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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 14 2014 00:18 GMT
#721
So at this point i am wondering what i supposed to do as ranged supports against leona/thresh. If They start dorans shield and my aa's are doing 26 damage. At least against leona you used to be able to bully her pre-3 but at this point it seems i am better off afking in lane than harassing, which is boring.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 14 2014 00:27 GMT
#722
On February 14 2014 08:39 Parnage wrote:
I agree entirely that the EUW servers need major help, I don't agree with the idea that now NA is doomed now as well due to what most would conclude is a patch issue. I do have issue to say that no other games have ever had this problem because not only is that not the case it just makes it sound like only Riot has issues with bad servers. I am not excusing them but I am not surprised and neither should anyone else at this point.


v- Yeah I was going to go on a rant about how internets going to get worse in the US thanks to this but it's just pointless to preach to the choir. Only hope for good net at this point is hoping Google just takes over the nation and upgrades for sake of it's rule.

we've had days like this before, and now people are crying we're going to be come euw?
is this for real?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 14 2014 00:37 GMT
#723
On February 14 2014 09:18 layabout wrote:
So at this point i am wondering what i supposed to do as ranged supports against leona/thresh. If They start dorans shield and my aa's are doing 26 damage. At least against leona you used to be able to bully her pre-3 but at this point it seems i am better off afking in lane than harassing, which is boring.


I tried playing Janna against Leona a few times this season... basically you ask her to be gentle.

I guess if I can Q all of her Es I can win, but until then
...
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 14 2014 00:39 GMT
#724
janna is a hard counter to leona when you start playing with the really good ones. Teamfights are another story, leona is still as effective as ever there.
I come in for the scraps
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 01:01:55
February 14 2014 01:00 GMT
#725
Looks like Riot removed the part about random first pick in DuoQ from the patch notes because it probably didn't work.

I'll refrain from mentioning statistical details regarding priors and posteriors.
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Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
February 14 2014 01:02 GMT
#726
League of Legends Episode V: The EUW Servers Strikes Back

" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 14 2014 01:03 GMT
#727
On February 14 2014 09:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
janna is a hard counter to leona when you start playing with the really good ones. Teamfights are another story, leona is still as effective as ever there.


I feel in S2/3 Janna countered Leona really hard in lane. This could be due to Janna being OP (especially in S3), I don't know, but nowadays as Janna you do like 20 damage per auto against a Leona who regens like 4 health per second so I do feel it's better to just afk in brush.
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silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
February 14 2014 01:04 GMT
#728
On February 14 2014 09:18 layabout wrote:
So at this point i am wondering what i supposed to do as ranged supports against leona/thresh. If They start dorans shield and my aa's are doing 26 damage. At least against leona you used to be able to bully her pre-3 but at this point it seems i am better off afking in lane than harassing, which is boring.


You harass the AD when he goes for last hits instead.

When I play something like Lulu vs Leona, I harass the AD and 100% ignore Leona. Just Whimsy the AD when Leona goes in and keep ignoring her.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 14 2014 01:06 GMT
#729
Also just shielding your ad so he wins trade 1v1 since you block leona from jumping makes it rather easy to get lane dominance.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 14 2014 01:09 GMT
#730
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 01:15:14
February 14 2014 01:12 GMT
#731
but if i am harassing the ad leona can engage onto me. and then my adc cant hit theirs and both of them can hit me and we cant kill leona.

and since i cant poke at leona she can stay close enough to be in position to stop me.

also riot needs to get revert the preemptive supports might buy ap nerfs.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 14 2014 01:13 GMT
#732
On February 14 2014 10:04 silencefc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 09:18 layabout wrote:
So at this point i am wondering what i supposed to do as ranged supports against leona/thresh. If They start dorans shield and my aa's are doing 26 damage. At least against leona you used to be able to bully her pre-3 but at this point it seems i am better off afking in lane than harassing, which is boring.


You harass the AD when he goes for last hits instead.

When I play something like Lulu vs Leona, I harass the AD and 100% ignore Leona. Just Whimsy the AD when Leona goes in and keep ignoring her.


OK so you walk toward the adc to harass, and Leona walks towards you. What do you do? Do you:

Harass the ADC anyway and take a Leona E on your face, or
Kite Leona instead?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 14 2014 01:17 GMT
#733
On February 14 2014 10:13 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 10:04 silencefc wrote:
On February 14 2014 09:18 layabout wrote:
So at this point i am wondering what i supposed to do as ranged supports against leona/thresh. If They start dorans shield and my aa's are doing 26 damage. At least against leona you used to be able to bully her pre-3 but at this point it seems i am better off afking in lane than harassing, which is boring.


You harass the AD when he goes for last hits instead.

When I play something like Lulu vs Leona, I harass the AD and 100% ignore Leona. Just Whimsy the AD when Leona goes in and keep ignoring her.


OK so you walk toward the adc to harass, and Leona walks towards you. What do you do? Do you:

Harass the ADC anyway and take a Leona E on your face, or
Kite Leona instead?

run the other way cuz leona is scary
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 14 2014 01:19 GMT
#734
On February 14 2014 10:17 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 10:13 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 14 2014 10:04 silencefc wrote:
On February 14 2014 09:18 layabout wrote:
So at this point i am wondering what i supposed to do as ranged supports against leona/thresh. If They start dorans shield and my aa's are doing 26 damage. At least against leona you used to be able to bully her pre-3 but at this point it seems i am better off afking in lane than harassing, which is boring.


You harass the AD when he goes for last hits instead.

When I play something like Lulu vs Leona, I harass the AD and 100% ignore Leona. Just Whimsy the AD when Leona goes in and keep ignoring her.


OK so you walk toward the adc to harass, and Leona walks towards you. What do you do? Do you:

Harass the ADC anyway and take a Leona E on your face, or
Kite Leona instead?

run the other way cuz leona is scary


Sadly I feel that is a valid option as well.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 01:26:07
February 14 2014 01:20 GMT
#735
On February 14 2014 10:13 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 10:04 silencefc wrote:
On February 14 2014 09:18 layabout wrote:
So at this point i am wondering what i supposed to do as ranged supports against leona/thresh. If They start dorans shield and my aa's are doing 26 damage. At least against leona you used to be able to bully her pre-3 but at this point it seems i am better off afking in lane than harassing, which is boring.


You harass the AD when he goes for last hits instead.

When I play something like Lulu vs Leona, I harass the AD and 100% ignore Leona. Just Whimsy the AD when Leona goes in and keep ignoring her.


OK so you walk toward the adc to harass, and Leona walks towards you. What do you do? Do you:

Harass the ADC anyway and take a Leona E on your face, or
Kite Leona instead?


Why walk towards the adc to harass them? Just stand beside your minions and force him to walk into you to last hit. Obviously you can't force harass if your adc is standing way behind you and farming, you both need to keep the line together to force the enemy duo to choose between backing off out of cs range, or eating poke every time they try to farm.

If you just ward their brush, then get right up in the wave with your adc + lulu, they can't approach the wave to farm for level 1/2 without you + your adc getting an auto or two off, and if they try to engage, just both go onto their adc. Also try not to get e'd if you're adc isn't in position to support you, if that happens and you're ad isn't able to go straight onto their adc, then you're probably kind of screwed.
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
February 14 2014 01:22 GMT
#736
You ignore Leona.

If she uses her abilities on you, you Whimsy their AD and yours should be hitting theirs and you land EQ.

If your AD farms while this shit goes on, THEN you afk in bush because your partner is incompetent.

You also probably want to be standing closer to river than the bushes if Leona likes to sit in there. You'll be closer to their AD than Leona is to you.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
February 14 2014 01:22 GMT
#737
Yeah Leona is the few supports that I feel so scared of in lane to do anything. Her pressure by just threatening to go all in is insane, not many supports can scrap with her
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
February 14 2014 01:24 GMT
#738
tfw the Titanfall devs are ddosing league servers so people watch Titanfall on twitch instead
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
February 14 2014 01:24 GMT
#739
On February 14 2014 10:24 Dusty wrote:
tfw the Titanfall devs are ddosing league servers so people watch Titanfall on twitch instead

I wouldnt be surprised lol
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 14 2014 01:25 GMT
#740
On February 14 2014 10:03 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 09:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
janna is a hard counter to leona when you start playing with the really good ones. Teamfights are another story, leona is still as effective as ever there.


I feel in S2/3 Janna countered Leona really hard in lane. This could be due to Janna being OP (especially in S3), I don't know, but nowadays as Janna you do like 20 damage per auto against a Leona who regens like 4 health per second so I do feel it's better to just afk in brush.


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