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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On March 10 2014 16:08 Gahlo wrote: Then if you mention you're a journalist when trying to get into china they blacklist you. Not really? I actually know someone that is a journalist/academic that went to China for research. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On March 10 2014 16:37 Eppa! wrote: Not really? I actually know someone that is a journalist/academic that went to China for research. I remember somebody, I think it was penny arcade, tried to go to allstars last year to cover it and they were denied entry multiple times. | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On March 10 2014 16:39 Gahlo wrote: I remember somebody, I think it was penny arcade, tried to go to allstars last year to cover it and they were denied entry multiple times. He was applying as a journalist, which is the category for CNN correspondents etc, which requires extra clearance and time to process. If he had just swallowed his damn pride and stepped off his soapbox for a minute, he could've gone. Instead, he applies one-two weeks before the flight or so (lol) as a journalist (double lols), and the Visa office and Riot told him to reapply as a tourist (he's a writer covering an esports event, they don't give a fk). He wanted his ridiculous moral high ground and refused. Getting a Visa for China usually averages out at about a week, and all you need to do is submit paperwork. It's pretty damn easy, as someone who has done it multiple times and recently just did it for my mother last week. He was just being an idiot and tried to sensationalize it as some kind of journalistic martyrdom. A US visa ranges from either annoying (if you're from Europe) to freakishly impossible (see China, India, and anywhere else considered "underdeveloped"). Which is why the athletic visas were/are such a big deal. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On March 10 2014 17:31 Lord Tolkien wrote: He was applying as a journalist, which is the category for CNN correspondents etc, which requires extra clearance and time to process. If he had just swallowed his damn pride and stepped off his soapbox for a minute, he could've gone. Instead, he applies one-two weeks before the flight or so (lol) as a journalist (double lols), and the Visa office and Riot told him to reapply as a tourist (he's a writer covering an esports event, they don't give a fk). He wanted his ridiculous moral high ground and refused. Getting a Visa for China usually averages out at about a week, and all you need to do is submit paperwork. It's pretty damn easy, as someone who has done it multiple times and recently just did it for my mother last week. He was just being an idiot and tried to sensationalize it as some kind of journalistic martyrdom. A US visa ranges from either annoying (if you're from Europe) to freakishly impossible (see China, India, and anywhere else considered "underdeveloped"). Which is why the athletic visas were/are such a big deal. Ah, thanks for the clarification. =] + Show Spoiler [ GPL stuff] + TPA getting destroyed. Yikes. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On March 10 2014 17:31 Lord Tolkien wrote: He was applying as a journalist, which is the category for CNN correspondents etc, which requires extra clearance and time to process. If he had just swallowed his damn pride and stepped off his soapbox for a minute, he could've gone. Instead, he applies one-two weeks before the flight or so (lol) as a journalist (double lols), and the Visa office and Riot told him to reapply as a tourist (he's a writer covering an esports event, they don't give a fk). He wanted his ridiculous moral high ground and refused. Getting a Visa for China usually averages out at about a week, and all you need to do is submit paperwork. It's pretty damn easy, as someone who has done it multiple times and recently just did it for my mother last week. He was just being an idiot and tried to sensationalize it as some kind of journalistic martyrdom. A US visa ranges from either annoying (if you're from Europe) to freakishly impossible (see China, India, and anywhere else considered "underdeveloped"). Which is why the athletic visas were/are such a big deal. Honestly who would try to get a visa with less than a months notice? Anything less is idiotic unless you are a seasoned veteran or know a power player in said country. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On March 10 2014 17:22 739 wrote: Never had any problems to get a visa to China/USA, got 10 years visa for USA for travelling purposes and to China as well but can't recall for how long. I know it's not the same as for esports but come on. Doesn't it mainly come down to just applying for VISA in good time? I've only heard the stories about teams in eSports, but i doubt their management have experience to handling these type of situations prior to events. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
"I guess I should play other champs, I can't carry with Nami... " yep, not from mid.  He says "no more troll" and proceeds to get a SC2 game as soon as his soloQ game launches. That timing. 6-pool inc. ? | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On March 10 2014 20:33 cLutZ wrote: Honestly who would try to get a visa with less than a months notice? Anything less is idiotic unless you are a seasoned veteran or know a power player in said country. yea I always give visas or any sort of government document handling about 3 weeks to a month because you never know what might happen. A week ahead of time is naively optimistic at best and stupid at worst. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On March 10 2014 23:53 Ryuu314 wrote: AFAIK, all-stars is basically just the best team from each region duking it out for $50k. Then each region sends 2 "all-stars" to a sort of side tournament for fun. Probably just stuff like 1v1 and 2v2s. yea I think the lingering confusion is that it's called an all star game still, it's a spring season championship with show matches made from the attending teams. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
On March 10 2014 17:34 Gahlo wrote: Ah, thanks for the clarification. =] + Show Spoiler [ GPL stuff] + TPA getting destroyed. Yikes. http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1f9wb9/ Here's Reddit basically laughing at the guy for being naive. In the guy's head, he had some strange martyr narrative of the evil Chinese government hauling him off to political prison for daring to cover League of Legends from a western perspective, and he was making a statement or something. It was pretty lol. The original article links seems to be dead though, but it was your standard super paranoid self righteous I'M TAKING A STAND piece lol. It can be access via Internet Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20130607062039/http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/article/why-the-chinese-government-wouldnt-let-me-cover-the-league-of-legends-all-s | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
On March 10 2014 15:30 chalice wrote: sports statistics aren't created by magical fairies or computer programs, there are guys watching every game and recording every pitch, every shot, every pass. what's preventing the e-sports data from existing is that there isn't anyone that cares enough to put in the work to create it. long before there were sabremetrics and player efficiency ratings there was just some guy in the stands filling out a box score. lol does present some unique challenges to gathering the data though, like if you wanted to track the percentage of CS or skillshots missed in the LCS it would be almost impossible without replays because at any one time up to 90% of the players aren't even on the screen. while in traditional sports the vast majority of meaningful action is centered around a single ball, there is no such focus in league to prevent important events from happening simultaneously causing at least one to be unobserved. I think that the fact that you can make a great living out of sports betting has something to do with that as well. If eSports betting would be viable then there would likely be better statistics available as well. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
On March 11 2014 00:32 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote: I think that the fact that you can make a great living out of sports betting has something to do with that as well. If eSports betting would be viable then there would likely be better statistics available as well. It's kind of a chicken-and-egg situation though. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
also replays. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On March 11 2014 00:41 Slusher wrote: Also I think KDA is a boring statistic that is more times than not misleading It's also very easy to understand the limitations of KDA. | ||
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