55 Sufficiency wrote: I don't think it;s machine learning. It's just statistics. I think if GEE is applied to this dataset we can find out the the synergies and counters of a particular champion (provided there is enough data). It's possible but you couldn't get that deep. While individual champion interactions would be possible composition or interactions between champions would quickly eat up your degrees of freedom in even the largest data sets. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
Interesting, isn't it? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
Oh god, this is too good. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 10 2014 12:01 Gahlo wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/20080w/meteos_having_problems_travelling/ Oh god, this is too good. Holy fucking shit. How the fuck did this happen? rofl. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
EDIT: this? http://www.twitch.tv/maknoonlol/ EDIT2: All I hear is QQQQQQQQQQQQ | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On March 10 2014 12:15 Alaric wrote: Scarra said in a twit once that he had trouble signing with his actual name instead of his handle, wouldn't be surprised that the same happened to Meteos. There's a bit of a difference between signing a signature, and booking a plane ticket :p | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On March 10 2014 11:35 YouGotNothin wrote: Pretty interesting. What is the unit for the average ward numbers? Per team per game? Per champ per game? Crazy how few people use wards that aren't trinket wards. Are pinks included? Also, on the most TOTAL damage dealt, the three highest champs all have Statikk Shiv as their core, that item is putting out a lot of damage to champs/minions combined it would seem. Units for wards are per player per game. Lol, I just realized I'm including ARAM data in that, one sec. EDIT: Actual ward data (i.e. summoner's rift only) + Show Spoiler + Average ward stats: +------------------+------------------+ Average ward stats for winning teams: +------------------+------------------+ Average ward stats for losing teams: +------------------+------------------+ | ||
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YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On March 10 2014 14:00 YouGotNothin wrote: That's pretty fail from management. Honestly NA LCS team management seems to be horrible. How many teams have not been able to field their starting rosters because of poor management? CLG with Dexter, TSM with Bjergsen, wasn't there something with Pobelter on EG also? Visas end when they end. If anything, the timing of Bjergsen renewing his is the sign of good management. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 10 2014 14:00 YouGotNothin wrote: That's pretty fail from management. Honestly NA LCS team management seems to be horrible. How many teams have not been able to field their starting rosters because of poor management? CLG with Dexter, TSM with Bjergsen, wasn't there something with Pobelter on EG also? Actually, Bjergsen's case is an example of GOOD management. Apparently he has to go back to get his VISA renewed sooner or later, and TSM chose sooner so he wouldn't miss the play off. Also Meteos got on the plane. It took him an extra hour but he is going to Poland. Check his twitter. | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On March 10 2014 14:00 YouGotNothin wrote: That's pretty fail from management. Honestly NA LCS team management seems to be horrible. How many teams have not been able to field their starting rosters because of poor management? CLG with Dexter, TSM with Bjergsen, wasn't there something with Pobelter on EG also? TSM could choose to renew Bjergsens visa now, or right before playoffs. I'd say taking it in the middle of the season when you're in a good spot is way better than risking playoffs without the Bjerger king, dont you say? | ||
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YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On March 10 2014 14:00 YouGotNothin wrote: That's pretty fail from management. Honestly NA LCS team management seems to be horrible. How many teams have not been able to field their starting rosters because of poor management? CLG with Dexter, TSM with Bjergsen, wasn't there something with Pobelter on EG also? Idk if the Bjergsen thing was poor management, if anything it was a good idea for them to be doing this now instead of later, since they've secured their seed in the playoffs. EDIT: Well triple ninja'ed | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
On March 10 2014 11:04 oneofthem wrote: earlier someone mentioned applying sports analytics to league. we need better data in order to do that. stuff like damage done, good fights initiated etc. some sort of accurate reflection of actual plays rather than kda and such. it could be interesting though sports statistics aren't created by magical fairies or computer programs, there are guys watching every game and recording every pitch, every shot, every pass. what's preventing the e-sports data from existing is that there isn't anyone that cares enough to put in the work to create it. long before there were sabremetrics and player efficiency ratings there was just some guy in the stands filling out a box score. lol does present some unique challenges to gathering the data though, like if you wanted to track the percentage of CS or skillshots missed in the LCS it would be almost impossible without replays because at any one time up to 90% of the players aren't even on the screen. while in traditional sports the vast majority of meaningful action is centered around a single ball, there is no such focus in league to prevent important events from happening simultaneously causing at least one to be unobserved. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 10 2014 14:21 YouGotNothin wrote: I guess I don't understand visas, you have to go back to your country and stay a while to renew them? If you have a permanent job in the U.S. I thought renewing them was quite easy. I know this is probably not super-relevant, but I have a colleague from Columbia who has been in the U.S. for 4 years without ever having to return. Thing is, none of the foreign players in NA (exception of maybe EG - I don't know anything about them), have green cards. Important distinction because green cards allow you to work in a country for X years. Visas merely let you visit/stay in a country for a short period of time for a pre-determined reason. Once that time period and/or reason for your visit has been fulfilled, you have to gtfo the country or risk getting arrested and deported. IIRC, Bjergsen and the rest of the foreign players in NA have athletic visas, which allow them to stay in the US for the duration of the athletic event (LCS). My guess is that playoffs are considered a separate event as far as the government is concerned so you'll need an extension on your visa to stay for that. AFAIK, you can renew green cards within the US, but visas require you to go back home. Bjergsen's visa has NOT expired yet, but TSM chose to have Bjergsen leave for home now rather than wait until it expires and risk not having him for playoffs due to the nightmare that is government bureaucracy. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
I think I can remember this happening in SC2 with the plane ticket? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On March 10 2014 15:52 Eppa! wrote: America is a shitty country to get a visa for compared to say China. I think I can remember this happening in SC2 with the plane ticket? Then if you mention you're a journalist when trying to get into china they blacklist you. | ||
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