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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 27 2014 03:21 GMT
#61
No champion is worth RP buy, hue.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 27 2014 03:25 GMT
#62
What else would I buy with RP, skins?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 27 2014 03:25 GMT
#63
More chicken instead.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 27 2014 03:26 GMT
#64
I have had an extra 7800 ip saved for like a month now.Finally.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 27 2014 03:29 GMT
#65
On February 27 2014 12:25 NeoIllusions wrote:
More chicken instead.


You promised steak but buy chicken.

I see how it is.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
February 27 2014 03:38 GMT
#66
On February 27 2014 12:29 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 12:25 NeoIllusions wrote:
More chicken instead.


You promised steak but buy chicken.

I see how it is.


#ThingsFakerDoToNeo
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
February 27 2014 03:40 GMT
#67
bought sona excited to see how 21-9-0 AP sona with spellthief's edge will work botlane now
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
February 27 2014 03:46 GMT
#68
On February 27 2014 11:06 Sufficiency wrote:
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On February 27 2014 10:00 killerdog wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:59 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:55 wei2coolman wrote:
They should just change the Face of the Mountain active with Ohmwrecker, and remove Ohmwrecker as an item.


I think instead of FotM's active's damage component, make it slow surrounding unit until the shield breaks.

Or make the break a small knockback effect rather then damage. All enemies nearby get knocked back a few hundred units.


I have issues with hard CC on an item though. I think it is awfully unfair for certain champions with channel abilities, even if the CC is delayed. Also it might be anti-synergic when casted on a melee champion.


Then make it a half second root or something, slows are just kind of ineffective as most bruisers have a way of sticking to someone once they've reached them, and ever if they don't have it built into their kit, and the frostfang already does basically the same thing anyway, and it's kind of boring to two items both be slows.

I think all 3 support items need some strong, unique active. Rather then just the equivanelt of someone's q/w/e skill. (I recognize hypocrisy of talisman/sivir but whatever.) Maybe something like giving the target 1s of stealth, or half the damage they take in the next 2-3 seconds gets taken by the support instead, or something like that.

Just having a generic shield + some small damage/cc is just boring, as well as being useless compared to the shurelias.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 27 2014 03:50 GMT
#69
On February 27 2014 12:16 kongoline wrote:
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On February 27 2014 12:11 Sufficiency wrote:
I decided to go Noc only for ranked on my smurf. It'll be fun I hope!

MS quints so expensive though. QQ

now that people are running away from you when feared isnt that big nerf?


I actually don't see it that way. I think if I rotate smartly I can play into my advantage. Anyway, this is just my theorycraft so we will see.

Also, I just lost my first game. I can (and should be able to) carry bronzies, but I played really bad.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 27 2014 03:51 GMT
#70
I wouldn't look at the fear change as a nerf, but more as a preventing it from being RNG. RNG is bad.

Long overdue change imo.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 27 2014 03:52 GMT
#71
On February 27 2014 12:51 Ketara wrote:
I wouldn't look at the fear change as a nerf, but more as a preventing it from being RNG. RNG is bad.

Long overdue change imo.


It might be a nerf to Noc in teamfight when he RQE into someone. But as far as ganking is concerned, I can see the new fear being even advantageous if I go from behind.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 04:00:49
February 27 2014 04:00 GMT
#72
fear change is neutral to noc (need to ult from behind now), buff to shaco and pretty neutral to fiddle (can be good when he ults, can be bad when he drains)
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 27 2014 04:00 GMT
#73
On February 27 2014 09:38 wei2coolman wrote:
Some of my thoughts on changes, posted from last thread.

Corki changes are super nice, BT first will probably be the best build for Corki now.

By super nice you mean irrelevant?

Corki Q still retardedly hard to land. Cd nerf on firing rockets still destroys Corki's dps. Unless they revert some of the last round of nerfs to Corki and/or buff his numbers to some absurd level he's still gonna suck.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 04:11:35
February 27 2014 04:11 GMT
#74
Might be interesting things you can do, like flashing behind the opponent at the last second to make them walk the opposite direction with Nocturne. Well, you should do that anyway because they are likely going to spend their flash trying to get away from tether range and pre-emptively flashing yourself. For Fiddlesticks this might open up new opportunities for plays like causing the enemy ADC to walk towards the turret, hm...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
February 27 2014 04:19 GMT
#75
I don't understand why people think the 'new' frostfang will help sona. her problem was never winning harassment trades. How does any of this help her not get shit on by leona/thresh/annie
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
February 27 2014 04:20 GMT
#76
Don't forget it says that the fear now impairs movement so even if they're walking away from you, they're doing so slowly
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 04:23:48
February 27 2014 04:23 GMT
#77
Didn't fear always impair movement?

On February 27 2014 13:19 Kaneh wrote:
I don't understand why people think the 'new' frostfang will help sona. her problem was never winning harassment trades. How does any of this help her not get shit on by leona/thresh/annie

They are less likely to start doran shield which counters sona hard
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 27 2014 04:36 GMT
#78
Fear has always been able to slow the opponents as well. I'd say it's around 60%?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 27 2014 04:40 GMT
#79
On February 27 2014 13:00 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:38 wei2coolman wrote:
Some of my thoughts on changes, posted from last thread.

Corki changes are super nice, BT first will probably be the best build for Corki now.

By super nice you mean irrelevant?

Corki Q still retardedly hard to land. Cd nerf on firing rockets still destroys Corki's dps. Unless they revert some of the last round of nerfs to Corki and/or buff his numbers to some absurd level he's still gonna suck.


Corki needs more changes to differentiate him from Lucian now IMO.
Freeeeeeedom
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 27 2014 04:42 GMT
#80
Team 8 looking really good in NACL, best amateur team in a long time. They've even managed to integrate the ultimate all hands no brain wildchild californialols
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