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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 15 2014 22:22 GMT
#1061
On February 16 2014 07:12 Sponkz wrote:
Blitzcrank's kit is totally based around his hook; everytime he misses it, he HAS to go into melee range and peel off with E, and his R silence is merely there to help him boost the burst potential of grabbing anyways. It's not like thresh who can still do retardedly good peeling thanks to his E and R.

Blitzcrank really needs to land the hook in the same way morgana needs to land her bind, that's what I'm trying to point out.

I really don't agree at all.If you pick morgana it is only because enemy team has something retarded like vi/yasuo so you can stop their combo.You could miss every bind and only shield whoever gets vi ulted and ult yourself and be useful.She is situational doe just like blitz.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 22:25:03
February 15 2014 22:24 GMT
#1062
On February 16 2014 07:22 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 07:12 Sponkz wrote:
Blitzcrank's kit is totally based around his hook; everytime he misses it, he HAS to go into melee range and peel off with E, and his R silence is merely there to help him boost the burst potential of grabbing anyways. It's not like thresh who can still do retardedly good peeling thanks to his E and R.

Blitzcrank really needs to land the hook in the same way morgana needs to land her bind, that's what I'm trying to point out.

I really don't agree at all.If you pick morgana it is only because enemy team has something retarded like vi/yasuo so you can stop their combo.You could miss every bind and only shield whoever gets vi ulted and ult yourself and be useful.She is situational doe just like blitz.



Yeah of course she can be useful, i wasn't trying to imply anything like that (sorry if i did), but merely further commenting on what Locicero wrote about her viability as an AP compared to support. It makes sense to play her as a support, because then you wouldn't be the one having to initiate the fights, because you have a proper jungler/top to do it for you, and that means the binds are much easier to land, because it becomes a peeling tool for your AD/AP.
hi
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 15 2014 22:42 GMT
#1063
Eve wasn't too fast in s3 compared to the rest, but her Q and E are crazy good to kill that pesky minor camp you need to hit 3 on your second buff, so she gains a lot of time there.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
February 15 2014 23:21 GMT
#1064
On February 16 2014 06:54 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 06:48 Cheap0 wrote:
On February 16 2014 06:40 TheHumanSensation wrote:
Jungle morg sounds interesting, can you give me a quick run-down of it?


Yea I was thinking the same thing. Runes, masteries, skilling order, how to play it?

Runes:
MS or AP (or Mpen, if you really want) Quints
Mpen reds
armor yellows
whatever you want blues (flat MR or MR/lvl works for a "balanced" page)

Masteries: Either 21/9/0 or 21/0/9 (former gets you abit tankier, but latter gives better sustain and MS).


Skilling order: W-Q-Q into gank. Level up Q first if you want better ganks, W if you want better clear. You can ignore E if you really don't feel you need it (and go W-Q-Q-W for the first 4 levels), but against junglers like Vi at level 6, you can negate their entire gank attempt with 1 point in E since they can't break it or land any CC. Won't save you against Kha.


Just realize your Q has an insanely high duration if you max it first, so you should leverage it in ganks, and you're ranged, so you can leverage red buff well in ganks. R makes your ganks super scary if they're even remotely past river and you can flank them.

Jungle speed: farms fast once you get items (and blue buff def helps), but the initial clear is modest early on. Note your Smite procs your passive, so you get pretty good sustain overall with Spectral wraith/Spirit Stone. You clear wraiths easy.


Thanks, I'll give it a try.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
February 16 2014 00:29 GMT
#1065
On February 16 2014 07:22 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 07:12 Sponkz wrote:
Blitzcrank's kit is totally based around his hook; everytime he misses it, he HAS to go into melee range and peel off with E, and his R silence is merely there to help him boost the burst potential of grabbing anyways. It's not like thresh who can still do retardedly good peeling thanks to his E and R.

Blitzcrank really needs to land the hook in the same way morgana needs to land her bind, that's what I'm trying to point out.

I really don't agree at all.If you pick morgana it is only because enemy team has something retarded like vi/yasuo so you can stop their combo.You could miss every bind and only shield whoever gets vi ulted and ult yourself and be useful.She is situational doe just like blitz.

This is true. She doesn't do as well vs traditional supports either. Someone like Sona just pokes you down. But you manhandle someone like Leona like no other.

In a similar vein to Morgana Jungle, try Zyra jungle. Less sustain, but ganks are just as brutal (has a very good AA range too). Plants help tank camps.
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
February 16 2014 00:44 GMT
#1066
Yasuo still needs more nerfs
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 16 2014 02:42 GMT
#1067
On February 16 2014 07:42 Alaric wrote:
Eve wasn't too fast in s3 compared to the rest, but her Q and E are crazy good to kill that pesky minor camp you need to hit 3 on your second buff, so she gains a lot of time there.


She was very fast in season 3 as well. In ~150 Eve games, I don't think another jungler made it to top lane before me a single time.
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
February 16 2014 03:18 GMT
#1068

wow
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
February 16 2014 03:44 GMT
#1069
On February 16 2014 12:18 kongoline wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tyJxo_UyFU
wow

Repost. But yeah faker is pretty good.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
February 16 2014 03:44 GMT
#1070
On February 16 2014 12:18 kongoline wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tyJxo_UyFU
wow

Isn't this like months old lol
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 03:50:26
February 16 2014 03:49 GMT
#1071
Soloqueue so hard right now.

Matchmaking all over the place.

QQ


My last game was 2 golds, 1 bronze, 1 silver, one diamond, against a team 4 platinum and 1 gold. I so tired of my placement matches man.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 16 2014 04:00 GMT
#1072
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 16 2014 07:11 GMT
#1073
Is anybody else having weird experiences with champion select since the patch? Before I'd be in the top 3 in the vast majority of my games. Now I've been last pick for over half my games. What's going on?!
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
February 16 2014 07:15 GMT
#1074
On February 16 2014 16:11 GolemMadness wrote:
Is anybody else having weird experiences with champion select since the patch? Before I'd be in the top 3 in the vast majority of my games. Now I've been last pick for over half my games. What's going on?!

They 'randomized' pick order in draft mode now, so everyone has a equal chance of being first pick. For duos, the captain is always 1st pick if he randomizes 1st pick.
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
February 16 2014 07:35 GMT
#1075
First game in the new ranked season and I pick my good ol zyra support. I go the cdr boots gmallet into lyandries build and its just like rock and roll all day ever day.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 07:47:21
February 16 2014 07:41 GMT
#1076
Cassio super strong if you play a lot of support/AD botlane IMO, the hardest part of her is positioning and being patient-- you never burst anyone, you just plink away until they back or do something stupid, then you give them the D(ps).

Morgana is an amazing support. Paired with any AD who lacks a true escape and has strong damage (Cait, Draven, Ashe even possibly) she can be the support Soraka could never be-- press one or two buttons, let her AD farm and win lane. Draven Morgana is the stupidest lane ever and me and my duo played it from Gold 1 to Diamond last season because there's no way you can fight Draven without CC'ing him. People tried, people lost elo.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Sarah Bryant
Profile Joined January 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
February 16 2014 08:20 GMT
#1077
Morg support is never worth picking. She takes too much skill to win consistly versus good players, and you have safer and stronger options. Why bother?
Pumpkins!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 16 2014 08:20 GMT
#1078
cause black shield
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
February 16 2014 08:23 GMT
#1079
I can't fucking win with Morg support this season. I had a nearly 70% win rate with it with 40 games played in Season 3 but I've gone 0-6 in Season 4 so far and I've just lost the will to play it
Platinum Support GOD
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35167 Posts
February 16 2014 08:28 GMT
#1080
On February 16 2014 16:35 Sermokala wrote:
First game in the new ranked season and I pick my good ol zyra support. I go the cdr boots gmallet into lyandries build and its just like rock and roll all day ever day.

Uhm, how do you win any games with that?
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