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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 08 2014 04:51 GMT
#1441
On March 08 2014 13:41 Dusty wrote:
I swear to god, WHAT IS THIS FUCKING LEE SIN "RE-WORK"

they're taking away all of his power and shifting it to bonus attackspeed on his passive

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, gg riot balance team

"lets rape lee sins entire early to mid game for a "slightly better" lategame!" (but not really cause all he gets now is that he attacks faster)

LOLOLOL

It's a lot of AS tbh, what if he turns into Jax like lategame?
liftlift > tsm
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
March 08 2014 04:52 GMT
#1442
On March 08 2014 13:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 13:41 Dusty wrote:
I swear to god, WHAT IS THIS FUCKING LEE SIN "RE-WORK"

they're taking away all of his power and shifting it to bonus attackspeed on his passive

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, gg riot balance team

"lets rape lee sins entire early to mid game for a "slightly better" lategame!" (but not really cause all he gets now is that he attacks faster)

LOLOLOL

It's a lot of AS tbh, what if he turns into Jax like lategame?

why not just play jax then
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 08 2014 04:53 GMT
#1443
if it makes me not have to waste one of my precious bans on lee sin, then great good riddance. 90% of diamond mains that champ must be balanced
I come in for the scraps
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 08 2014 04:55 GMT
#1444
On March 08 2014 13:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 13:41 Dusty wrote:
I swear to god, WHAT IS THIS FUCKING LEE SIN "RE-WORK"

they're taking away all of his power and shifting it to bonus attackspeed on his passive

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, gg riot balance team

"lets rape lee sins entire early to mid game for a "slightly better" lategame!" (but not really cause all he gets now is that he attacks faster)

LOLOLOL

It's a lot of AS tbh, what if he turns into Jax like lategame?

lol
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
March 08 2014 04:56 GMT
#1445
I disagree with their two premises (although the first one is somewhat valid, but easily addressed by reventing a shitload of nerfs)

But looks like riot would rather nerf more than admit they overnerf
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 05:13:08
March 08 2014 05:12 GMT
#1446
On March 08 2014 13:52 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 13:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 08 2014 13:41 Dusty wrote:
I swear to god, WHAT IS THIS FUCKING LEE SIN "RE-WORK"

they're taking away all of his power and shifting it to bonus attackspeed on his passive

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, gg riot balance team

"lets rape lee sins entire early to mid game for a "slightly better" lategame!" (but not really cause all he gets now is that he attacks faster)

LOLOLOL

It's a lot of AS tbh, what if he turns into Jax like lategame?

why not just play jax then

Because then you'd have to play Jax.

blind monks > lantern wielder.
liftlift > tsm
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
March 08 2014 05:32 GMT
#1447
Man, they could've just lowered Lee's early game power by REDUCING his passive Attack Speed or messing with the AS Slow on E.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 08 2014 05:47 GMT
#1448
On March 08 2014 12:20 Nos- wrote:
100 energy on safeguard is pretty fucking huge, and the E change probably kills top lee?


Yeah.

I also think them increasing his bonus Attack Speed is horse-shit.

Yeah, just what a melee wants late game, attack speed.

-.-
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 08 2014 05:52 GMT
#1449
There's been a lot of backlash over the proposed changes on Twitter, maybe this will be one of the times where Riot responds to the criticism and doesn't go through with the changes.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 08 2014 05:56 GMT
#1450
On March 08 2014 14:32 silencefc wrote:
Man, they could've just lowered Lee's early game power by REDUCING his passive Attack Speed or messing with the AS Slow on E.

or not touch him, he's in a decent state now.
liftlift > tsm
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
March 08 2014 06:04 GMT
#1451
On March 08 2014 14:52 onlywonderboy wrote:
There's been a lot of backlash over the proposed changes on Twitter, maybe this will be one of the times where Riot responds to the criticism and doesn't go through with the changes.

uhh we all know that never happens.
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
March 08 2014 06:06 GMT
#1452
On March 08 2014 14:56 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 14:32 silencefc wrote:
Man, they could've just lowered Lee's early game power by REDUCING his passive Attack Speed or messing with the AS Slow on E.

or not touch him, he's in a decent state now.


Seems like Riot has made up their minds about nerfing Elise/Lee Sin's early game. That decision doesn't bother me.

What frustrates me is that they're executing it terribly.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
March 08 2014 06:16 GMT
#1453
Changing Lee Sin really bothers me because he just doesn't seem out of control at all. The reasoning behind it is annoying too. He has a unique power curve - that's not ground for change. If every champion in the game had the same power curve it would become boring fast.

Riot keeps homogenizing champions and that's a real problem.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 08 2014 06:19 GMT
#1454
On March 08 2014 15:06 silencefc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 14:56 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 08 2014 14:32 silencefc wrote:
Man, they could've just lowered Lee's early game power by REDUCING his passive Attack Speed or messing with the AS Slow on E.

or not touch him, he's in a decent state now.


Seems like Riot has made up their minds about nerfing Elise/Lee Sin's early game. That decision doesn't bother me.

What frustrates me is that they're executing it terribly.

They would be better hitting elise, because she's actually ridiculous the way she is.
Lee now is fine, also the hit on his tempest/cripple makes his laning more generic not giving him options on what to max first in lane.
liftlift > tsm
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 08 2014 07:17 GMT
#1455
Why change one of the most popular champ in the game? He's balanced and people like to play him.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 08 2014 07:29 GMT
#1456
On March 08 2014 15:16 Swords wrote:
Changing Lee Sin really bothers me because he just doesn't seem out of control at all. The reasoning behind it is annoying too. He has a unique power curve - that's not ground for change. If every champion in the game had the same power curve it would become boring fast.

Riot keeps homogenizing champions and that's a real problem.


how do u sell skins for a champ thats great for only half the game and doesnt scale like every other champ
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 08 2014 07:33 GMT
#1457
On March 08 2014 15:06 silencefc wrote:
Seems like Riot has made up their minds about nerfing Elise/Lee Sin's early game. That decision doesn't bother me.

What frustrates me is that they're executing it terribly.

The fact that they're touching the CHAMPIONS belies the fact that they have zero understanding of WHY Lee and Elise are the strong junglers they are.

Hint: There was a big change to the jungle in 3.14 and many players realized how this affected Lee and Elise on day one. Months later, Riot STILL doesn't understand the effect of that.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 08 2014 07:33 GMT
#1458
I'm waiting till they at least hit the PBE before I start caring. Hell, the proposed MF buffs changed before they even made it to the PBE and then didn't even make it to live.

I expect this of reddit, but seriously TL, calm your tits.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 08 2014 07:36 GMT
#1459
On March 08 2014 16:33 Gahlo wrote:
I'm waiting till they at least hit the PBE before I start caring. Hell, the proposed MF buffs changed before they even made it to the PBE and then didn't even make it to live.

I expect this of reddit, but seriously TL, calm your tits.


But . . . but . . pitchforks?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 07:55:18
March 08 2014 07:50 GMT
#1460
On March 08 2014 16:33 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 15:06 silencefc wrote:
Seems like Riot has made up their minds about nerfing Elise/Lee Sin's early game. That decision doesn't bother me.

What frustrates me is that they're executing it terribly.

The fact that they're touching the CHAMPIONS belies the fact that they have zero understanding of WHY Lee and Elise are the strong junglers they are.

Hint: There was a big change to the jungle in 3.14 and many players realized how this affected Lee and Elise on day one. Months later, Riot STILL doesn't understand the effect of that.

Both those junglers were just as dominant if not more before 3.14 patch.
On March 08 2014 16:33 Gahlo wrote:
I'm waiting till they at least hit the PBE before I start caring. Hell, the proposed MF buffs changed before they even made it to the PBE and then didn't even make it to live.

I expect this of reddit, but seriously TL, calm your tits.

The main problem is that they're even thinking about touching Lee Sin. It would imply they don't like where he's at, which is hilarious because this the mildest Lee Sin has been in the past year.
liftlift > tsm
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