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zulu_nation8
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On March 16 2014 14:50 onlywonderboy wrote: I'm pretty sure these were posted before C9 even played (like when Group A was playing). Where is this negative response you're talking about? People seemed pretty hyped for KT B vs Gambit even after C9 lost... Edit: Oh wait, I think you mean NA/EU. I mean I guess SKT T1 would probably still steamroll the competition but the IEM has still been really fun to watch. I don't understand how that's a bad thing. Sure if SKT T1 K was there they would have wrecked everyone else. But hey, they weren't and we got a fun tournament. I'm not gonna just accept the lack of international tournaments just because other fans don't want to accept their region doesn't have the best team... oh i found the iem enjoyable too and i want to see western teams play international games etc. but you can't have it both ways given the reality of the skill gap we have right now. if riot introduces fairer tournaments and more of them there will be people crying about faceless koreans. the iem is successful because it's not a fair representation of skill between the scenes. i think there'll be less needless emotional expenditure when we all understand that riot has to work within this skill gap constraint to satisfy the typical western viewer's desire for a competitive international tournament involving western personalities. stuff like the new all star format already shows this. they want it to be more about muh personalities mixing it up rather than embarrassing different scenes. or they could go the dota route and make the game less about laning and execution and other trainable aspects but that'll never happen. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On March 17 2014 02:07 PrinceXizor wrote: If you play more games internationally you get two outcomes, one scene stagnates because they can never catch up, or the weaker scene improves and knowledge of the other scene is increased among the public and thry find teams to cheer for in both scenes. there hasn't really been many cases the first thing happens. I suppose BW would be one of the former, but I'm curious, what kinds of games have you seen that experience the latter? I don't know that much outside of BW/early SC2/LoL with a dash of Dota 2. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On March 17 2014 02:32 phyvo wrote: I suppose BW would be one of the former, but I'm curious, what kinds of games have you seen that experience the latter? I don't know that much outside of BW/early SC2/LoL with a dash of Dota 2. BW i wouldn't really count as the former, BW was a special case where only huge fans were playing either way so the public was a specialized group. and the latter really happened among that group though there were many people that also stopped playing, you had foreigners that competed that improved from being exposed to korean play not as quickly as the koreans but they definitely got much better. WC3 also had the latter effect pretty globally with people being exposed to top play with the grubby scene and the moon scene merging and pushing eachother on. Dota 1 had the latter effect when it comes to the european scene and the chinese scene, and i guess individual american players like Fear but there were never huge numbers of american teams even able to compete in dota 1 when i was following it a lot. SC2 had more of the former, at least from beta -> through years. but it could be argued that sc2 has other reasons for the large foreigner drop-off that occurred in 2011 on. Then we go into things i only have second hand experience of and thats things like whats going on with CoD right now with Complexity actually practicing and dominating events and the rest of the teams immediately because scrimming a lot and the scene has grown a lot. CS:GO people exposed to NiP began to learn their play and NiP went from literally unbeatable to coming in second of the course of the next year. Its far more common that the public gets exposed to the "faceless" teams and finds them less faceless, and then their home teams benefit from constant exposure to what better players are doing. very few scenes have ever been destroyed by exposure to the best players. Its possible LoL NA would be.. if the only reason the current NA teams play is for profit and not to be competitive and be the best. if you don't have a competitive drive then there is little reason to continue. i don't think many of the teams feel this way though. maybe tsm with the way its being handled but who knows. | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On March 16 2014 14:53 Kupon3ss wrote: That is a good point though, while its one thing to see the hometown western favorites play against the "korean overlords", it becomes another thing entirely when all the western teams are knocked out and all that's seen is "faceless asian teams" playing each other Ala S3 finals (the 3-0 didn't help) Tabe managed to get the western crowd behind Royal by giving awesome english interviews. I think if Royal won the series, we'd look back on them like we look back on TPA | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On March 17 2014 03:00 MattBarry wrote: Tabe managed to get the western crowd behind Royal by giving awesome english interviews. I think if Royal won the series, we'd look back on them like we look back on TPA It's definitely one of the many reasons the west has so much love for Maknoon. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On March 17 2014 03:04 Kupon3ss wrote: and one reason LMQ is getting a lot of support and enthusiasm in NA. Doesn't hurt that right after coming over they said "We're staying regardless of if we make it into LCS." | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On March 17 2014 03:04 Kupon3ss wrote: and one reason LMQ is getting a lot of support and enthusiasm in NA. Vasili, lomo and the cat is the best thing that could have happened to LMQ. He's pretty much become a fan favourite already. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
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Yezzus
United States2318 Posts
If he gets into LCS hed better be mannered lol | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
How the fuck is lomo-man toxic? | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
locicero giving nightblue lessons in chat on why you should take mid turret over dragon. | ||
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Alaric
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