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JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
March 08 2014 01:07 GMT
#1421
On March 08 2014 08:35 Rooster Cogburn wrote:
Thank you! Now I can buy him and woop some peeps who haven't figured out to play against him yet!

Riot has done really well with him IMO. Clear strengths and weaknesses. I
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 01:20:51
March 08 2014 01:20 GMT
#1422
On March 08 2014 06:48 imBLIND wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 06:20 TheYango wrote:
What the fuck does "tier 3 pick" even mean?


I guess a better question is : is there ever a case where you'd want to play ahri over leblanc?

When leblanc is banned
liftlift > tsm
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 02:43:53
March 08 2014 02:43 GMT
#1423
So Riot's been talking about Lee Sin and gave a bunch of specifics with numbers and such: source

I don't really play him but I'm wondering what you folks that do think about the proposed "retune".
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 02:55:15
March 08 2014 02:53 GMT
#1424
I really dont like Riot messing with Lee :/

Though if I'm reading it right, a kick into 4 people does 750 damage + 3.0 Total AD to the kick target, that's pretty stupid damage for a single spell.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 08 2014 03:10 GMT
#1425
RIP Lee Sin Montages
Writer@WriterYamato
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 03:20:18
March 08 2014 03:19 GMT
#1426
Ugh. I hate like almost all of those changes except maybe the w change.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
March 08 2014 03:20 GMT
#1427
100 energy on safeguard is pretty fucking huge, and the E change probably kills top lee?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 08 2014 03:22 GMT
#1428
meh not a fan of the changes. lee is fine as is i think
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 08 2014 03:26 GMT
#1429
Lee's in a good spot right now though... inb4 cheep's rant about how stupid he still is.
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 08 2014 03:27 GMT
#1430
Pretty sure Cheep bitches about anything not Ziggs.
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SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
March 08 2014 03:41 GMT
#1431
needs more nerfs
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
March 08 2014 03:42 GMT
#1432
wukong has no.1 winrate in all of ranked solo queue right now lol, that ult is ridiculous.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
March 08 2014 04:09 GMT
#1433
On March 08 2014 12:27 NeoIllusions wrote:
Pretty sure Cheep bitches about anything not Ziggs.


I only bitch about people with two sets of skills + Fizz.
TranslatorBaa!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 08 2014 04:12 GMT
#1434
On March 08 2014 12:42 IMoperator wrote:
wukong has no.1 winrate in all of ranked solo queue right now lol, that ult is ridiculous.

They really need to remove some of the free pen he gets on his Q. It's silly how much damage he can do with just SotEL and Brutalizer.
liftlift > tsm
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 04:13:57
March 08 2014 04:13 GMT
#1435
dunno, his E Q has low sticking power, he is very heavily ult dependent, you'd want to take power from that if anything

chopping the movement speed boost would be the easiest thing so he can't chase ppl down while spinning
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 08 2014 04:18 GMT
#1436
On March 08 2014 13:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 12:27 NeoIllusions wrote:
Pretty sure Cheep bitches about anything not Ziggs.


I only bitch about people with two sets of skills + Fizz.


What about champions with two passives?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 08 2014 04:19 GMT
#1437
I would prefer just a nerf on his damage.It is pretty retarded,at least reduce his scaling.Other junglers that do that much damage early don't scale that well into late like him.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 08 2014 04:25 GMT
#1438
On March 08 2014 13:13 Slayer91 wrote:
dunno, his E Q has low sticking power, he is very heavily ult dependent, you'd want to take power from that if anything

chopping the movement speed boost would be the easiest thing so he can't chase ppl down while spinning

I don't mind the utility he brings, that's fine. Tons of champs with strong escapes with low CD's. The problem is he can consistently 100-0 the ADC all by his lonesome, which is pretty insane. I guess it's a different approach to balancing, the problem with hitting his utility is that it's pretty easy to hit a threshold where his utility kit just becomes useless (in comparison to other jungler kits).
liftlift > tsm
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 08 2014 04:32 GMT
#1439
for about 7 months I forgot Kennen was a champion. I only remembered him by seeing my friend play him in another game lol..
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 04:42:28
March 08 2014 04:41 GMT
#1440
I swear to god, WHAT IS THIS FUCKING LEE SIN "RE-WORK"

they're taking away all of his power and shifting it to bonus attackspeed on his passive

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, gg riot balance team

"lets rape lee sins entire early to mid game for a "slightly better" lategame!" (but not really cause all he gets now is that he attacks faster)

LOLOLOL
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