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Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
February 16 2014 16:35 GMT
#1121
If you max E on support Lulu it becomes pretty useless to E on a minion and then Q the opponent from the minion (for double q range in total). Hence you can punish opponent's less for getting slightly behind pre 6. If you are certain that you will be only defensive that is fine, I like to play Lulu more aggressive though.

(also it is always hilarious if you get an early game kill by E on a minion then Q from there)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 16 2014 16:51 GMT
#1122
This Xerath on Nightblu's stream is carrying so ridiculously hard. Draven throwing almost as hard tho.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
February 16 2014 17:26 GMT
#1123
Any1 know what team Dexter played on before he came to CLG?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 16 2014 17:27 GMT
#1124
On February 16 2014 22:45 JonnyLaw wrote:
Didn't px advocate ww support also?

Yes
Freeeeeeedom
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 16 2014 17:30 GMT
#1125
Best thing with Lulu ever is to WE Hec, let him ult, then RQ when he's midflight. Such terror. Much pony. So terror. Wow.

Bonus points if you can do it with Rainbow Hecarim.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 17:32:40
February 16 2014 17:31 GMT
#1126
On February 16 2014 23:58 Sarah Bryant wrote:
Lulu is the best bodyguard in soloq, janna and cow are good in that area too but, lulu is unmatched in the miracles she can pull to save the team.

Personally I find Lulu for soloQ as a bodyguard (at least before grouping) severely lacking as a bodyguard compared to Janna and Alistar, her defensives sort of relies on your adc not doing stupid stuff and/or coordination, which I simply don't find reliable enough when playing solo. At the least, this is my findings from gold.

If you're teamed up with a good adc or with a duo partner she's execellent tho, and one of my most frequent picks in this case; love her play-making kit.

My thoughts on Q vs E for poking, I find it much easier to land Qs than E since you can lead Qs and enlarge range with E. Having a longer slow duration also helps landing some few auto potshots.

On February 17 2014 02:26 Yezzus wrote:
Any1 know what team Dexter played on before he came to CLG?

Wasn't it Lemondogs or DragonBorns?
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 17:37:03
February 16 2014 17:34 GMT
#1127
E max on lulu is fine if you're okay with being on the defensive for the whole laning phase imo

Also lulu is more a support for bruisers, not really adc, if you want to make plays, you need to take advantage of the knockup on your ult and try to wombo with a diving tank. For the adc you can only do the fiddles special and cockblock them in their jump with W
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
February 16 2014 17:37 GMT
#1128
Lemondogs
God Bless
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 17:47:46
February 16 2014 17:47 GMT
#1129
Lemonborn DRAGONDOGS
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 16 2014 18:30 GMT
#1130
On February 17 2014 01:09 chalice wrote:
lulu mid's biggest weakness is that it gives "toxic" players an excuse to start bitching and insulting their teammates before the game even starts. you have to do some serious psychological massaging just to make sure they aren't more concerned with proving that they are right about lulu being a bad pick than they are with winning the game.


yea, this is why in solo q you always target the "weird" pick as a jungler to gank. If they start doing poorly then the team will begin to implode as long as they even have just one player like that.
I come in for the scraps
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 16 2014 18:31 GMT
#1131
After watching VandeR counter pick Morg into Leona, I can definitely see her merits against a melee, CC support. It's not that bad.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 18:45:19
February 16 2014 18:45 GMT
#1132
On February 17 2014 02:26 Yezzus wrote:
Any1 know what team Dexter played on before he came to CLG?

Lemondogs :O
Edit:Sniped
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
February 16 2014 19:08 GMT
#1133
On February 17 2014 03:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:26 Yezzus wrote:
Any1 know what team Dexter played on before he came to CLG?

Lemondogs :O
Edit:Sniped

Dat's not even snipe. You were like 2 hours late lol.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
February 16 2014 19:18 GMT
#1134
On February 17 2014 04:08 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 03:45 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:26 Yezzus wrote:
Any1 know what team Dexter played on before he came to CLG?

Lemondogs :O
Edit:Sniped

Dat's not even snipe. You were like 2 hours late lol.

More like overtaken on the motorway by a giant truck
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 19:59:50
February 16 2014 19:59 GMT
#1135
On February 17 2014 03:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 01:09 chalice wrote:
lulu mid's biggest weakness is that it gives "toxic" players an excuse to start bitching and insulting their teammates before the game even starts. you have to do some serious psychological massaging just to make sure they aren't more concerned with proving that they are right about lulu being a bad pick than they are with winning the game.


yea, this is why in solo q you always target the "weird" pick as a jungler to gank. If they start doing poorly then the team will begin to implode as long as they even have just one player like that.



Oooh.

I like that. Thats evil. Maybe throw in a "/all ouch, its too bad this scrub picked X. I feel bad for you guys..."
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
February 16 2014 20:02 GMT
#1136
Nerf Evelynn moar plz, not enough nerfs.

/sarcasm
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
February 16 2014 20:04 GMT
#1137
I dont know but i feel like Maxing E on lulu support puts her behind quite a bit for the midgame. Having maxed Whimsy and Glitterlance is pretty damn useful for fights
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
February 16 2014 20:43 GMT
#1138
On February 17 2014 05:04 Bam Lee wrote:
I dont know but i feel like Maxing E on lulu support puts her behind quite a bit for the midgame. Having maxed Whimsy and Glitterlance is pretty damn useful for fights

i think, at least at low levels of play, the whole point of lulu support is to make life miserable for their bot lane with autos and Qs
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 21:03:18
February 16 2014 21:02 GMT
#1139
On February 17 2014 05:43 chalice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 05:04 Bam Lee wrote:
I dont know but i feel like Maxing E on lulu support puts her behind quite a bit for the midgame. Having maxed Whimsy and Glitterlance is pretty damn useful for fights

i think, at least at low levels of play, the whole point of lulu support is to make life miserable for their bot lane with autos and Qs

What i don't quite get is, if you're playing Lulu for the shield, why not just play Janna.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 21:15:39
February 16 2014 21:13 GMT
#1140
On February 16 2014 22:47 Sarah Bryant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 22:40 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
She's just trolling, don't listen to anything she says


Is this reddit?, you just decide i "troll" out of nowhere becuase i say morg support isnt worth picking?, okay <3.

Yes she's good vs melee support, but again the same can be said about most supports..they all have thier benefit, but the current fotms just have the best tools, morg cant provide all the goodies they bring.

No, I decide you "troll" out of nowhere because you advocate retarded shit all the time and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.

It's either you're trolling, bad, or stupid. Take your pick.

Also, this isn't reddit, because if you say dumb shit here you get called out on it.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
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