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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-09 20:13:59
March 09 2014 20:11 GMT
#1681
On March 10 2014 05:07 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 05:07 Slusher wrote:
On March 10 2014 04:16 Ketara wrote:
I have a question.

For common farmy mid laners (say Ori, Grag, Ziggs, etc), at what point does each one one shot ranged creeps with a skill?

For example, Lux typically needs both Athenes and Deathcap to do it and doesnt do it till around 25 mins, and I know compared to the above she's fairly slow.

How fast do the others do it?


the thing about Gragas and Ziggs is they have multiple AoE, Q max Ori can also do this thing where you throw the ball to the casters while walking backwards, leash the ball then throw it immediately off cd that can kill casters and melee if you do it a 3rd time.

Or you can just max w on ori and faceroll.


w max def requires more than Athene's only to clear faster than this method. but likely has more lane kill potential on Athens only, I personal do use W max a lot of the time but I learned this method from watching Korean Ori players and it seems safer, if you are vs. someone you don't want to all in anyway like LB or Fizz.
Carrilord has arrived.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 09 2014 20:20 GMT
#1682
W max is also way more vulnerable against champions like LB and Zed.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 09 2014 20:21 GMT
#1683
On March 10 2014 05:11 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 05:07 nafta wrote:
On March 10 2014 05:07 Slusher wrote:
On March 10 2014 04:16 Ketara wrote:
I have a question.

For common farmy mid laners (say Ori, Grag, Ziggs, etc), at what point does each one one shot ranged creeps with a skill?

For example, Lux typically needs both Athenes and Deathcap to do it and doesnt do it till around 25 mins, and I know compared to the above she's fairly slow.

How fast do the others do it?


the thing about Gragas and Ziggs is they have multiple AoE, Q max Ori can also do this thing where you throw the ball to the casters while walking backwards, leash the ball then throw it immediately off cd that can kill casters and melee if you do it a 3rd time.

Or you can just max w on ori and faceroll.


w max def requires more than Athene's only to clear faster than this method. but likely has more lane kill potential on Athens only, I personal do use W max a lot of the time but I learned this method from watching Korean Ori players and it seems safer, if you are vs. someone you don't want to all in anyway like LB or Fizz.

I used to max it but then a friend told me to max w so I started and I like it a lot more.Better poke.And vs mobile champs like fizz/lb I just get an early 2nd point in shield.The w max poke is just so good.Harder to position ball though.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
March 09 2014 20:31 GMT
#1684
hey guys, let's say I've been taking advantage of the riot API for the last few weeks and now have super-details stats of a couple million individual play sessions. Is there any interesting data you guys want to see, or questions this dataset might somehow be able to answer?
:3
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
March 09 2014 20:36 GMT
#1685
i want to see what builds will lead to guaranteed LCS victories please. pls no sharerino with other teams tho
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
March 09 2014 20:37 GMT
#1686
On March 10 2014 05:36 gtrsrs wrote:
i want to see what builds will lead to guaranteed LCS victories please. pls no sharerino with other teams tho


play quinn -> win games -> ez

didn't even need the dataset for that one.
:3
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
March 09 2014 20:42 GMT
#1687
On March 10 2014 05:31 Eiii wrote:
hey guys, let's say I've been taking advantage of the riot API for the last few weeks and now have super-details stats of a couple million individual play sessions. Is there any interesting data you guys want to see, or questions this dataset might somehow be able to answer?

can you filter for league/division? would be interesting to see who the top 10-20 d1/challenger players are in categories like gold per minute. although i wonder if a stat like that somewhat self-filters, excepting smurfs, i would expect there would be a strong correlation between GPM and ELO.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 09 2014 20:44 GMT
#1688
I'd be pretty interested if you have informations regarding wards, but I'm not sure how to judge it. Average wards per game? Average wards per minute? Average number of wards out on the map at the same time?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 09 2014 20:59 GMT
#1689
What champions tend to do the most damage and take the most damage?

What kind of stats are there in terms of winning percentage?
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 09 2014 21:06 GMT
#1690
ADC/karthus usually does the most damage
bruiser/tank usually takes the most damage
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 09 2014 21:10 GMT
#1691
On March 10 2014 06:06 Frolossus wrote:
ADC/karthus usually does the most damage
bruiser/tank usually takes the most damage


Well, I meant both combined. Obviously, a Twitch is going to have more relative damage than say a Sejuani, but thats not exactly what I'm looking for.

I'm sure there is some sort of pattern where one champion has slightly more capacity than other champions. Who knows if that is apparent in the data, but its worth looking for anyway.

Also, i had to google API. My Line of work is apparently rather evident as all I could think of was the American Petroleum Institute.

<_<
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
March 09 2014 21:22 GMT
#1692
On March 10 2014 05:08 Gahlo wrote:
faux-Riot fucking lazy, it's just a recolor!

#entitledgamers

• Recolor of helmet from golden to grey
• Glowing lines on tendrils
• HD-eye from official art
• More badass portrait on loading screen
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
March 09 2014 21:37 GMT
#1693
On March 10 2014 05:59 iCanada wrote:
What champions tend to do the most damage and take the most damage?

What kind of stats are there in terms of winning percentage?

id guess champs like renkton or shyvana
TL+ Member
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 09 2014 21:40 GMT
#1694
Apparently my RP calculator reddit post got deleted by a mod. Boo.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 09 2014 21:41 GMT
#1695
On March 09 2014 16:40 Sufficiency wrote:
Shamelessly advertising this again (click on the picture to try it yourself!). I need more upvotes

[image loading]


Halp Sufficiency.

I can only buys Syndra / Brand / Malz / Morde. Have every other champion. How I make werk?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-09 21:46:15
March 09 2014 21:44 GMT
#1696
On March 10 2014 06:41 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 16:40 Sufficiency wrote:
Shamelessly advertising this again (click on the picture to try it yourself!). I need more upvotes

[image loading]


Halp Sufficiency.

I can only buys Syndra / Brand / Malz / Morde. Have every other champion. How I make werk?


That's going to be hard.

You can't specify a maximum number of times you can buy from a single option (e.g. I can only buy one 4800IP champion).

You can try to play with the custom buying options. It might help you.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
March 09 2014 22:21 GMT
#1697
On March 10 2014 06:22 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 05:08 Gahlo wrote:
faux-Riot fucking lazy, it's just a recolor!

#entitledgamers

• Recolor of helmet from golden to grey Recolor
• Glowing lines on tendrils Meh
• HD-eye from official art Copy pasterino
• More badass portrait on loading screen Isn't it just a recolor of the normal one?

Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 09 2014 22:33 GMT
#1698
On March 10 2014 06:40 Sufficiency wrote:
Apparently my RP calculator reddit post got deleted by a mod. Boo.


This is why Reddit is bad.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 09 2014 22:38 GMT
#1699
On March 10 2014 07:33 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 06:40 Sufficiency wrote:
Apparently my RP calculator reddit post got deleted by a mod. Boo.


This is why Reddit is bad.


No explanation is supplied so I am gonna repost it.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 09 2014 22:46 GMT
#1700
On March 10 2014 07:38 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 07:33 Ketara wrote:
On March 10 2014 06:40 Sufficiency wrote:
Apparently my RP calculator reddit post got deleted by a mod. Boo.


This is why Reddit is bad.


No explanation is supplied so I am gonna repost it.


Why would they even delete it?

Dont make sense...
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