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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 14 2014 08:26 GMT
#801
On February 14 2014 17:02 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 15:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
who should i buy with 4800 ip out of:

graves xerath yorick kogmaw galio

i'm thinking yorick

6300s i don't have:

lissandra nami lulu

A true zergling would be buying kogmaw.


sorry i already own kerrigan morgana skin so bite me you faker (and not the skt kind)
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 14 2014 08:59 GMT
#802
why is ranked down again? fucking riot, come the fuck on.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
February 14 2014 09:02 GMT
#803
On February 14 2014 17:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 17:02 Harem wrote:
On February 14 2014 15:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
who should i buy with 4800 ip out of:

graves xerath yorick kogmaw galio

i'm thinking yorick

6300s i don't have:

lissandra nami lulu

A true zergling would be buying kogmaw.


sorry i already own kerrigan morgana skin so bite me you faker (and not the skt kind)

Kerrigan Zyra is the true Queen of Blades now, poseur.
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
February 14 2014 09:07 GMT
#804
On February 14 2014 16:42 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 16:34 Gahlo wrote:
On February 14 2014 16:32 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On February 14 2014 15:56 wei2coolman wrote:
save gold for lulu, it's the only one that's in fotm.


i dont really care about fotm, but i have been meaning to buy lulu for ages since i got her in aram during free week

Do eeeet. I swear it's impossible to rage with her cheery voiceover.

ziggs used to the only champion which made me laugh because of his hilarious voiceover, shame he had to become fotm so playing him now makes me feel like sheep ;/


Not sure if you are joking but the hipster mentality in League is really weird to me. I mean first of all you are playing the most popular/mainstream PC game ever so it's kind of ironic. Secondly, I just like playing champions I find fun, fotm or not. I am just glad that so many fotm champs right now are both entertaining and rewarding to play (Lucian, Vi, Ziggs, Leona) because ultimately this is how I have the most fun in LoL. I actively avoid top lane because I don't find any of the currently strong champions in that role much fun to play (Mundo zzz, Shyv zzz).
I got nothin'...
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 14 2014 09:12 GMT
#805
On February 14 2014 16:42 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 16:34 Gahlo wrote:
On February 14 2014 16:32 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On February 14 2014 15:56 wei2coolman wrote:
save gold for lulu, it's the only one that's in fotm.


i dont really care about fotm, but i have been meaning to buy lulu for ages since i got her in aram during free week

Do eeeet. I swear it's impossible to rage with her cheery voiceover.

ziggs used to the only champion which made me laugh because of his hilarious voiceover, shame he had to become fotm so playing him now makes me feel like sheep ;/

Or like Cheep, which may be worse.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
February 14 2014 09:12 GMT
#806
On February 14 2014 18:07 YouGotNothin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 16:42 kongoline wrote:
On February 14 2014 16:34 Gahlo wrote:
On February 14 2014 16:32 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On February 14 2014 15:56 wei2coolman wrote:
save gold for lulu, it's the only one that's in fotm.


i dont really care about fotm, but i have been meaning to buy lulu for ages since i got her in aram during free week

Do eeeet. I swear it's impossible to rage with her cheery voiceover.

ziggs used to the only champion which made me laugh because of his hilarious voiceover, shame he had to become fotm so playing him now makes me feel like sheep ;/


Not sure if you are joking but the hipster mentality in League is really weird to me. I mean first of all you are playing the most popular/mainstream PC game ever so it's kind of ironic. Secondly, I just like playing champions I find fun, fotm or not. I am just glad that so many fotm champs right now are both entertaining and rewarding to play (Lucian, Vi, Ziggs, Leona) because ultimately this is how I have the most fun in LoL. I actively avoid top lane because I don't find any of the currently strong champions in that role much fun to play (Mundo zzz, Shyv zzz).

For the most part, I don't get it either. However, when a champion gets super popular very quickly it's annoying to be accused of being a band wagoner.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 14 2014 09:20 GMT
#807
Some guy banned Viktor yesteray. Another dodged so I couldn't ask him after the game started why he'd do that.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
drkcid
Profile Joined October 2012
Spain196 Posts
February 14 2014 09:28 GMT
#808
On February 14 2014 18:20 Alaric wrote:
Some guy banned Viktor yesteray. Another dodged so I couldn't ask him after the game started why he'd do that.


Missclick? Trying to Ban Vi he Banned Viktor by accident, maybe Viktor is OP and only he knows that or just trolling xD
Just for fun
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
February 14 2014 09:34 GMT
#809
On February 14 2014 18:28 drkcid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 18:20 Alaric wrote:
Some guy banned Viktor yesteray. Another dodged so I couldn't ask him after the game started why he'd do that.


Missclick? Trying to Ban Vi he Banned Viktor by accident, maybe Viktor is OP and only he knows that or just trolling xD

Those Anivia bans in OGN.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 14 2014 10:09 GMT
#810
Aatrox pretty stronk. He's like Rango with his E and retarded sustain :0
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
February 14 2014 10:13 GMT
#811
I've played Aatrox yesterday but as a jungler. I feel like he's so goddamn squishy that I just have to give up on him I guess. He's way better top lane, I got pretty strong early game, going like 3-0 after babysitting top (Darius vs Teemo) and burning flashes 24/7 but mid-late game I've felt he fallen a lot, after I've jumped on anyone I got immedietaly bursted down. Not to mention they had a pretty hard CC, also Teemo and his Q ... :\ I've went for elder > tiamat > hydra > spirit visage > randuin.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
February 14 2014 10:18 GMT
#812
On February 14 2014 19:13 739 wrote:
I've played Aatrox yesterday but as a jungler. I feel like he's so goddamn squishy that I just have to give up on him I guess. He's way better top lane, I got pretty strong early game, going like 3-0 after babysitting top (Darius vs Teemo) and burning flashes 24/7 but mid-late game I've felt he fallen a lot, after I've jumped on anyone I got immedietaly bursted down. Not to mention they had a pretty hard CC, also Teemo and his Q ... :\ I've went for elder > tiamat > hydra > spirit visage > randuin.

For me, if anything Aatrox is a mid laner now (perhaps can work as a carry jungle as well) You have to go damage with him to be somehow useful and you cannot afford that top lane in the current meta
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
February 14 2014 10:19 GMT
#813
On February 14 2014 18:02 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 17:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On February 14 2014 17:02 Harem wrote:
On February 14 2014 15:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
who should i buy with 4800 ip out of:

graves xerath yorick kogmaw galio

i'm thinking yorick

6300s i don't have:

lissandra nami lulu

A true zergling would be buying kogmaw.


sorry i already own kerrigan morgana skin so bite me you faker (and not the skt kind)

Kerrigan Zyra is the true Queen of Blades now, poseur.

Riot needs to make a Hydralisk Cass skin. I'd buy that pretty darn quickly.

Also, I'm really enjoying Lissandra at the moment. Highly underrated, with both excellent laneing (farms well at worst) and teamfighting.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
February 14 2014 10:21 GMT
#814
On February 14 2014 19:18 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 19:13 739 wrote:
I've played Aatrox yesterday but as a jungler. I feel like he's so goddamn squishy that I just have to give up on him I guess. He's way better top lane, I got pretty strong early game, going like 3-0 after babysitting top (Darius vs Teemo) and burning flashes 24/7 but mid-late game I've felt he fallen a lot, after I've jumped on anyone I got immedietaly bursted down. Not to mention they had a pretty hard CC, also Teemo and his Q ... :\ I've went for elder > tiamat > hydra > spirit visage > randuin.

For me, if anything Aatrox is a mid laner now (perhaps can work as a carry jungle as well) You have to go damage with him to be somehow useful and you cannot afford that top lane in the current meta

I don't feel him as a jungler to be honest, feels for me he's too squishy. I mean he's really good early if you can execute ganks well since you have a knockup and a slow and pretty nice damage but once I get to mid game I feel terribly useless :\ I get bursted so hard and so fast that even with a revive I'm going down pretty fast :\
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
February 14 2014 10:23 GMT
#815
On February 14 2014 19:19 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 18:02 Gahlo wrote:
On February 14 2014 17:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On February 14 2014 17:02 Harem wrote:
On February 14 2014 15:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
who should i buy with 4800 ip out of:

graves xerath yorick kogmaw galio

i'm thinking yorick

6300s i don't have:

lissandra nami lulu

A true zergling would be buying kogmaw.


sorry i already own kerrigan morgana skin so bite me you faker (and not the skt kind)

Kerrigan Zyra is the true Queen of Blades now, poseur.

Riot needs to make a Hydralisk Cass skin. I'd buy that pretty darn quickly.

Also, I'm really enjoying Lissandra at the moment. Highly underrated, with both excellent laneing (farms well at worst) and teamfighting.

Or find Eve a lurker hat.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
February 14 2014 10:29 GMT
#816
OGN Masters club spoilers / 'analysis' on Aatrox

+ Show Spoiler +
Aatrox isn't terrible as a champion right now, but he might be terrible as a jungler due to how his early-game (aka the only reason you jungled Aatrox) was nerfed pretty hard.

For example, we look at game 2 of CJ Entus vs Jin Air and we saw Aatrox come out as a counterpick against Shyvana from trAce (which CJ laneswapped to remove the advantage of the counterpick) and he managed to farm okay under tower, and he picked up a fast hydra to just permanently sustain/trade farm with Shy. At a midgame dragon fight with all members present Aatrox was a significantly stronger threat to the opposing team's backline. He was pretty much single-handedly zoning out the enemies carries with a hydra/visage/wardens mail/tabi build due to his insane regen/stickiness.

He's probably not a top tier soloQ pick but I think that he has competitive potential as a niche counterpick. MonteCristo said that trAce likes picking Aatrox a lot to counter other top lane tanks, which comes as weird to me because I don't think he should really do well vs other popular picks except vs Shyvana (Renekton manhandles Aatrox, unsure of Mundo), because they have a very similar role/playstyle of a backline disruptor/tank but Shyvana is not even close to as threatening as Aatrox until very late in the game, while I think that ultimately Aatrox scales better due to his passive + the ability to land multiple knockups in a teamfight.

He's a very interesting pick in the toplane right now IMO and I'll be very interested to see if any other teams will be picking him.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 10:45:14
February 14 2014 10:43 GMT
#817
On February 14 2014 19:29 Dusty wrote:
OGN Masters club spoilers / 'analysis' on Aatrox

+ Show Spoiler +
Aatrox isn't terrible as a champion right now, but he might be terrible as a jungler due to how his early-game (aka the only reason you jungled Aatrox) was nerfed pretty hard.

For example, we look at game 2 of CJ Entus vs Jin Air and we saw Aatrox come out as a counterpick against Shyvana from trAce (which CJ laneswapped to remove the advantage of the counterpick) and he managed to farm okay under tower, and he picked up a fast hydra to just permanently sustain/trade farm with Shy. At a midgame dragon fight with all members present Aatrox was a significantly stronger threat to the opposing team's backline. He was pretty much single-handedly zoning out the enemies carries with a hydra/visage/wardens mail/tabi build due to his insane regen/stickiness.

He's probably not a top tier soloQ pick but I think that he has competitive potential as a niche counterpick. MonteCristo said that trAce likes picking Aatrox a lot to counter other top lane tanks, which comes as weird to me because I don't think he should really do well vs other popular picks except vs Shyvana (Renekton manhandles Aatrox, unsure of Mundo), because they have a very similar role/playstyle of a backline disruptor/tank but Shyvana is not even close to as threatening as Aatrox until very late in the game, while I think that ultimately Aatrox scales better due to his passive + the ability to land multiple knockups in a teamfight.

He's a very interesting pick in the toplane right now IMO and I'll be very interested to see if any other teams will be picking him.

Trace IIRC was losing the early game to shyv as well. Once he got his sustain/waveclear though, it simply didn't matter that there was a shyv in the lane. I'd imagine renekton is much the same. Once aatrox can't be bursted he's pretty much impossible to remove from a lane because it takes so little to bring him up to an acceptable amount of HP. Especially with the ability to 1v2 so you go 1v1 with a small item probably makes a huge difference.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 14 2014 10:44 GMT
#818
On February 14 2014 19:19 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 18:02 Gahlo wrote:
On February 14 2014 17:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On February 14 2014 17:02 Harem wrote:
On February 14 2014 15:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
who should i buy with 4800 ip out of:

graves xerath yorick kogmaw galio

i'm thinking yorick

6300s i don't have:

lissandra nami lulu

A true zergling would be buying kogmaw.


sorry i already own kerrigan morgana skin so bite me you faker (and not the skt kind)

Kerrigan Zyra is the true Queen of Blades now, poseur.

Riot needs to make a Hydralisk Cass skin. I'd buy that pretty darn quickly.

Also, I'm really enjoying Lissandra at the moment. Highly underrated, with both excellent laneing (farms well at worst) and teamfighting.

I asume you're playing her mid? I plan on making her my go-to AP offlaner to avoid getting shoe-horned into a full physical comp if it comes to that, but I haven't had the opportunity to practice much yet.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
February 14 2014 11:06 GMT
#819
On February 14 2014 19:44 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 19:19 JazzVortical wrote:
On February 14 2014 18:02 Gahlo wrote:
On February 14 2014 17:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On February 14 2014 17:02 Harem wrote:
On February 14 2014 15:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
who should i buy with 4800 ip out of:

graves xerath yorick kogmaw galio

i'm thinking yorick

6300s i don't have:

lissandra nami lulu

A true zergling would be buying kogmaw.


sorry i already own kerrigan morgana skin so bite me you faker (and not the skt kind)

Kerrigan Zyra is the true Queen of Blades now, poseur.

Riot needs to make a Hydralisk Cass skin. I'd buy that pretty darn quickly.

Also, I'm really enjoying Lissandra at the moment. Highly underrated, with both excellent laneing (farms well at worst) and teamfighting.

I asume you're playing her mid? I plan on making her my go-to AP offlaner to avoid getting shoe-horned into a full physical comp if it comes to that, but I haven't had the opportunity to practice much yet.

Mainly, but I have played her top on occasion. She might just be the hardest bully vs Melees in the game. Someone like Darius can't touch you. You make Singed cry for once. Even someone with hard engages is manageable. I haven't played her top in the current super tank meta, but like I said, she farms extremely well (Can clear with a QE), and anti tank items like Liandries and Morello's are really good buys on her. Renekton might be annoying because he has two dashes, but Shyvana and Mundo would just be farm fests. They can't kill you, but it's unlikely you can kill them, unless they eat heaps of harass.

She kites like a fucking boss and even has a good escape for the long lane. Only problem is sustain.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 14 2014 12:06 GMT
#820
On February 14 2014 19:29 Dusty wrote:
OGN Masters club spoilers / 'analysis' on Aatrox

+ Show Spoiler +
Aatrox isn't terrible as a champion right now, but he might be terrible as a jungler due to how his early-game (aka the only reason you jungled Aatrox) was nerfed pretty hard.

For example, we look at game 2 of CJ Entus vs Jin Air and we saw Aatrox come out as a counterpick against Shyvana from trAce (which CJ laneswapped to remove the advantage of the counterpick) and he managed to farm okay under tower, and he picked up a fast hydra to just permanently sustain/trade farm with Shy. At a midgame dragon fight with all members present Aatrox was a significantly stronger threat to the opposing team's backline. He was pretty much single-handedly zoning out the enemies carries with a hydra/visage/wardens mail/tabi build due to his insane regen/stickiness.

He's probably not a top tier soloQ pick but I think that he has competitive potential as a niche counterpick. MonteCristo said that trAce likes picking Aatrox a lot to counter other top lane tanks, which comes as weird to me because I don't think he should really do well vs other popular picks except vs Shyvana (Renekton manhandles Aatrox, unsure of Mundo), because they have a very similar role/playstyle of a backline disruptor/tank but Shyvana is not even close to as threatening as Aatrox until very late in the game, while I think that ultimately Aatrox scales better due to his passive + the ability to land multiple knockups in a teamfight.

He's a very interesting pick in the toplane right now IMO and I'll be very interested to see if any other teams will be picking him.

Like Bt or Bork on him more than hydra, he doesnt really need the waveclear with E/Q tbh.
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