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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 08:33:25
February 16 2014 08:32 GMT
#1081
On February 16 2014 16:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
Cassio super strong if you play a lot of support/AD botlane IMO, the hardest part of her is positioning and being patient-- you never burst anyone, you just plink away until they back or do something stupid, then you give them the D(ps).

Morgana is an amazing support. Paired with any AD who lacks a true escape and has strong damage (Cait, Draven, Ashe even possibly) she can be the support Soraka could never be-- press one or two buttons, let her AD farm and win lane. Draven Morgana is the stupidest lane ever and me and my duo played it from Gold 1 to Diamond last season because there's no way you can fight Draven without CC'ing him. People tried, people lost elo.


I feel Cassiopeia is not worth playing. I can see her being strong against the meta right now, but she is so unforgiving to play it's borderline retarded - one wrong move and your damage is done. There are so many safer choices in the game you can take and do equally well.

Also I think Riot should really fix her E so it resets when the target dies on route.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 16 2014 09:21 GMT
#1082
On February 16 2014 16:35 Sermokala wrote:
First game in the new ranked season and I pick my good ol zyra support. I go the cdr boots gmallet into lyandries build and its just like rock and roll all day ever day.


What's gmallet?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
February 16 2014 09:25 GMT
#1083
On February 16 2014 16:15 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 16:11 GolemMadness wrote:
Is anybody else having weird experiences with champion select since the patch? Before I'd be in the top 3 in the vast majority of my games. Now I've been last pick for over half my games. What's going on?!

They 'randomized' pick order in draft mode now, so everyone has a equal chance of being first pick. For duos, the captain is always 1st pick if he randomizes 1st pick.


I'm pretty sure they chose to not enable that this patch.

Cassio support is also fun if your partner is Twitch. It takes a bit of coordination and effort, but the results are pretty damn hilarious.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 10:16:18
February 16 2014 10:15 GMT
#1084
Any alternatives to Hybrid pen Runes? Or rather would getting the armor pen/magic pen numbers close using normal magic/armor pen runes pending on what you favor more for the page/champ be worthwhile or am I just crazy/bad?
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
February 16 2014 10:56 GMT
#1085
Why would you do that when hybrid gives you 33% more value
cool beans
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
February 16 2014 10:57 GMT
#1086
With these new duo changes......does it mean if challenger plays with a bronze theres a chance the bronze will be higher pick? I duoed with someone much lower than me and they were 2nd pick while I was 3rd...so confused now
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 16 2014 11:06 GMT
#1087
On February 16 2014 19:56 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Why would you do that when hybrid gives you 33% more value


I am completely broke on IP at the moment. Obviously Hybrid Pen is ideal but I've been busy picking up champs needed for current play like Elise,Olaf,Leona. I didn't play much of s3 seriously so I've got kinda a big roster to catch up on. I'am looking more for a temp solution.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Zizoz
Profile Joined June 2012
United States232 Posts
February 16 2014 11:35 GMT
#1088
I don't think there's any point in mixing arpen and mpen runes. Those stats get better the more you have of them, so if switching one rune from arpen to mpen is worth it then switching them all is, and vice versa, except in the rare case that you penetrate all of your enemy's armor/mr.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 11:50:43
February 16 2014 11:48 GMT
#1089
On February 16 2014 19:57 Yezzus wrote:
With these new duo changes......does it mean if challenger plays with a bronze theres a chance the bronze will be higher pick? I duoed with someone much lower than me and they were 2nd pick while I was 3rd...so confused now

Yes it is completely random now.Mmr doesn't matter.The cancer of duo strikes again.

This is the first time I am happy a feature is delayed for eu.Looks like having terrible servers isn't that bad.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
February 16 2014 12:03 GMT
#1090
On February 16 2014 20:35 Zizoz wrote:
I don't think there's any point in mixing arpen and mpen runes. Those stats get better the more you have of them, so if switching one rune from arpen to mpen is worth it then switching them all is, and vice versa, except in the rare case that you penetrate all of your enemy's armor/mr.

Hybrid pen has very specific use on mages who tend to have more autocentric laning phases. Stuff like ziggs, orianna, kayle, annie to name a few. You sacrifice a ~1% lategame damage for like 5% more damage early game.

I've seen a lot of pro-mid laners run 3-5 hybrid pen, and the rest mpen, just to take the slight advantage.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Zizoz
Profile Joined June 2012
United States232 Posts
February 16 2014 12:14 GMT
#1091
I didn't say hybrid pen isn't worthwhile.

I did say that mixing runes of different pen types isn't. That ought to extend to mixing hybrid and mpen runes, actually. What's the reasoning behind not going 9 hybrid pen?
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 16 2014 12:18 GMT
#1092
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 16 2014 12:48 GMT
#1093
^hahahahahahaha yes he/she was

Morg's ult is gamechanging and I'm really sad their proposed "buff" to her w made her completely unviable mid because you no longer have the damage to 100-0 someone at level 6
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Sarah Bryant
Profile Joined January 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
February 16 2014 13:14 GMT
#1094
On February 16 2014 21:18 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 17:20 Sarah Bryant wrote:
Morg support is never worth picking. She takes too much skill to win consistly versus good players, and you have safer and stronger options. Why bother?


Weren't you the one that advocated for support warwick?


Yeah!!!!, did you try it?, awesome huh??
Pumpkins!
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
February 16 2014 13:26 GMT
#1095
On February 16 2014 22:14 Sarah Bryant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 21:18 krndandaman wrote:
On February 16 2014 17:20 Sarah Bryant wrote:
Morg support is never worth picking. She takes too much skill to win consistly versus good players, and you have safer and stronger options. Why bother?


Weren't you the one that advocated for support warwick?


Yeah!!!!, did you try it?, awesome huh??

I think he was pointing out the irony of you advocating support ww but condemning support Morgana.

Platinum Support GOD
Sarah Bryant
Profile Joined January 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
February 16 2014 13:37 GMT
#1096
On February 16 2014 22:26 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 22:14 Sarah Bryant wrote:
On February 16 2014 21:18 krndandaman wrote:
On February 16 2014 17:20 Sarah Bryant wrote:
Morg support is never worth picking. She takes too much skill to win consistly versus good players, and you have safer and stronger options. Why bother?


Weren't you the one that advocated for support warwick?


Yeah!!!!, did you try it?, awesome huh??

I think he was pointing out the irony of you advocating support ww but condemning support Morgana.




Oh...i see....

Well, as i said in my posts ww support is awesome and fun and cool and valid but for various reasons he's not ideal in any way shape or form, he's never WORTH PICKING if you are 100% trying to raise elo and get challanger.

Same for morgana, she has nice tools i guess, she's not awful, but pick her over trash/lulu/leona/annie/karma?...why would you put yourself at that position.
Pumpkins!
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
February 16 2014 13:39 GMT
#1097
On February 16 2014 22:37 Sarah Bryant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 22:26 MattBarry wrote:
On February 16 2014 22:14 Sarah Bryant wrote:
On February 16 2014 21:18 krndandaman wrote:
On February 16 2014 17:20 Sarah Bryant wrote:
Morg support is never worth picking. She takes too much skill to win consistly versus good players, and you have safer and stronger options. Why bother?


Weren't you the one that advocated for support warwick?


Yeah!!!!, did you try it?, awesome huh??

I think he was pointing out the irony of you advocating support ww but condemning support Morgana.




Oh...i see....

Well, as i said in my posts ww support is awesome and fun and cool and valid but for various reasons he's not ideal in any way shape or form, he's never WORTH PICKING if you are 100% trying to raise elo and get challanger.

Same for morgana, she has nice tools i guess, she's not awful, but pick her over trash/lulu/leona/annie/karma?...why would you put yourself at that position.

Dumpsters melee supports. She's a counter pick. Never pick Morgana against Lulu/Sona/Zyra etc. I think Morgana can work against Nami because her poke is so mana intensive but I've actually never played the match up in my 50+ games as Morgana and 80+ games as Nami
Platinum Support GOD
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 16 2014 13:40 GMT
#1098
She's just trolling, don't listen to anything she says
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 16 2014 13:45 GMT
#1099
Didn't px advocate ww support also?
Sarah Bryant
Profile Joined January 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
February 16 2014 13:47 GMT
#1100
On February 16 2014 22:40 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
She's just trolling, don't listen to anything she says


Is this reddit?, you just decide i "troll" out of nowhere becuase i say morg support isnt worth picking?, okay <3.

Yes she's good vs melee support, but again the same can be said about most supports..they all have thier benefit, but the current fotms just have the best tools, morg cant provide all the goodies they bring.
Pumpkins!
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