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United States15536 Posts
On February 28 2014 01:58 Terranasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 01:44 YouGotNothin wrote:On February 28 2014 01:04 Sandster wrote:
Vi doesn't proc sheen? What?? She's got a double gap closer and a double auto reset, all of which proc sheen. Her full damage combo is Q/R -> auto -> E reset auto -> Q/R -> auto -> E reset auto. What more can you ask for?
BC/Triforce are both good items are her, but Triforce is absolutely the way to go if you get fed early. With Elder Lizard and Triforce she will 100-0 a squishy for a large part of the game, and Triforce means her sustained damage is quite high as well in smaller skirmishes. It absolutely SUCKS playing against a fed Triforce Vi since you know she'll use a 1500 range gap closer while ignoring cc to immediately kill you. Yes it is a lot of damage if she does it optimally and gets all 4 sheen procs off, but that also requires good timing and waiting for the cool downs on sheen which makes it less bursty. Her sustained ability to use sheen is lacking compared to champs that have Triforce as their core like Jax. Maybe I will do some math on this later, but Triforce is just so expensive and provides such little tankiness/AD and no CDR, I would rather just get a Brutalizer and a Giants Belt + Wardens Mail instead. Confirmed. TriForce Vi Best Vi
If we're going to talk about Triforce Vi, y'all could at least say Viforce like good and proper gentlemen.
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On February 28 2014 01:44 YouGotNothin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 01:04 Sandster wrote:
Vi doesn't proc sheen? What?? She's got a double gap closer and a double auto reset, all of which proc sheen. Her full damage combo is Q/R -> auto -> E reset auto -> Q/R -> auto -> E reset auto. What more can you ask for?
BC/Triforce are both good items are her, but Triforce is absolutely the way to go if you get fed early. With Elder Lizard and Triforce she will 100-0 a squishy for a large part of the game, and Triforce means her sustained damage is quite high as well in smaller skirmishes. It absolutely SUCKS playing against a fed Triforce Vi since you know she'll use a 1500 range gap closer while ignoring cc to immediately kill you. Yes it is a lot of damage if she does it optimally and gets all 4 sheen procs off, but that also requires good timing and waiting for the cool downs on sheen which makes it less bursty. Her sustained ability to use sheen is lacking compared to champs that have Triforce as their core like Jax. Maybe I will do some math on this later, but Triforce is just so expensive and provides such little tankiness/AD and no CDR, I would rather just get a Brutalizer and a Giants Belt + Wardens Mail instead.
It would be 2 sheen procs (the autos after the Q/R). E just gives you a way to proc it as needed. Waiting for sheen internal cd is generally a bad idea.
The point of triforce is to dive and burst, which it does better for Vi than any other item in the game. I agree Lizard Elder + Brutalizer + defense is more efficient in an even game. But Triforce really shines when you are having lots of skirmishes and picks, since Vi does has some innate tankiness with her shield. It's not my playstyle but it does work.
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triforce shines when you get farmed and run around solo killing bads while flexing your enormous muscles
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Garen is so good at little skirmishes, waiting for some passive regen + W cooldown, and going back in.
Plus he doesn't go oom contrary to Vi (she's got pretty tame costs, but given how well her kit lends itself to skirmishes and how extended fights post-16 can lead to her getting a second pick off when her ult comes off cd, she can burn through her pool really quickly using Q to reengage once her passive is ready; removing the mp5 from spirit stone makes a big difference when she isn't farming). :3
v do you turn the sound off when playing? She pronounces it herself in her quotes.
(Also theme song.)
(Also LCS casts.)
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On February 28 2014 01:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 01:58 Terranasaur wrote:On February 28 2014 01:44 YouGotNothin wrote:On February 28 2014 01:04 Sandster wrote:
Vi doesn't proc sheen? What?? She's got a double gap closer and a double auto reset, all of which proc sheen. Her full damage combo is Q/R -> auto -> E reset auto -> Q/R -> auto -> E reset auto. What more can you ask for?
BC/Triforce are both good items are her, but Triforce is absolutely the way to go if you get fed early. With Elder Lizard and Triforce she will 100-0 a squishy for a large part of the game, and Triforce means her sustained damage is quite high as well in smaller skirmishes. It absolutely SUCKS playing against a fed Triforce Vi since you know she'll use a 1500 range gap closer while ignoring cc to immediately kill you. Yes it is a lot of damage if she does it optimally and gets all 4 sheen procs off, but that also requires good timing and waiting for the cool downs on sheen which makes it less bursty. Her sustained ability to use sheen is lacking compared to champs that have Triforce as their core like Jax. Maybe I will do some math on this later, but Triforce is just so expensive and provides such little tankiness/AD and no CDR, I would rather just get a Brutalizer and a Giants Belt + Wardens Mail instead. Confirmed. TriForce Vi Best Vi If we're going to talk about Triforce Vi, y'all could at least say Viforce like good and proper gentlemen.
Do pronounce Vi so that it rhymes with Tri?
I always pronounce it so that it rhymes with Free?
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On February 28 2014 01:42 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 01:40 cLutZ wrote:
I think your team is missing the XDG botlane. The problem is xmithie tends to do mediocre and not really die, tabzz on the other hand uncontrollably feeds in most alliance matches which makes him more valuable. On the other hand with zoonie/sheep it is possible that they will find a way to die more than tabzz/nyph I'll have to wait until this week. Xpeke/mancloud may be more suitable replacements for moopz but you run the risk of them actually playing well again and getting an absurd score, moopz is just mediocre in SHC wins and gets rekt in SHC losses so he's a safter choice for minimising points
XDG announced this week Zuna is back in at adc with newguy SHEEP support. Xmithie restored to his rightful throne.
Edit: Derp, didn't read your whole comment.
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Baa?21245 Posts
On February 28 2014 02:09 Terranasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 01:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 28 2014 01:58 Terranasaur wrote:On February 28 2014 01:44 YouGotNothin wrote:On February 28 2014 01:04 Sandster wrote:
Vi doesn't proc sheen? What?? She's got a double gap closer and a double auto reset, all of which proc sheen. Her full damage combo is Q/R -> auto -> E reset auto -> Q/R -> auto -> E reset auto. What more can you ask for?
BC/Triforce are both good items are her, but Triforce is absolutely the way to go if you get fed early. With Elder Lizard and Triforce she will 100-0 a squishy for a large part of the game, and Triforce means her sustained damage is quite high as well in smaller skirmishes. It absolutely SUCKS playing against a fed Triforce Vi since you know she'll use a 1500 range gap closer while ignoring cc to immediately kill you. Yes it is a lot of damage if she does it optimally and gets all 4 sheen procs off, but that also requires good timing and waiting for the cool downs on sheen which makes it less bursty. Her sustained ability to use sheen is lacking compared to champs that have Triforce as their core like Jax. Maybe I will do some math on this later, but Triforce is just so expensive and provides such little tankiness/AD and no CDR, I would rather just get a Brutalizer and a Giants Belt + Wardens Mail instead. Confirmed. TriForce Vi Best Vi If we're going to talk about Triforce Vi, y'all could at least say Viforce like good and proper gentlemen. Do pronounce Vi so that it rhymes with Tri? I always pronounce it so that it rhymes with Free?
Have you ever played Vi she says her own name lol. It rhymes with "try."
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Triforce on junglers is hilarious, but the item itself feels so freaking expensive.
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United States15536 Posts
On February 28 2014 02:09 Terranasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 01:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 28 2014 01:58 Terranasaur wrote:On February 28 2014 01:44 YouGotNothin wrote:On February 28 2014 01:04 Sandster wrote:
Vi doesn't proc sheen? What?? She's got a double gap closer and a double auto reset, all of which proc sheen. Her full damage combo is Q/R -> auto -> E reset auto -> Q/R -> auto -> E reset auto. What more can you ask for?
BC/Triforce are both good items are her, but Triforce is absolutely the way to go if you get fed early. With Elder Lizard and Triforce she will 100-0 a squishy for a large part of the game, and Triforce means her sustained damage is quite high as well in smaller skirmishes. It absolutely SUCKS playing against a fed Triforce Vi since you know she'll use a 1500 range gap closer while ignoring cc to immediately kill you. Yes it is a lot of damage if she does it optimally and gets all 4 sheen procs off, but that also requires good timing and waiting for the cool downs on sheen which makes it less bursty. Her sustained ability to use sheen is lacking compared to champs that have Triforce as their core like Jax. Maybe I will do some math on this later, but Triforce is just so expensive and provides such little tankiness/AD and no CDR, I would rather just get a Brutalizer and a Giants Belt + Wardens Mail instead. Confirmed. TriForce Vi Best Vi If we're going to talk about Triforce Vi, y'all could at least say Viforce like good and proper gentlemen. Do pronounce Vi so that it rhymes with Tri? I always pronounce it so that it rhymes with Free?
w8 wat
Tri is usually pronounced like "try" because it's a prefix meaning three. Other examples like "triad" and whatever. Thus "Tri-" and "Vi" rhyme.
It's not Treeforce. 
Edit: Or what Cheep said.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On February 28 2014 02:09 Terranasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 01:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 28 2014 01:58 Terranasaur wrote:On February 28 2014 01:44 YouGotNothin wrote:On February 28 2014 01:04 Sandster wrote:
Vi doesn't proc sheen? What?? She's got a double gap closer and a double auto reset, all of which proc sheen. Her full damage combo is Q/R -> auto -> E reset auto -> Q/R -> auto -> E reset auto. What more can you ask for?
BC/Triforce are both good items are her, but Triforce is absolutely the way to go if you get fed early. With Elder Lizard and Triforce she will 100-0 a squishy for a large part of the game, and Triforce means her sustained damage is quite high as well in smaller skirmishes. It absolutely SUCKS playing against a fed Triforce Vi since you know she'll use a 1500 range gap closer while ignoring cc to immediately kill you. Yes it is a lot of damage if she does it optimally and gets all 4 sheen procs off, but that also requires good timing and waiting for the cool downs on sheen which makes it less bursty. Her sustained ability to use sheen is lacking compared to champs that have Triforce as their core like Jax. Maybe I will do some math on this later, but Triforce is just so expensive and provides such little tankiness/AD and no CDR, I would rather just get a Brutalizer and a Giants Belt + Wardens Mail instead. Confirmed. TriForce Vi Best Vi If we're going to talk about Triforce Vi, y'all could at least say Viforce like good and proper gentlemen. Do pronounce Vi so that it rhymes with Tri? I always pronounce it so that it rhymes with Free?
I mean, Vi herself pronounces it as Vi to rhyme with "eye".
Speaking of which, it is always fun to carry as Vi because her in-game quotes perfectly fit what you're doing. "I'm my own backup." "Plan? I don't need a plan." "Here I come to save the day ... or wreck it."
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vuh-eye in one syllable
truh-eye in one syllable
you might be thinking Vee
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no uh in either of those words.
Vel koz scares me. big eye  Every fucking night i have +100 ping on league now. starting to piss me off.
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trinity is bad in theory on vi, but as often occurs with melees is that in theory is oversimplification of your damage calculations
although technically your spells have good AD scaling and you expect to auto a lot it turns out the mobility from trinity lets you hit your shit a lot more including autos, and the sheen proc is often as good as the better AD ratios especally on squishy targets who kite you and would die in a few autos if they dont
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english so silly language, have to discuss how to pronounce something all the time.
How did that even happen, the latin alphabet assigns each letter s specific sound in like all other languages.
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Because English is the bastard son of German and French.
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and they're like polar opposites
french is like a cat purring through velvet and german is like a frothy dog barking with a mouth full of sad cat's innards
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Baa?21245 Posts
On February 28 2014 02:17 LaNague wrote:
english so silly language, have to discuss how to pronounce something all the time.
How did that even happen, the latin alphabet assigns each letter s specific sound in like all other languages.
English is not a Romance language, despite the usage of the Latin alphabet ~_~
Also we don't actually know how Classical Latin was pronounced, and Latin pronunciation has changed a lot over the centuries
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On February 28 2014 02:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 02:09 Terranasaur wrote:On February 28 2014 01:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 28 2014 01:58 Terranasaur wrote:On February 28 2014 01:44 YouGotNothin wrote:On February 28 2014 01:04 Sandster wrote:
Vi doesn't proc sheen? What?? She's got a double gap closer and a double auto reset, all of which proc sheen. Her full damage combo is Q/R -> auto -> E reset auto -> Q/R -> auto -> E reset auto. What more can you ask for?
BC/Triforce are both good items are her, but Triforce is absolutely the way to go if you get fed early. With Elder Lizard and Triforce she will 100-0 a squishy for a large part of the game, and Triforce means her sustained damage is quite high as well in smaller skirmishes. It absolutely SUCKS playing against a fed Triforce Vi since you know she'll use a 1500 range gap closer while ignoring cc to immediately kill you. Yes it is a lot of damage if she does it optimally and gets all 4 sheen procs off, but that also requires good timing and waiting for the cool downs on sheen which makes it less bursty. Her sustained ability to use sheen is lacking compared to champs that have Triforce as their core like Jax. Maybe I will do some math on this later, but Triforce is just so expensive and provides such little tankiness/AD and no CDR, I would rather just get a Brutalizer and a Giants Belt + Wardens Mail instead. Confirmed. TriForce Vi Best Vi If we're going to talk about Triforce Vi, y'all could at least say Viforce like good and proper gentlemen. Do pronounce Vi so that it rhymes with Tri? I always pronounce it so that it rhymes with Free? Have you ever played Vi she says her own name lol. It rhymes with "try."
I literally only ever play with the sound off. I've never even heard Teemo Laugh.
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vi+trinity force
virginity force
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On February 28 2014 02:32 Slayer91 wrote:
vi+trinity force
virginity force
Where did the G come from?
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EPT
