EPT[Patch 4.3] Vel'Koz General Discussion - Page 83
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IMoperator
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Cubu
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On March 09 2014 20:55 IMoperator wrote: do you evolve e or q first on kha jungle? Q first then E i believe for dmgs then resets | ||
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Chemiczny84
Poland458 Posts
On March 09 2014 20:55 IMoperator wrote: do you evolve e or q first on kha jungle? q if opponents tanky, e if suishy, depends also on your lanes (probability of getting resets on e) | ||
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IMoperator
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On March 09 2014 21:38 IMoperator wrote: also, im like completely stalling out in diamond 3. I have no idea what my strengths are as a player, it just feels like im mediocre at every role. Idk how i got this high, but it feels like i shouldnt be here. I cannot jungle, I can basically only play leblanc in mid, im decent at adc i guess, i dont play any tops and im not especially great at support. no idea what i should focus on to improve atm. I know dat feel, so take these 2 cents. When i spammed my way up towards diamond 1, i was stuck in diamond 3 for the same reasons like you. I was playing Nunu at every chance i was giving, and every time i didn't get him, i was just mediocre and relied on my team. My best piece of advice, would be to find a "security pick" in case you don't get LB. What ADC's are you playing? EDIT: And when you get Lebonk, aim for more consistent methods of carrying, that way the down-fall of not getting her for a few games, isn't as bad. | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On March 09 2014 22:00 Sponkz wrote: I know dat feel, so take these 2 cents. When i spammed my way up towards diamond 1, i was stuck in diamond 3 for the same reasons like you. I was playing Nunu at every chance i was giving, and every time i didn't get him, i was just mediocre and relied on my team. My best piece of advice, would be to find a "security pick" in case you don't get LB. What ADC's are you playing? EDIT: And when you get Lebonk, aim for more consistent methods of carrying, that way the down-fall of not getting her for a few games, isn't as bad. http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/48344783 that's my lolking, as you can see, besides lb i really dont do well on anything else. and i doubt im even good at leblanc, she's just op as fuck right now. i hate having to be carried so much, but i just have no idea what to play. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
It all comes down to finding 1-2 (maybe 3 if you feel really bad) new champions that can help support the LP gain you've obtained so far, from playing LB. Don't focus too much on what's op or not, if you have a feeling that the "OP-ness" is the factor that is carrying you right now, i would suggest that you practice more (custom games, normals, ranked 5v5 - don't ever think about practicing in solo Q). | ||
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Celial
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On March 09 2014 21:38 IMoperator wrote: also, im like completely stalling out in diamond 3. I have no idea what my strengths are as a player, it just feels like im mediocre at every role. Idk how i got this high, but it feels like i shouldnt be here. I cannot jungle, I can basically only play leblanc in mid, im decent at adc i guess, i dont play any tops and im not especially great at support. no idea what i should focus on to improve atm. Just pick some champs you enjoy playing.All there is to it.If you feel like you "have to" grind to get higher elo it is just a waste. | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/7oQkx.jpg) lolking da bes | ||
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Yezzus
United States2318 Posts
On March 09 2014 20:55 IMoperator wrote: do you evolve e or q first on kha jungle? MAX Q then W, BUT evolve E at lvl 11 | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
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Yezzus
United States2318 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On March 09 2014 18:26 xes wrote: But having a Wight camp allows non AoE power farming non traditional junglers be viable again! Maokai, Amumu, Nautilus, etc are all way too strong and with the Wight camp we're seeing a lot more jungle Tryndamere and Gangplank. I think Riot did a great job with the Season 4 jungle changes. Doesn't need the Wight: redirecting HP from small monsters to big ons gave a huge hit to Maokai and Nautilus' clear times (Amumu is still 0K). Not being able to gank at level 2 hurts Maokai, falling behind by ganking compared to a farming jungler is very possible and despite Yango's issues with the enhanced exp from the jungle when behind, gold bounties aren't affected so the fact that Maokai and Nautilus farm camps very slowly makes them remain behind item-wise if you ever fuck up (and Nautilus is utter trash when behind: he's rather bad/situational late game, and being behind is like hitting late game earlier for him). Nautilus was already bad at the end of season 3 after his shield damage nerf. Probably still usable competitively depending on comps, but it made him more of a liability in soloQ with a very small timing window (weak early, falls off hard as soon as midgame hits) unless he snowballs. Having the buff monsters get massive amounts of HP means that even if you get a big leash on your first buff, the 2nd one will take you very long to kill (and costs you HP; even more so for Nautilus who's basically on a timer: if you can't kill a camp before your shield runs out, you can add ~10s to the time it'll take to kill it); So even though you may have good ganking kits, compare to fast clearing/single-target junglers you won't even be in position to gank/countergank because of how slow you are. Finally, not having everyone run Shyvana, Kha'Zix or Udyr and being able to outduel you/outscale you after power farming the jungle means that Lee Sin, Elise, etc. have a lot less pressure on them to get an advantage rolling into the midgame, and their popularity/viability in the jungle tends to single-handedly invalidate weak early/poor dueling junglers (Maokai, Nautilus, Rammus, Fiddlesticks, etc. Amumu can go by as long as he gets his blue, Nautilus needs level 3 (ideally 4 even) and straight-up dies if you go and see him, Maokai can survive an invade but will still be boned from the time and camps lost). | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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InfSunday
United States735 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 10 2014 01:21 InfSunday wrote: For the people playing Kha in the jungle, how much do you think this patch's changes hurt his clear and overall viability? I haven't played him since the patch yet (for some reason Elise hasn't been banned very much recently for me) and am interested to see if he's still bonkers OP. he's still alright, but resets don't mean as much anymore, its a more of a positioning tool now than a damage oriented ability. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
On March 10 2014 01:21 InfSunday wrote: For the people playing Kha in the jungle, how much do you think this patch's changes hurt his clear and overall viability? I haven't played him since the patch yet (for some reason Elise hasn't been banned very much recently for me) and am interested to see if he's still bonkers OP. Exactly the same, haven't felt the nerfs at all. Max Q evolve E first in the jungle imo | ||
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