On February 27 2014 19:17 GolemMadness wrote: You guys think ruby crystal + 2 pots will be a good start on Nasus now? You miss out on the block, but will help out with build paths and item spacing.
Probably no. You can sometimes start with longsword because you want a vamp scepter asap. Ruby crystal does not really build into anything immediately useful except a sightstone.
I think it could be good against an AP opponent, as you could build it into spectre's cowl pretty fast. Against an AD opponent, probably not so much.
On February 28 2014 06:11 Haiq343 wrote: League has all kinds of wonky things where the ease of murdering someone hopelessly is totally out of whack with the difficulty of avoiding said murdering. Teemo's shrooms as currently constructed fall very much into this problem area, hence the nerf.
Then, in my opinion, riot needs to look at all skills the champ has, the reasoning should be something like this : teemo shrooms are a problematic mechanic at the moment but teemo isn't strong enough to be nerfed, what skill could be boosted if we nerf his shrooms ?
I'll give you an example, take a good look at teemo's W, do you really think a skill that makes you just run a bit faster is a good skill ? A passive speed boost that gets disabled when you get hit and an active that just gives you speed and nothing else ? Compare it to say .... shyvana's burnout. One is just flat out stronger than the other.
Teemo's shrooms are strong right now because the rest of his kit and base stats are just very weak, he's in the category of old champions that are VERY GOOD at something but extremely shitty at the rest, just like warwick, poppy and a few others.
Mostly correct. I think they just looked at the situation, and I hate to use the word, but Teemo was "unfun". Sure crowds laugh and cheer for a Teemo, but opponents rage because his entire kit is unfun to play against.
Probably they should just change his passive to let him get some sort of MS when leaving stealth just for "compensation", but really Teemo is hilarious and should probably always be bad. Like Middlesticks.
I don't think this debate is going to go anywhere. People just have different opinions about what level of play the game should be balanced for. This seems like one of those times where this is most apparent.
On February 28 2014 06:14 RouaF wrote: I just don't see how a champ can be nerfed if he's not good enough to see at least some picks in pro play. It's not like teemo is some kind of heavy snowballer with resets 1v5'ing noobs yi style.
I might be the only one to think that way but you will have to provide strong arguments to make me change my mind.
Apparently he gets picked in SEA and that one TSM v C9 game.
Please... go look that tsm vs c9 game again, teemo didn't do anything, hai could have picked any champion the result would have been the same. I have no idea if sea is strong or not but it seems like teemo was picked as the AD there. Do you have a link to more than one SEA game where teemo crushed the enemy team with late game shrooms ?
Let's be honest, teemo was nerfed because riot doesn't want him to be even close to viable and because there is a strong anti-teemo community (I can't count the number of times I've been insulted by my opponents just because I played teemo, hell, sometimes they even insult me if they're winning) he's supposed to be the mascot of the game not the FOTM champ. Meanwhile, gragas ult gets a 0,1 ap nerf ........ HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE :D
I think we can all agree that his kit is frustrating in a way that I doubt even Riot likes, so we should be discussing how to change that kit. Straight buff/nerf debate doesn't solve the problem of the champion.
On February 28 2014 06:14 RouaF wrote: I just don't see how a champ can be nerfed if he's not good enough to see at least some picks in pro play. It's not like teemo is some kind of heavy snowballer with resets 1v5'ing noobs yi style.
I might be the only one to think that way but you will have to provide strong arguments to make me change my mind.
Apparently he gets picked in SEA and that one TSM v C9 game.
... Meanwhile, gragas ult gets a 0,1 ap nerf ........ HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE :D
On February 28 2014 05:21 IMoperator wrote: im glad they dont buff gangplank because champs that are easy as fuck to play shouldnt ever be competitive imo.
On February 15 2014 20:07 IMoperator wrote: i hate how this game is so team reliant. there's no reason for me to be in the same elo as some of these idiots lol.
On February 27 2014 10:11 IMoperator wrote: ok how do you carry as adc in solo queue? it seems like the game 100% depends on if your mid/top/jung wins or not, and you have no control over anything unless you get stupidly fed. how do people like wildturtle and them all rank up fast? do they just duo?
On February 28 2014 05:21 IMoperator wrote: im glad they dont buff gangplank because champs that are easy as fuck to play shouldnt ever be competitive imo.
On February 28 2014 06:31 onlywonderboy wrote: I don't think this debate is going to go anywhere. People just have different opinions about what level of play the game should be balanced for. This seems like one of those times where this is most apparent.
It doesn't matter what level it should be balanced for, it's going to be balanced in such a way that Riot pleases the most people. Which means solo queue first, competitive secondary. Be lucky they care so much about esports, it wouldn't be competitive at all in any other game.
On February 28 2014 05:21 IMoperator wrote: im glad they dont buff gangplank because champs that are easy as fuck to play shouldnt ever be competitive imo.
On February 13 2014 08:51 IMoperator wrote: Why was gragas not nerfed? he's such a ridiculous fucking champion.
On February 15 2014 20:07 IMoperator wrote: i hate how this game is so team reliant. there's no reason for me to be in the same elo as some of these idiots lol.
On February 21 2014 07:38 IMoperator wrote: how long until wukong's ult gets nerfed? or his passive?
On February 27 2014 07:46 IMoperator wrote: pls more gragas nerfs thanks riot.
On February 27 2014 07:04 IMoperator wrote: also nerf panth ult cd pls
On February 27 2014 10:11 IMoperator wrote: ok how do you carry as adc in solo queue? it seems like the game 100% depends on if your mid/top/jung wins or not, and you have no control over anything unless you get stupidly fed. how do people like wildturtle and them all rank up fast? do they just duo?
On February 28 2014 05:21 IMoperator wrote: im glad they dont buff gangplank because champs that are easy as fuck to play shouldnt ever be competitive imo.
On February 28 2014 06:03 IMoperator wrote: man who cares if teemo got nerfed it was annoying to play against him good riddance
lol
Oh Roffles.
Never change.
iono about u but holy shit this was funny to read the list
Anyway, gangplank is cool guy pirate and is fun to screw around with in botlane. Leona's do eq dive at lvl 2 and punishment is given by pirate. Should never work with good players(I think) but people don't give him the respect he deserves gets bonked.
On February 28 2014 06:14 RouaF wrote: I just don't see how a champ can be nerfed if he's not good enough to see at least some picks in pro play. It's not like teemo is some kind of heavy snowballer with resets 1v5'ing noobs yi style.
I might be the only one to think that way but you will have to provide strong arguments to make me change my mind.
Apparently he gets picked in SEA and that one TSM v C9 game.
Please... go look that tsm vs c9 game again, teemo didn't do anything, hai could have picked any champion the result would have been the same. I have no idea if sea is strong or not but it seems like teemo was picked as the AD there. Do you have a link to more than one SEA game where teemo crushed the enemy team with late game shrooms ?
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