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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 16 2014 23:32 GMT
#2461
On March 17 2014 08:23 Alaric wrote:
And Draven aa-ing him but because vision was lost with the projectile in the air, Nightblue didn't take any damage. Riot pls, that goddamn bug was reported several times in the prevous months and has never even been acknowledged. ><


teambuilder is much more important
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
March 16 2014 23:54 GMT
#2462
On March 17 2014 08:15 chalice wrote:
locicero karma + nightblue akali vs. brokenshard + pr0lly game starting now

locicero giving nightblue lessons in chat on why you should take mid turret over dragon.


Man, that game was stupid. We had a big wave at the turret and our Soraka had no mana. We had low life from diving mid, and nightblue demands dragon when their bot lane, full life full mana full summs and ults was bot. We can't beat them 3v2 (soraka no mana) especially with dragon killing us.

Mid turret was FREE. Also, dragon scales. So an early dragon isn't that big of a deal.

I sat mid and killed the turret while they killed themselves at dragon.

Real stupid game. Challenger: elo hell.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 16 2014 23:58 GMT
#2463
On March 17 2014 08:54 LoCicero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 08:15 chalice wrote:
locicero karma + nightblue akali vs. brokenshard + pr0lly game starting now

locicero giving nightblue lessons in chat on why you should take mid turret over dragon.


Man, that game was stupid. We had a big wave at the turret and our Soraka had no mana. We had low life from diving mid, and nightblue demands dragon when their bot lane, full life full mana full summs and ults was bot. We can't beat them 3v2 (soraka no mana) especially with dragon killing us.

Mid turret was FREE. Also, dragon scales. So an early dragon isn't that big of a deal.

I sat mid and killed the turret while they killed themselves at dragon.

Real stupid game. Challenger: elo hell.

Yeah, that was pretty dumb. Soraka even said she was OOM in chat.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
March 17 2014 00:03 GMT
#2464
I can't stand the way caster never see momentum based plays and say x is playing amazing when its so fucking easy to hit skill shots when your ahead compared to behind. Do a Madlife when your behind never happens when your opponents have a brain.

Also plays are good and bad not based on results but based on risk vs reward. + Show Spoiler +
This is bad play from Soaz and Cyanide and if KTB wasn't so shitty of a team right now they would probably have gotten a kill and escaped.

EU is a terrible region when Nrated carries SK because other teams can't draft and/or control game flow. Nrated is probably the worst support player currently in the EU scene. EU teams also have a tendency to play the game they like it even if they pick heroes that don't fit it. Rekkles imo the most mechanically skilled eu adc player has the a really bad playstyle, Cyanides succesful ganks are luck more than skill, GosuP is overaggressive for no reason. Celevar/Vander can't follow game flow or matchups(?) and get punished for it.

China is a Reginald Fanclub where they have these amazing bot lanes(which have terrible builds) but can't team work at all and have no plan on how to win.

Korea are slow to adapt and don't dare play fringe picks except for adcs their toplane meta is so far behind EU but are so far ahead in map pressure and long term strats that it doesn't matter. Zac is bad, Shen is bad.




My controversial list of best EU lcs players for each role are
Top: Wickd from being mediocre when he didn't have prenerf Irelia his latest games have been flawless where he has show amazing levels of skill in top lane. World class.
Jungle: Svenskeren on point play even when they lose when he loses he loses because SK is weak team (and bad luck because some players have weird playstyles)
Mid: Bjergsen, EU scene is so mediocre right now...
Adc: EU adc are ironically the tightest group where Genja (team fights), Rekkles(When he doesn't farm to much), Forgiven(When Genja slumps) are all top 4 but for different reasons. SHC adc is over aggressive and in the current meta where not dying is better than getting a kill he wins his lane just as much as he gives away free wins.
I would say Candypanda is the best currently because of his all around skill.
Support: Yellowstar mechanically so far ahead of all other supports. Korean level. Best EU player currently.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 17 2014 00:09 GMT
#2465
On March 17 2014 09:03 Eppa! wrote:
I can't stand the way caster never see momentum based plays and say x is playing amazing when its so fucking easy to hit skill shots when your ahead compared to behind. Do a Madlife when your behind never happens when your opponents have a brain.

Also plays are good and bad not based on results but based on risk vs reward. + Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t7k47XrB2Q
This is bad play from Soaz and Cyanide and if KTB wasn't so shitty of a team right now they would probably have gotten a kill and escaped.

EU is a terrible region when Nrated carries SK because other teams can't draft and/or control game flow. Nrated is probably the worst support player currently in the EU scene. EU teams also have a tendency to play the game they like it even if they pick heroes that don't fit it. Rekkles imo the most mechanically skilled eu adc player has the a really bad playstyle, Cyanides succesful ganks are luck more than skill, GosuP is overaggressive for no reason. Celevar/Vander can't follow game flow or matchups(?) and get punished for it.

China is a Reginald Fanclub where they have these amazing bot lanes(which have terrible builds) but can't team work at all and have no plan on how to win.

Korea are slow to adapt and don't dare play fringe picks except for adcs their toplane meta is so far behind EU but are so far ahead in map pressure and long term strats that it doesn't matter. Zac is bad, Shen is bad.




My controversial list of best EU lcs players for each role are
Top: Wickd from being mediocre when he didn't have prenerf Irelia his latest games have been flawless where he has show amazing levels of skill in top lane. World class.
Jungle: Svenskeren on point play even when they lose when he loses he loses because SK is weak team (and bad luck because some players have weird playstyles)
Mid: Bjergsen, EU scene is so mediocre right now...
Adc: EU adc are ironically the tightest group where Genja (team fights), Rekkles(When he doesn't farm to much), Forgiven(When Genja slumps) are all top 4 but for different reasons. SHC adc is over aggressive and in the current meta where not dying is better than getting a kill he wins his lane just as much as he gives away free wins.
I would say Candypanda is the best currently because of his all around skill.
Support: Yellowstar mechanically so far ahead of all other supports. Korean level. Best EU player currently.

I think most players agree Shen isn't great right now, but the KT organization seems to like him as a counter pick to Renekton. That's not them being behind the meta.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 17 2014 00:38 GMT
#2466
Zorozero would eat wickd alive in toplane.
Also, alex ich is still a really good midlaner.

Also what's with these LMQ roleswaps?
XWX support, Mor in toplane, no name in mid and godlike in jungle
liftlift > tsm
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9118 Posts
March 17 2014 00:48 GMT
#2467
1-11-3 Mor, this roleswap will be shortlived
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 17 2014 00:50 GMT
#2468
LOL wow. what is lmq doing
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
March 17 2014 00:52 GMT
#2469
I'd like to imagine that LMQ wants all of their team members to learn all types of roles so that they get better as a whole. A lot of times, you see certain players focus on one role, and it stalls out their game. I'm going to pretend it's this because it's difficult to give good reasons to random role swapping(unless you are CLG)
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 00:54:32
March 17 2014 00:53 GMT
#2470
How the hell do I play Vayne vs. Annie? I can't get a freaking cs without eating a +10 flaming ball to the face from muthafuckin' 625 freaking teemos away. This spellthief change is retarded. At least when they used to start dshield they couldn't start harassing you at level 1.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 17 2014 00:57 GMT
#2471
On March 17 2014 09:53 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
How the hell do I play Vayne vs. Annie? I can't get a freaking cs without eating a +10 flaming ball to the face from muthafuckin' 625 freaking teemos away. This spellthief change is retarded. At least when they used to start dshield they couldn't start harassing you at level 1.

You don't play vayne into annie without better support.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 17 2014 00:58 GMT
#2472
On March 17 2014 09:48 Dan HH wrote:
1-11-3 Mor, this roleswap will be shortlived

Mor actually played top lane when he was first on Royal. He actually got "demoted" to support because of how poorly he played before getting kicked down to LMQ (their short-lived role swap before Wh1t3zz and Godlike joined the team was XWX top, Uzi mid, Tabe ADC, Mor support).
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 17 2014 01:03 GMT
#2473
Royal Club Uzi has lost his will to live. He has probably informed his sister team LomoQats that he wishes to join them and eat cheeseburgers in the land of the free.

LomoQats is preparing for the Uzi.
God Bless
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 17 2014 01:09 GMT
#2474
Honestly, watching Uzi tilt is one of the most amusing things in LPL.

There's this moment in LGD vs Royal game 2 where Uzi/KMI get counterganked and killed, and after they die the camera instantly pan's to Royal and you can see the rage on Uzi's face as he chews out KMI.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 17 2014 01:13 GMT
#2475
this noname support not looking too hot
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
March 17 2014 01:15 GMT
#2476
On March 17 2014 10:09 TheYango wrote:
Honestly, watching Uzi tilt is one of the most amusing things in LPL.

There's this moment in LGD vs Royal game 2 where Uzi/KMI get counterganked and killed, and after they die the camera instantly pan's to Royal and you can see the rage on Uzi's face as he chews out KMI.


Every single LPL game is Uzi starting off with a score like 2-0 or like 3-1 and then his team feeding, and then Uzi just rage split pushes and tries to 1v5 and ends up with a score like 7-9 or something whenever his team starts to lose.

The question is always how long before Uzi loses his will to live.

Uzi's dream is to go to NA and get carried by Lomo-Man.
TranslatorBaa!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 01:17:49
March 17 2014 01:16 GMT
#2477
WTF, now noname is support. So weird...
man just imagine Royal's S3 team in NA. would be so sick,
On March 17 2014 10:13 oneofthem wrote:
this noname support not looking too hot

I dunno, did you see that kill on Cait? was pretty smooth. rofl.
liftlift > tsm
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 17 2014 01:19 GMT
#2478
He should probably move back to ADC. He should not be allowed to make any independent decision and just let the team call the shots.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 17 2014 01:19 GMT
#2479
On March 17 2014 10:16 wei2coolman wrote:
WTF, now noname is support. So weird...
man just imagine Royal's S3 team in NA. would be so sick,
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 10:13 oneofthem wrote:
this noname support not looking too hot

I dunno, did you see that kill on Cait? was pretty smooth. rofl.

ok now he's making da plays.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 01:24:36
March 17 2014 01:20 GMT
#2480
On March 17 2014 10:19 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
He should probably move back to ADC. He should not be allowed to make any independent decision and just let the team call the shots.


...

obama pls
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