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On February 28 2014 05:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
they can nerf shrooms all they want, its not the AP ratio that makes him good. as long as you can shroom baron with no penalty and then get a free baron whenever you want really early he will still be annoying to play against. not like people go for high AP items on him anyway, its mostly liandry's and morellonomicon and shit like that
Well...it's big part of the problem, late game shrooms are terror because of ward nerfs. He's still super annoying but this helps it.
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When will they buff gangplank?
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On February 28 2014 05:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
they can nerf shrooms all they want, its not the AP ratio that makes him good. as long as you can shroom baron with no penalty and then get a free baron whenever you want really early he will still be annoying to play against. not like people go for high AP items on him anyway, its mostly liandry's and morellonomicon and shit like that
Yeah. Teemo shrooms scale with Liandry's and pen basically, the rest is just gravy in addition to his Q burst.
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On February 28 2014 05:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
they can nerf shrooms all they want, its not the AP ratio that makes him good. as long as you can shroom baron with no penalty and then get a free baron whenever you want really early he will still be annoying to play against. not like people go for high AP items on him anyway, its mostly liandry's and morellonomicon and shit like that
It's still a huge damage reduction. Teemo is barely viable at the moment, he has seen 0 competitive play for a reason. Yes he can be annoying to play against in certain situations, he's a niche pick, most of the time it doesn't work.
Mushrooms are basically the only strong thing he has left and they get a big nerf with 0 compensation, I'd rather see nerfs on champions that are picked banned 80%+ of the time in competitive play because they have really proved that they were too strong too often.
And please don't pull out the "but riot also balances for bronze/silver" argument. If that were the case, malphite amumu and yi would be nerfed every patch.
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On February 28 2014 05:10 lefty wrote:
When will they buff gangplank?
They said in a news post a couple months ago he's on the rework schedule.
He's one champion on their rework schedule that I think legitimately needs it, his E doesn't have synergy with the rest of his kit in any sensible way.
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GP's E is just a crap version of Sivir/Taric ult
Which is to say that if you had a team with Sivir and/or Taric with him you could hard engage/ wimp out all day. In theory.
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I don't think dshield nerf will accomplish anything in terms of increasing champ diversity. Dshield IMO needs like a regain 1 mana every time you take a hit passive. One thing that separates a lot of the manaless melees from mana based is that a lot of the manaless ones can push the lane and harass at the same time relatively easily, and a lot of the mana based don't have ways to constantly harass without taking creep aggro, and need to choose between wave management and harass because of the limited resources.
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United States15536 Posts
On February 28 2014 05:10 lefty wrote:
When will they buff gangplank?
When pirates > ninjas.
So never.
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im glad they dont buff gangplank because champs that are easy as fuck to play shouldnt ever be competitive imo.
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On February 28 2014 05:12 RouaF wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
they can nerf shrooms all they want, its not the AP ratio that makes him good. as long as you can shroom baron with no penalty and then get a free baron whenever you want really early he will still be annoying to play against. not like people go for high AP items on him anyway, its mostly liandry's and morellonomicon and shit like that It's still a huge damage reduction. Teemo is barely viable at the moment, he has seen 0 competitive play for a reason. Yes he can be annoying to play against in certain situations, he's a niche pick, most of the time it doesn't work. Mushrooms are basically the only strong thing he has left and they get a big nerf with 0 compensation, I'd rather see nerfs on champions that are picked banned 80%+ of the time in competitive play because they have really proved that they were too strong too often. And please don't pull out the "but riot also balances for bronze/silver" argument. If that were the case, malphite amumu and yi would be nerfed every patch.
its not a bronze/silver nerf but it isn't competitive either obviously. Teemo is extremely popular in high diamond but probably wont be picked as much after these nerfs. He even gets banned occasionally
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On February 28 2014 05:21 IMoperator wrote:
im glad they dont buff gangplank because champs that are easy as fuck to play shouldnt ever be competitive imo.
Lol
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They seriously are nerfing kassas dmg? remind me of a video where bjergsen talked about nerfing kassa.
Seems like they want to give kassa something like 100 base damage on his skills to balance him lol
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United States23745 Posts
In the patch notes it specifically says this is just a band aid fix before they implement more drastic changes.
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On February 28 2014 05:15 Ketara wrote:They said in a news post a couple months ago he's on the rework schedule. He's one champion on their rework schedule that I think legitimately needs it, his E doesn't have synergy with the rest of his kit in any sensible way.
A melee champion with a stackable on-hit passive that slows doesn't benefit from increased runspeed?
Yeah, no melees want run speed...
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On February 28 2014 05:25 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:21 IMoperator wrote:
im glad they dont buff gangplank because champs that are easy as fuck to play shouldnt ever be competitive imo. Lol
Times like this I wish I had a Mundo named alt account so I could just hurl a cleaver and shout "MUNDO TAKE MOST SKILL TO MUNDO!"
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On February 28 2014 05:30 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:15 Ketara wrote:On February 28 2014 05:10 lefty wrote:
When will they buff gangplank? They said in a news post a couple months ago he's on the rework schedule. He's one champion on their rework schedule that I think legitimately needs it, his E doesn't have synergy with the rest of his kit in any sensible way. A melee champion with a stackable on-hit passive that slows doesn't benefit from increased runspeed? Yeah, no melees want run speed...
A champion whose kit revolves around split pushing in a solo lane shouldn't have an ability that buffs nearby allied champions. Either that or his R shouldn't be global, and they stated that they're keeping his R as is.
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On February 28 2014 05:33 Parnage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:25 Roffles wrote:On February 28 2014 05:21 IMoperator wrote:
im glad they dont buff gangplank because champs that are easy as fuck to play shouldnt ever be competitive imo. Lol Times like this I wish I had a Mundo named alt account so I could just hurl a cleaver and shout "MUNDO TAKE MOST SKILL TO MUNDO!"
I have a Nunu alt called The Yeti Does It All.
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On February 28 2014 05:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
In the patch notes it specifically says this is just a band aid fix before they implement more drastic changes.
Shhhh, you know people like to rage-post before finishing an entire paragraph. Their enraged thoughts are the most important thing and they must tell the world before it's too late!
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On February 28 2014 05:25 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:21 IMoperator wrote:
im glad they dont buff gangplank because champs that are easy as fuck to play shouldnt ever be competitive imo. Lol
whatchu loling at?
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On February 28 2014 05:41 IMoperator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 05:25 Roffles wrote:On February 28 2014 05:21 IMoperator wrote:
im glad they dont buff gangplank because champs that are easy as fuck to play shouldnt ever be competitive imo. Lol whatchu loling at?
Probably the fact that whenever you post its a bunch of crap in a really aggressive manner. I mean you were shouting at people in offtopic yesterday for being friends. lol.
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