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On March 08 2014 13:41 Dusty wrote: I swear to god, WHAT IS THIS FUCKING LEE SIN "RE-WORK"
they're taking away all of his power and shifting it to bonus attackspeed on his passive
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, gg riot balance team
"lets rape lee sins entire early to mid game for a "slightly better" lategame!" (but not really cause all he gets now is that he attacks faster)
LOLOLOL It's a lot of AS tbh, what if he turns into Jax like lategame?
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On March 08 2014 13:51 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 13:41 Dusty wrote: I swear to god, WHAT IS THIS FUCKING LEE SIN "RE-WORK"
they're taking away all of his power and shifting it to bonus attackspeed on his passive
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, gg riot balance team
"lets rape lee sins entire early to mid game for a "slightly better" lategame!" (but not really cause all he gets now is that he attacks faster)
LOLOLOL It's a lot of AS tbh, what if he turns into Jax like lategame? why not just play jax then
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if it makes me not have to waste one of my precious bans on lee sin, then great good riddance. 90% of diamond mains that champ must be balanced
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On March 08 2014 13:51 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 13:41 Dusty wrote: I swear to god, WHAT IS THIS FUCKING LEE SIN "RE-WORK"
they're taking away all of his power and shifting it to bonus attackspeed on his passive
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, gg riot balance team
"lets rape lee sins entire early to mid game for a "slightly better" lategame!" (but not really cause all he gets now is that he attacks faster)
LOLOLOL It's a lot of AS tbh, what if he turns into Jax like lategame? lol
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I disagree with their two premises (although the first one is somewhat valid, but easily addressed by reventing a shitload of nerfs)
But looks like riot would rather nerf more than admit they overnerf
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On March 08 2014 13:52 IMoperator wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 13:51 wei2coolman wrote:On March 08 2014 13:41 Dusty wrote: I swear to god, WHAT IS THIS FUCKING LEE SIN "RE-WORK"
they're taking away all of his power and shifting it to bonus attackspeed on his passive
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, gg riot balance team
"lets rape lee sins entire early to mid game for a "slightly better" lategame!" (but not really cause all he gets now is that he attacks faster)
LOLOLOL It's a lot of AS tbh, what if he turns into Jax like lategame? why not just play jax then Because then you'd have to play Jax.
blind monks > lantern wielder.
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Man, they could've just lowered Lee's early game power by REDUCING his passive Attack Speed or messing with the AS Slow on E.
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On March 08 2014 12:20 Nos- wrote: 100 energy on safeguard is pretty fucking huge, and the E change probably kills top lee?
Yeah.
I also think them increasing his bonus Attack Speed is horse-shit.
Yeah, just what a melee wants late game, attack speed.
-.-
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United States23745 Posts
There's been a lot of backlash over the proposed changes on Twitter, maybe this will be one of the times where Riot responds to the criticism and doesn't go through with the changes.
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On March 08 2014 14:32 silencefc wrote: Man, they could've just lowered Lee's early game power by REDUCING his passive Attack Speed or messing with the AS Slow on E. or not touch him, he's in a decent state now.
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On March 08 2014 14:52 onlywonderboy wrote: There's been a lot of backlash over the proposed changes on Twitter, maybe this will be one of the times where Riot responds to the criticism and doesn't go through with the changes. uhh we all know that never happens.
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On March 08 2014 14:56 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 14:32 silencefc wrote: Man, they could've just lowered Lee's early game power by REDUCING his passive Attack Speed or messing with the AS Slow on E. or not touch him, he's in a decent state now.
Seems like Riot has made up their minds about nerfing Elise/Lee Sin's early game. That decision doesn't bother me.
What frustrates me is that they're executing it terribly.
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Changing Lee Sin really bothers me because he just doesn't seem out of control at all. The reasoning behind it is annoying too. He has a unique power curve - that's not ground for change. If every champion in the game had the same power curve it would become boring fast.
Riot keeps homogenizing champions and that's a real problem.
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On March 08 2014 15:06 silencefc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 14:56 wei2coolman wrote:On March 08 2014 14:32 silencefc wrote: Man, they could've just lowered Lee's early game power by REDUCING his passive Attack Speed or messing with the AS Slow on E. or not touch him, he's in a decent state now. Seems like Riot has made up their minds about nerfing Elise/Lee Sin's early game. That decision doesn't bother me. What frustrates me is that they're executing it terribly. They would be better hitting elise, because she's actually ridiculous the way she is. Lee now is fine, also the hit on his tempest/cripple makes his laning more generic not giving him options on what to max first in lane.
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Why change one of the most popular champ in the game? He's balanced and people like to play him.
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On March 08 2014 15:16 Swords wrote: Changing Lee Sin really bothers me because he just doesn't seem out of control at all. The reasoning behind it is annoying too. He has a unique power curve - that's not ground for change. If every champion in the game had the same power curve it would become boring fast.
Riot keeps homogenizing champions and that's a real problem.
how do u sell skins for a champ thats great for only half the game and doesnt scale like every other champ
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United States47024 Posts
On March 08 2014 15:06 silencefc wrote: Seems like Riot has made up their minds about nerfing Elise/Lee Sin's early game. That decision doesn't bother me.
What frustrates me is that they're executing it terribly. The fact that they're touching the CHAMPIONS belies the fact that they have zero understanding of WHY Lee and Elise are the strong junglers they are.
Hint: There was a big change to the jungle in 3.14 and many players realized how this affected Lee and Elise on day one. Months later, Riot STILL doesn't understand the effect of that.
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I'm waiting till they at least hit the PBE before I start caring. Hell, the proposed MF buffs changed before they even made it to the PBE and then didn't even make it to live.
I expect this of reddit, but seriously TL, calm your tits.
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On March 08 2014 16:33 Gahlo wrote: I'm waiting till they at least hit the PBE before I start caring. Hell, the proposed MF buffs changed before they even made it to the PBE and then didn't even make it to live.
I expect this of reddit, but seriously TL, calm your tits.
But . . . but . . pitchforks?
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On March 08 2014 16:33 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 15:06 silencefc wrote: Seems like Riot has made up their minds about nerfing Elise/Lee Sin's early game. That decision doesn't bother me.
What frustrates me is that they're executing it terribly. The fact that they're touching the CHAMPIONS belies the fact that they have zero understanding of WHY Lee and Elise are the strong junglers they are. Hint: There was a big change to the jungle in 3.14 and many players realized how this affected Lee and Elise on day one. Months later, Riot STILL doesn't understand the effect of that. Both those junglers were just as dominant if not more before 3.14 patch.
On March 08 2014 16:33 Gahlo wrote: I'm waiting till they at least hit the PBE before I start caring. Hell, the proposed MF buffs changed before they even made it to the PBE and then didn't even make it to live.
I expect this of reddit, but seriously TL, calm your tits. The main problem is that they're even thinking about touching Lee Sin. It would imply they don't like where he's at, which is hilarious because this the mildest Lee Sin has been in the past year.
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