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lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
March 10 2014 16:59 GMT
#1781
On March 11 2014 01:27 Sufficiency wrote:
It would be funny if Riot makes a low APM game mode where you can only perform a fixed number of actions per minute.


Turn based LoL?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 10 2014 17:01 GMT
#1782
On March 11 2014 01:59 lilwisper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 01:27 Sufficiency wrote:
It would be funny if Riot makes a low APM game mode where you can only perform a fixed number of actions per minute.


Turn based LoL?

I believe the term is bronze league.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 10 2014 17:21 GMT
#1783
On March 11 2014 02:01 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 01:59 lilwisper wrote:
On March 11 2014 01:27 Sufficiency wrote:
It would be funny if Riot makes a low APM game mode where you can only perform a fixed number of actions per minute.


Turn based LoL?

I believe the term is every league.

The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
March 10 2014 17:46 GMT
#1784
confirmed
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 10 2014 17:54 GMT
#1785
Teambuilder is out on NA.

Seems pretty neato.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
March 10 2014 18:15 GMT
#1786
On March 11 2014 01:46 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 00:57 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Facetious statements about just giving the money to SKT aside, there's certainly value for teams benchmarking themselves against a top Korean team, not to mention across other regions.

Mandu retired, they should totally slump. Plus the format looks to be more entertainment than a search for the best team with bo3 semis.

But yes...


Considering they still have Faker, Bengi, Impact, and Piglet, doubtful. Casper has done well in Master's, granted until their last set of games Faker had died a total of once, so there was that...
Steam: rook492
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 18:29:12
March 10 2014 18:28 GMT
#1787
On March 11 2014 00:06 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I've been trying out Diana jungle in normals and it's been a monster. Any suggestions/advice? I do feel as though my lanes are terribly weak pre-6, but my midgame is unreal with Spectral Wraith -> Zhonya's + Abyssal (though I don't know what item is best for her afterwards).


I've been trying her out too at ~Gold 4, and you're spot on about needing strong lanes for her to have the time and safety to farm up. I've felt a bit mana constrained at times, but it's probably just mismanagement on my part. I've been maxing W and occasionally using Q on camps, and ganks have always left me <100 mana. It's not as bad post-Wraith, so I've taken to just telling my lanes not to expect me unless they're absurdly shoved in and capable of providing hard cc.

4th item probably needs to be a randuins/veil so you can keep initiating confidently, though I could see the merits of Void Staff if you trust your team to do most of the heavy lifting while you're in stasis.
Trust in Bayes.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 18:48:25
March 10 2014 18:45 GMT
#1788
Diana jungle? I felt something calling me

On March 11 2014 00:06 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I've been trying out Diana jungle in normals and it's been a monster. Any suggestions/advice? I do feel as though my lanes are terribly weak pre-6, but my midgame is unreal with Spectral Wraith -> Zhonya's + Abyssal (though I don't know what item is best for her afterwards).


I like to assume I have to blow flash on my 1st gank, sort of like Udyr before the bear changes.

I personally like the wombo combo of Nashor's/Lich Bane/Zhonya (and ofc Spec Wraith). Nashor's is stupid strong for jungle Diana, and Lich Bane is just stupid good with her kit.

Fun fact with Lich Bane on jungle Diana. When doing objectives (drag, baron, towers) if you Q a minion/drag/baron and auto right after (proc'ing Bane) the Lich Bane c/d comes back up before moonlight wears off. Meaning you can chain together huge streaks of Lich Procs. For example you can do (off the top of my head): Q>R>W>Q>R>E>Q>R>W>Q>R>R all with procs. Or if you are not safe to blow E you can do Q>R>W>Q>R>R>W>Q all with procs. Combined with the damage from her passive, she DESTROYS objectives (if you have proper mana).

She's also hard to counter jungle because only a select few junglers can 1v1 her at any point in the game (Lee, Elise mainly). A lot of people don't respect this and hunt you in your jungle only to realize they made a big mistake thanks to all the free dmg from you passive. You E also works well because even while running (unless sub 5% hp) you can pull people to you and use the slow it gives to run away.

Her early game sucks, her mid game is god, and her end game is good if you did alright. She can fall VERY far behind however if you get killed early and cannot secure extra blues. Always assume your 1st gank will need flash, if you don't hesitate on it and get close, her lvl 3-4 ganks are very strong.

One last thing, learn the timing/range to do the Q>Ult where you land the ult before the Q lands yet you still get the reset. The extra second or so of timing is huge.

On an unrelated note, when the hell are they gonna change her ult not stacking passive bug? Been forever, and wasnt fixed as of last patch ;(.

Edit: For reference I mained jungle Diana from her release until about a month ago, have 500-700 games of it down.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 10 2014 18:58 GMT
#1789
How are her ganks pre 6? I'm guessing main goal before that point is just to farm and counter jungle if possible,
liftlift > tsm
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 19:01:19
March 10 2014 19:00 GMT
#1790
On March 11 2014 03:45 Diamond wrote:
Diana jungle? I felt something calling me

Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 00:06 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I've been trying out Diana jungle in normals and it's been a monster. Any suggestions/advice? I do feel as though my lanes are terribly weak pre-6, but my midgame is unreal with Spectral Wraith -> Zhonya's + Abyssal (though I don't know what item is best for her afterwards).


+ Show Spoiler [Jungle Diana stuff] +

I like to assume I have to blow flash on my 1st gank, sort of like Udyr before the bear changes.

I personally like the wombo combo of Nashor's/Lich Bane/Zhonya (and ofc Spec Wraith). Nashor's is stupid strong for jungle Diana, and Lich Bane is just stupid good with her kit.

Fun fact with Lich Bane on jungle Diana. When doing objectives (drag, baron, towers) if you Q a minion/drag/baron and auto right after (proc'ing Bane) the Lich Bane c/d comes back up before moonlight wears off. Meaning you can chain together huge streaks of Lich Procs. For example you can do (off the top of my head): Q>R>W>Q>R>E>Q>R>W>Q>R>R all with procs. Or if you are not safe to blow E you can do Q>R>W>Q>R>R>W>Q all with procs. Combined with the damage from her passive, she DESTROYS objectives (if you have proper mana).

She's also hard to counter jungle because only a select few junglers can 1v1 her at any point in the game (Lee, Elise mainly). A lot of people don't respect this and hunt you in your jungle only to realize they made a big mistake thanks to all the free dmg from you passive. You E also works well because even while running (unless sub 5% hp) you can pull people to you and use the slow it gives to run away.

Her early game sucks, her mid game is god, and her end game is good if you did alright. She can fall VERY far behind however if you get killed early and cannot secure extra blues. Always assume your 1st gank will need flash, if you don't hesitate on it and get close, her lvl 3-4 ganks are very strong.

One last thing, learn the timing/range to do the Q>Ult where you land the ult before the Q lands yet you still get the reset. The extra second or so of timing is huge.

On an unrelated note, when the hell are they gonna change her ult not stacking passive bug? Been forever, and wasnt fixed as of last patch ;(.

Edit: For reference I mained jungle Diana from her release until about a month ago, have 500-700 games of it down.


Are your runes and masteries and item order in the Diana discussion page? Because want.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 19:09:57
March 10 2014 19:06 GMT
#1791
On March 11 2014 04:00 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 03:45 Diamond wrote:
Diana jungle? I felt something calling me

On March 11 2014 00:06 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I've been trying out Diana jungle in normals and it's been a monster. Any suggestions/advice? I do feel as though my lanes are terribly weak pre-6, but my midgame is unreal with Spectral Wraith -> Zhonya's + Abyssal (though I don't know what item is best for her afterwards).


+ Show Spoiler [Jungle Diana stuff] +

I like to assume I have to blow flash on my 1st gank, sort of like Udyr before the bear changes.

I personally like the wombo combo of Nashor's/Lich Bane/Zhonya (and ofc Spec Wraith). Nashor's is stupid strong for jungle Diana, and Lich Bane is just stupid good with her kit.

Fun fact with Lich Bane on jungle Diana. When doing objectives (drag, baron, towers) if you Q a minion/drag/baron and auto right after (proc'ing Bane) the Lich Bane c/d comes back up before moonlight wears off. Meaning you can chain together huge streaks of Lich Procs. For example you can do (off the top of my head): Q>R>W>Q>R>E>Q>R>W>Q>R>R all with procs. Or if you are not safe to blow E you can do Q>R>W>Q>R>R>W>Q all with procs. Combined with the damage from her passive, she DESTROYS objectives (if you have proper mana).

She's also hard to counter jungle because only a select few junglers can 1v1 her at any point in the game (Lee, Elise mainly). A lot of people don't respect this and hunt you in your jungle only to realize they made a big mistake thanks to all the free dmg from you passive. You E also works well because even while running (unless sub 5% hp) you can pull people to you and use the slow it gives to run away.

Her early game sucks, her mid game is god, and her end game is good if you did alright. She can fall VERY far behind however if you get killed early and cannot secure extra blues. Always assume your 1st gank will need flash, if you don't hesitate on it and get close, her lvl 3-4 ganks are very strong.

One last thing, learn the timing/range to do the Q>Ult where you land the ult before the Q lands yet you still get the reset. The extra second or so of timing is huge.

On an unrelated note, when the hell are they gonna change her ult not stacking passive bug? Been forever, and wasnt fixed as of last patch ;(.

Edit: For reference I mained jungle Diana from her release until about a month ago, have 500-700 games of it down.


Are your runes and masteries and item order in the Diana discussion page? Because want.


Im about to head out atm ill post more in there later tonight with much more detail.

On March 11 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
How are her ganks pre 6? I'm guessing main goal before that point is just to farm and counter jungle if possible,


If you can flash into range lvl 3+ (or they just are very badly overextended), they are very strong, that W/passive is craziness at low levels. However if you can't, absolute dog shit and you just power farm to 6.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 19:18:22
March 10 2014 19:16 GMT
#1792
On March 11 2014 03:45 Diamond wrote:
On an unrelated note, when the hell are they gonna change her ult not stacking passive bug? Been forever, and wasnt fixed as of last patch ;(.


Why would he ult stack her passive?

The biggest issues I have when I play Diana is that I feel so crowded on my first item. To put her in the jungle with an extra 2k before getting those items seems stifling as all hell. That and NLR from jungle seems agonizing.

I do miss running around feeling like a Jedi in league. (Her outfit reminds me of some Jedi armor in TOR, main thing that got me interested in her in the first place.)
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 10 2014 19:50 GMT
#1793
is ranked disabled for teambuilder?
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 19:56:09
March 10 2014 19:54 GMT
#1794
Teambuilder is confusing. Heimer mid = average queue time, zyra mid (and most mids) = short, yet that's the standard position for both and as team captain you have no say over what champions people pick for what role. Why the anti-heimer bias?

edit: plus there's lulzy stuff, like, you get a shorter predicted queue time for bot lane annie mage than bot lane annie support. WTF is going on here?
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 10 2014 19:58 GMT
#1795
On March 11 2014 04:54 phyvo wrote:
Teambuilder is confusing. Heimer mid = average queue time, zyra mid (and most mids) = short, yet that's the standard position for both and as team captain you have no say over what champions people pick for what role. Why the anti-heimer bias?

edit: plus there's lulzy stuff, like, you get a shorter predicted queue time for bot lane annie mage than bot lane annie support. WTF is going on here?

I think people just want more playmaking out of the support position than the standard heal and peel.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 10 2014 20:08 GMT
#1796
On March 11 2014 04:16 Gahlo wrote:
Why would he ult stack her passive?


Because it did since release up until the patch where they changed auto attack resets. So if you did Q>R>R the follow up auto would be stacked with her passive. Tweeted Feral Pony and he said it was an unintended change.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 10 2014 20:10 GMT
#1797
How the heck should that even work to begin with? There's never been any mention in any skill description regarding that and it's not even consistent, since a spell without any aa component would stack an aa-based passive?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 20:12:35
March 10 2014 20:12 GMT
#1798
I fucking hate players who play champions with specific mechanics (biggest example would be globals like shen) and have NO idea how to use them, like this isnt even rage because i havent lost games because of it in god knows how long, ive seen people stomp shit with the likes of shen, karthus and completely miss easy shit because they cant use the ultis.

Really infuriating just to think about D: Why do people play these types of champions and not learn how to make use of what makes them unique and good?
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 10 2014 20:15 GMT
#1799
On March 11 2014 05:08 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 04:16 Gahlo wrote:
Why would he ult stack her passive?


Because it did since release up until the patch where they changed auto attack resets. So if you did Q>R>R the follow up auto would be stacked with her passive. Tweeted Feral Pony and he said it was an unintended change.

I never even noticed. Didn't even bother looking because the passive says autos and the ult doesn't mention anything about onhits.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 10 2014 20:20 GMT
#1800
to say nothing else about team builder the interface sure does look/feel cool
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