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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 14 2014 04:11 GMT
#761
On February 14 2014 13:05 Yezzus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 13:04 Amui wrote:
On February 14 2014 12:34 Yezzus wrote:
Watching OGN on twitch....man the production and game intros surpass LCS by far. Really cool......but Monte is annoying as hell

He is a lot more frank with his assessment of a teams performance, not sugar coating stuff. Nothing wrong with that.

His overuse of the word "rotations" bugs me

How is it over used? That's how Koreans play the game.
liftlift > tsm
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
February 14 2014 04:11 GMT
#762
On February 14 2014 13:01 Yezzus wrote:
Do you guys feel that this years Allstar NA team will be wayyyy more stacked than last years and might make some noise? AD- Dlift Mid- Bjerg Jungle - Meteos Support- Xspecial? and top - I guess Dyrus?

Dont think it would be that stacked... it would basically be TSM+ Dlift&Meteos. They might be able to make some noise with Bjerg+Meteos but who knows, NA did not win anything in the last allstars except for reaching to the finals of the 2v2
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 04:13:51
February 14 2014 04:12 GMT
#763
On February 14 2014 13:11 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 13:05 Yezzus wrote:
On February 14 2014 13:04 Amui wrote:
On February 14 2014 12:34 Yezzus wrote:
Watching OGN on twitch....man the production and game intros surpass LCS by far. Really cool......but Monte is annoying as hell

He is a lot more frank with his assessment of a teams performance, not sugar coating stuff. Nothing wrong with that.

His overuse of the word "rotations" bugs me

How is it over used? That's how Koreans play the game.

because we're not playing WoW?
where it's used most and its not even remotely similar in league?

i guess unless its talking about describing moving lanes, which is okay i guess. have seen several people post rotations to describe spell use here though and it erks me
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 14 2014 04:13 GMT
#764
On February 14 2014 13:01 silencefc wrote:
Well, Monte is no Moletrap.


To compare Montecristo with Moletrap would be a serious insult to Monte.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 14 2014 04:19 GMT
#765
On February 14 2014 05:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 05:21 AsnSensation wrote:
what's the point of going straight to the second buffcamp though if you won't hit lvl 3 with it.

What I've seen is, for example if you start blue buff, and you contest at their red buff immediately after your buff. So the enemy jungler who did the small camp in between is worse off than you because they did small camp; but still at level 2 with you.

It's pretty fucking cheezy, but you'd be surprised how well it works.

Also, another thing you can do is grab level 2 off both buffs, gank or pressure a lane, use lane xp to get to 3.


I like to do one buff, walk through mid lane and "gank" and then do second buff, usually get level 3 from xp leeched.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
February 14 2014 04:22 GMT
#766
On February 14 2014 13:12 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 13:11 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 14 2014 13:05 Yezzus wrote:
On February 14 2014 13:04 Amui wrote:
On February 14 2014 12:34 Yezzus wrote:
Watching OGN on twitch....man the production and game intros surpass LCS by far. Really cool......but Monte is annoying as hell

He is a lot more frank with his assessment of a teams performance, not sugar coating stuff. Nothing wrong with that.

His overuse of the word "rotations" bugs me

How is it over used? That's how Koreans play the game.

because we're not playing WoW?
where it's used most and its not even remotely similar in league?

i guess unless its talking about describing moving lanes, which is okay i guess. have seen several people post rotations to describe spell use here though and it erks me

When we talk about rotations, it's generally referring to changing lanes, not running through spells.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 14 2014 04:24 GMT
#767
How big is two champion reworks instead of just one?
kiss kiss fall in love
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
February 14 2014 04:25 GMT
#768
On February 14 2014 10:36 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 10:28 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 14 2014 10:28 killerdog wrote:
On February 14 2014 10:03 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 14 2014 09:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
janna is a hard counter to leona when you start playing with the really good ones. Teamfights are another story, leona is still as effective as ever there.


I feel in S2/3 Janna countered Leona really hard in lane. This could be due to Janna being OP (especially in S3), I don't know, but nowadays as Janna you do like 20 damage per auto against a Leona who regens like 4 health per second so I do feel it's better to just afk in brush.


Janna has great teamfighting, but a shitty lane which can be abused.
Janna's q shuts down any hope leona ever has of engaging ever at all ever. (and her ult can let you just walk away if leona ever manages to get near somehow)
Leona can't do anything in lane so it's just a farm lane.
something something
profit



I feel that's unrealistic expectation for the Janna player to be able to do this every time.

Anything outside of topnotch competitive play, it's pretty silly to expect anyone to be able to do that.

You use to start seeing it in low plat, though YMMV. Not consistently, but that improves as you go up.

It's a mechanical skill that isn't that hard to do with Leona's telegraphing. If you see a W or her E animation, double tap Q.


Biggest issue for Janna is if Leona lands her ulti for initiate on Janna.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
February 14 2014 04:25 GMT
#769
On February 14 2014 13:11 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 13:01 Yezzus wrote:
Do you guys feel that this years Allstar NA team will be wayyyy more stacked than last years and might make some noise? AD- Dlift Mid- Bjerg Jungle - Meteos Support- Xspecial? and top - I guess Dyrus?

Dont think it would be that stacked... it would basically be TSM+ Dlift&Meteos. They might be able to make some noise with Bjerg+Meteos but who knows, NA did not win anything in the last allstars except for reaching to the finals of the 2v2

Well obviously last years team was much weaker hence why I said this year they look like they will actually
Compete
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 04:29:49
February 14 2014 04:29 GMT
#770
In other news, ranked Q's are back up and the "server lag" is supposedly fixed
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 14 2014 04:31 GMT
#771
On February 14 2014 13:25 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 10:36 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 14 2014 10:28 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 14 2014 10:28 killerdog wrote:
On February 14 2014 10:03 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 14 2014 09:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
janna is a hard counter to leona when you start playing with the really good ones. Teamfights are another story, leona is still as effective as ever there.


I feel in S2/3 Janna countered Leona really hard in lane. This could be due to Janna being OP (especially in S3), I don't know, but nowadays as Janna you do like 20 damage per auto against a Leona who regens like 4 health per second so I do feel it's better to just afk in brush.


Janna has great teamfighting, but a shitty lane which can be abused.
Janna's q shuts down any hope leona ever has of engaging ever at all ever. (and her ult can let you just walk away if leona ever manages to get near somehow)
Leona can't do anything in lane so it's just a farm lane.
something something
profit



I feel that's unrealistic expectation for the Janna player to be able to do this every time.

Anything outside of topnotch competitive play, it's pretty silly to expect anyone to be able to do that.

You use to start seeing it in low plat, though YMMV. Not consistently, but that improves as you go up.

It's a mechanical skill that isn't that hard to do with Leona's telegraphing. If you see a W or her E animation, double tap Q.


Biggest issue for Janna is if Leona lands her ulti for initiate on Janna.

I meant consistently, because even if Janna can do it 75% of the time, those 25% of the times is whats going to lose them the game.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35145 Posts
February 14 2014 04:39 GMT
#772
On February 14 2014 10:02 Steins;Gate wrote:
League of Legends Episode V: The EUW Servers Strikes Back


EUW servers fight back by crashing.

On February 14 2014 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 12:34 Yezzus wrote:
Watching OGN on twitch....man the production and game intros surpass LCS by far. Really cool......but Monte is annoying as hell

you're in the wrong neighborhood.

This is our town scrub.
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
February 14 2014 04:40 GMT
#773
I think Janna QQ vs Leona is easier than Thresh Flay in terms of timing, and Flay vs Zenith Blade isnt really hard.

What gets really scary is when Leona learns to use Ctrl+3 to bait everyone into using their interrupts.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 04:43:08
February 14 2014 04:43 GMT
#774
On February 14 2014 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 12:34 Yezzus wrote:
Watching OGN on twitch....man the production and game intros surpass LCS by far. Really cool......but Monte is annoying as hell

you're in the wrong neighborhood.

This is our town scrub.


Yeah, beat it!
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 14 2014 04:50 GMT
#775
On February 14 2014 13:40 silencefc wrote:
I think Janna QQ vs Leona is easier than Thresh Flay in terms of timing, and Flay vs Zenith Blade isnt really hard.

What gets really scary is when Leona learns to use Ctrl+3 to bait everyone into using their interrupts.


i've actually been meaning to try it out, i sometimes manage to bait dashes etc with lee taunt/dance (where he kicks above his head)
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 14 2014 04:58 GMT
#776
On February 14 2014 13:12 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 13:11 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 14 2014 13:05 Yezzus wrote:
On February 14 2014 13:04 Amui wrote:
On February 14 2014 12:34 Yezzus wrote:
Watching OGN on twitch....man the production and game intros surpass LCS by far. Really cool......but Monte is annoying as hell

He is a lot more frank with his assessment of a teams performance, not sugar coating stuff. Nothing wrong with that.

His overuse of the word "rotations" bugs me

How is it over used? That's how Koreans play the game.

because we're not playing WoW?
where it's used most and its not even remotely similar in league?

i guess unless its talking about describing moving lanes, which is okay i guess. have seen several people post rotations to describe spell use here though and it erks me

Yeah... that's what rotation is used for. It's nothing like the way it's used in wow.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
February 14 2014 05:15 GMT
#777
On February 14 2014 13:13 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 13:01 silencefc wrote:
Well, Monte is no Moletrap.


To compare Montecristo with Moletrap would be a serious insult to Monte.


And yet Moletrap is one of the commentators who got me into Korean SC1 and is how I discovered TL. Crazy.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 05:23:14
February 14 2014 05:21 GMT
#778
Rotation is a good term for describing the movement from one lane to another. Cycle, revolve and a few other words don't really fit the action as smoothly. Different terms mean different things for different games.

I too come from a WoW background, but it doesn't annoy me all that much. LoL doesn't really have rotations as much as combo's. While you're trying to be efficient, you aren't trying to maximize DPCT or DPS as much as stuff like CC uptime or burst. It's not like playing WoW where you have to follow the stack debuffx2>haunt>corruption>CoA>UA>(drainsoul if under 20%)>shadowbolt without clipping dots or god forbid letting NMIC corruption drop.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 14 2014 05:25 GMT
#779
On February 14 2014 14:21 Amui wrote:
Rotation is a good term for describing the movement from one lane to another. Cycle, revolve and a few other words don't really fit the action as smoothly. Different terms mean different things for different games.

I too come from a WoW background, but it doesn't annoy me all that much. LoL doesn't really have rotations as much as combo's. While you're trying to be efficient, you aren't trying to maximize DPCT or DPS as much as stuff like CC uptime or burst. It's not like playing WoW where you have to follow the stack debuffx2>haunt>corruption>CoA>UA>(drainsoul if under 20%)>shadowbolt without clipping dots or god forbid letting NMIC corruption drop.

The only champs I can really think of that has (or had) standard rotations are Anivia and Leblanc.
liftlift > tsm
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 05:36:03
February 14 2014 05:35 GMT
#780
At that point, their spell rotation is really just a "combo" and I think that's how a lot of people refer to it as.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
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