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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 17:46:58
February 27 2014 17:40 GMT
#181
the alphabet
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 27 2014 17:45 GMT
#182
On February 28 2014 02:40 Slayer91 wrote:
your moms vagina

Stay classy Teut.
liftlift > tsm
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 27 2014 17:47 GMT
#183
stop trying to get me banned pls i nevre said that wtf
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 27 2014 17:48 GMT
#184
On February 28 2014 02:47 Slayer91 wrote:
stop trying to get me banned pls i nevre said that wtf


Reported anyway. GGGGGGGGG
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
February 27 2014 17:50 GMT
#185
that edit tho
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 18:35:30
February 27 2014 18:35 GMT
#186
On February 28 2014 02:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 02:32 Slayer91 wrote:
vi+trinity force
virginity force

Where did the G come from?


PhaGe

hue
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
February 27 2014 19:00 GMT
#187
Does anyone have any insight or predictions on how the Doran's Shield nerf is going to/has changed top lane?

Do you guys still start shield or do you start something else? Are we going to see less of Mundo, Shyvanna and Renekton and more of anybody else?

I think with the shield change we might see more champions up top lane who have mana pools instead of seeing manaless champions all the time. I also think someone in this thread here said that the shield change was going to buff the Lane bullies and nerf the champions who have slow start up times before they become powerful.

I know it's a little early to tell but I wanted to see if anyone had thoughts about this subject.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
February 27 2014 19:03 GMT
#188
XJ9 buys botrk on vi
just saying
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 19:11:24
February 27 2014 19:09 GMT
#189
So I figured out roughly how the new fear works, forgive me if you heard this already.

Basically the closer you are to the feared target the faster they will run from you, starting at about a 17% slow when up close and strengthening to a really strong slow (at least 65%) when they're far. So if you run with your target they will run farther, if you run away from your target they won't run nearly as far. With Fiddle's fear this change takes place over a much longer distance than Nocturne's, the distance is similar to the range of their fears.

IDK, while with Fid this might be a bit of a wash (since he has a long range fear and could feasibly flank with it in a gank or send someone into a turret) I think overall this nerfs nocturne, especially since ult places you on the near side of your target. I remember when nocturne fear RNGed an opponent to continue retreated his ganks felt a lot weaker and this almost guarantees that.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 27 2014 19:22 GMT
#190
On February 28 2014 04:00 Frudgey wrote:
Does anyone have any insight or predictions on how the Doran's Shield nerf is going to/has changed top lane?

Do you guys still start shield or do you start something else? Are we going to see less of Mundo, Shyvanna and Renekton and more of anybody else?

I think with the shield change we might see more champions up top lane who have mana pools instead of seeing manaless champions all the time. I also think someone in this thread here said that the shield change was going to buff the Lane bullies and nerf the champions who have slow start up times before they become powerful.

I know it's a little early to tell but I wanted to see if anyone had thoughts about this subject.


Why would this shift the meta away from manaless toplane champions? It makes Renekton even stronger because Jax, or Nasus would get trucked even harder in the earlygame.
Freeeeeeedom
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 19:30:49
February 27 2014 19:25 GMT
#191
On February 28 2014 04:22 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 04:00 Frudgey wrote:
Does anyone have any insight or predictions on how the Doran's Shield nerf is going to/has changed top lane?

Do you guys still start shield or do you start something else? Are we going to see less of Mundo, Shyvanna and Renekton and more of anybody else?

I think with the shield change we might see more champions up top lane who have mana pools instead of seeing manaless champions all the time. I also think someone in this thread here said that the shield change was going to buff the Lane bullies and nerf the champions who have slow start up times before they become powerful.

I know it's a little early to tell but I wanted to see if anyone had thoughts about this subject.


Why would this shift the meta away from manaless toplane champions? It makes Renekton even stronger because Jax, or Nasus would get trucked even harder in the earlygame.

I mean, I don't know if this will shift the meta at all. I don't consider myself "League-Smart" so that's why I figured I'd ask the people on the forum who know considerably more than I do.

The reason why I think that we might possibly see more mana based champions top lane is for the reason that damage should stick to the enemy champion more easily now. So instead of trying to spend mana trying to bully someone out of lane and then just merely running oom, I thought there might be the possibility now that it might be easier to force people out of lane while not running out of mana as the Doran's Shield became weaker.

Just my thoughts.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
February 27 2014 19:27 GMT
#192
If the Doran Shield change is big enough in Top lane then they can also just switch to Doran's Blade instead. Dont think there are any top laners who are "good" atm that really need the shield
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 19:34:37
February 27 2014 19:32 GMT
#193
On February 28 2014 04:25 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 04:22 cLutZ wrote:
On February 28 2014 04:00 Frudgey wrote:
Does anyone have any insight or predictions on how the Doran's Shield nerf is going to/has changed top lane?

Do you guys still start shield or do you start something else? Are we going to see less of Mundo, Shyvanna and Renekton and more of anybody else?

I think with the shield change we might see more champions up top lane who have mana pools instead of seeing manaless champions all the time. I also think someone in this thread here said that the shield change was going to buff the Lane bullies and nerf the champions who have slow start up times before they become powerful.

I know it's a little early to tell but I wanted to see if anyone had thoughts about this subject.


Why would this shift the meta away from manaless toplane champions? It makes Renekton even stronger because Jax, or Nasus would get trucked even harder in the earlygame.

I mean, I don't know if this will shift the meta at all. I don't consider myself "League-Smart" so that's why I figured I'd ask the people on the forum who know considerably more than I do.

The reason why I think that we might possibly see more mana based champions top lane is for the reason that damage should stick to the enemy champion more easily now. So instead of trying to spend mana trying to bully someone out of lane and then just merely running oom, I thought there might be the possibility now that it might be easier to force people out of lane while not running out of mana as the Doran's Shield became weaker.

Just my thoughts.

odds are you know just as much as most of us, you just have the courtesy to note your own uncertainty by asking questions rather than asserting everything

with regards to the dorans shield nerf, i'm most interested to see what the impact on starting item diversity will be, which of course will change champion viability. the cloth+pots start that was edged out by shield is probably worth considering now, and champions with strong early games who previously defaulted to shield could start blade. a change this big will definitely take a few weeks to be fully worked through, though, so these are tentative thoughts

actually, one thing i am fairly confident in saying is that mundo is no more
Sarah Bryant
Profile Joined January 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
February 27 2014 19:35 GMT
#194
Wow this hatred

http://i.imgur.com/N9qih70.png

But after lee sin and viegy on ogn, you know what's next.
Pumpkins!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 27 2014 19:38 GMT
#195
On February 28 2014 04:09 phyvo wrote:
So I figured out roughly how the new fear works, forgive me if you heard this already.

Basically the closer you are to the feared target the faster they will run from you, starting at about a 17% slow when up close and strengthening to a really strong slow (at least 65%) when they're far. So if you run with your target they will run farther, if you run away from your target they won't run nearly as far. With Fiddle's fear this change takes place over a much longer distance than Nocturne's, the distance is similar to the range of their fears.

IDK, while with Fid this might be a bit of a wash (since he has a long range fear and could feasibly flank with it in a gank or send someone into a turret) I think overall this nerfs nocturne, especially since ult places you on the near side of your target. I remember when nocturne fear RNGed an opponent to continue retreated his ganks felt a lot weaker and this almost guarantees that.


The change is really poor. I understand what they trying to do by removing the RNG but it's just a straight nerf to these heroes for no real reason.
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
February 27 2014 19:49 GMT
#196
On February 28 2014 02:45 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 02:40 Slayer91 wrote:
your moms vagina

Stay classy Teut.


Rofl.

Vel'Koz ult is ridiculous if not only for the animation. So cool i feel like a 3 yr old again D:
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 27 2014 19:55 GMT
#197
Thresh is still a dumb champion, FYI.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
February 27 2014 19:55 GMT
#198
On February 28 2014 04:00 Frudgey wrote:
Does anyone have any insight or predictions on how the Doran's Shield nerf is going to/has changed top lane?

Do you guys still start shield or do you start something else? Are we going to see less of Mundo, Shyvanna and Renekton and more of anybody else?

I think with the shield change we might see more champions up top lane who have mana pools instead of seeing manaless champions all the time. I also think someone in this thread here said that the shield change was going to buff the Lane bullies and nerf the champions who have slow start up times before they become powerful.

I know it's a little early to tell but I wanted to see if anyone had thoughts about this subject.

It's pretty good for teemo top but since shrooms were nerfed to the ground I'm not sure if that matters... Kennen might make a comeback though.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 27 2014 20:00 GMT
#199
they can nerf shrooms all they want, its not the AP ratio that makes him good. as long as you can shroom baron with no penalty and then get a free baron whenever you want really early he will still be annoying to play against. not like people go for high AP items on him anyway, its mostly liandry's and morellonomicon and shit like that
I come in for the scraps
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 27 2014 20:06 GMT
#200
On February 27 2014 23:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 22:42 Gahlo wrote:
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4303058
So good.


The overall worthlessness of the LoL main forums make every quality post 1000x better.


10/10 would buy on first day

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