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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 20:19:01
February 13 2014 20:17 GMT
#681
Nvm I derped.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 13 2014 20:18 GMT
#682
I think doing a camp inbetween is better. You get last buff for longer.

I mean, unless red is critical for you to farm wolves.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
February 13 2014 20:21 GMT
#683
what's the point of going straight to the second buffcamp though if you won't hit lvl 3 with it.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 13 2014 20:22 GMT
#684
On February 14 2014 04:36 Alaric wrote:
You won't hit level 3 off of it so I'm not sure if it's that superior.

^ I'm not talking about killing people, I built full tank because I had to, Riven was bad as heck but Jinx was getting a bunch of kills so I wanted to be able to do my job. When I noticed that I couldn't even zone her because she'd drop half my HP by herself if she hit zap into auto-chompers while my ult was down, and that with 200+ armour when she had IE/PD/LW and her steroid, I wasn't going to build more damage.

We lost in the end because we made bad calls during fights (we had Ezreal, Elise and Nidalee so going in early wasn't a good idea, but Thresh dived in at their last inhib tower as soon as he hooked Jinx, so we couldn't finish the game, and later Elise dc'd during a fight over nashor so the 4v5 sealed the deal), doesn't mean Riven wasn't bad as heck (his decision path in fights was "I'm alone -> burn all dashes in a row to run ; at least an ally in range -> burn all dashes in a row on Olaf", not even making it up), or that Jinx didn't somehow shred my 9200 physical EHP post-LW at that time (around 6100 he did by himself though) in less than 10s and without his ult.


There is a thread for this...
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 13 2014 20:22 GMT
#685
arb's amount is taking really long to compute.....

Fuck you NP-hard.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 20:27:32
February 13 2014 20:26 GMT
#686
On February 14 2014 05:21 AsnSensation wrote:
what's the point of going straight to the second buffcamp though if you won't hit lvl 3 with it.

Putting pressure on early if you want to do a really fast gank. Part below was me misreading.

Putting the camp on CD. More importantly, allows you to hit level 3 slightly faster because you don't have to double back to do a camp.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
February 13 2014 20:27 GMT
#687
On February 14 2014 05:22 Sufficiency wrote:
arb's amount is taking really long to compute.....

Fuck you NP-hard.


Give your poor CPU a rest and just consider that you can draw Riot a picture to make up for any ~40 RP gap.
I am the Town Medic.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 13 2014 20:32 GMT
#688
On February 14 2014 05:21 AsnSensation wrote:
what's the point of going straight to the second buffcamp though if you won't hit lvl 3 with it.

What I've seen is, for example if you start blue buff, and you contest at their red buff immediately after your buff. So the enemy jungler who did the small camp in between is worse off than you because they did small camp; but still at level 2 with you.

It's pretty fucking cheezy, but you'd be surprised how well it works.

Also, another thing you can do is grab level 2 off both buffs, gank or pressure a lane, use lane xp to get to 3.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 13 2014 20:34 GMT
#689
On February 14 2014 05:07 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 04:57 Sufficiency wrote:
If you are interested, tellme your remaining RP and I will (attempt) to tell you how to get it to 0.

106



Buy 650 RP 3 times (15 dollars)

Buy one 260rp champ or 520 skin on sale
Buy one 260rp champ on sale
Buy one 585rp champ
Buy two 585rp champ on sale
Buy one 975rp champ or skin on sale
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 13 2014 20:39 GMT
#690
On February 14 2014 05:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 05:21 AsnSensation wrote:
what's the point of going straight to the second buffcamp though if you won't hit lvl 3 with it.

What I've seen is, for example if you start blue buff, and you contest at their red buff immediately after your buff. So the enemy jungler who did the small camp in between is worse off than you because they did small camp; but still at level 2 with you.

It's pretty fucking cheezy, but you'd be surprised how well it works.

Also, another thing you can do is grab level 2 off both buffs, gank or pressure a lane, use lane xp to get to 3.


This makes sense. Maybe I should try doing this more often.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 20:49:50
February 13 2014 20:46 GMT
#691
On February 14 2014 05:39 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 05:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 14 2014 05:21 AsnSensation wrote:
what's the point of going straight to the second buffcamp though if you won't hit lvl 3 with it.

What I've seen is, for example if you start blue buff, and you contest at their red buff immediately after your buff. So the enemy jungler who did the small camp in between is worse off than you because they did small camp; but still at level 2 with you.

It's pretty fucking cheezy, but you'd be surprised how well it works.

Also, another thing you can do is grab level 2 off both buffs, gank or pressure a lane, use lane xp to get to 3.


This makes sense. Maybe I should try doing this more often.

It's only really exploitable if you invade early and place ward in their buff to see if they're starting there. (usually you can trinket it, and walk out).
liftlift > tsm
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
February 13 2014 20:50 GMT
#692
On February 14 2014 05:46 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 05:39 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 14 2014 05:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 14 2014 05:21 AsnSensation wrote:
what's the point of going straight to the second buffcamp though if you won't hit lvl 3 with it.

What I've seen is, for example if you start blue buff, and you contest at their red buff immediately after your buff. So the enemy jungler who did the small camp in between is worse off than you because they did small camp; but still at level 2 with you.

It's pretty fucking cheezy, but you'd be surprised how well it works.

Also, another thing you can do is grab level 2 off both buffs, gank or pressure a lane, use lane xp to get to 3.


This makes sense. Maybe I should try doing this more often.

It's only really exploitable if you invade early and place ward in their buff to see if they're starting there. (usually you can trinket it, and walk out).

You only need to look at the top and bot lane's presence to know which buff they start first.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 13 2014 21:05 GMT
#693
On February 14 2014 05:50 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 05:46 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 14 2014 05:39 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 14 2014 05:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 14 2014 05:21 AsnSensation wrote:
what's the point of going straight to the second buffcamp though if you won't hit lvl 3 with it.

What I've seen is, for example if you start blue buff, and you contest at their red buff immediately after your buff. So the enemy jungler who did the small camp in between is worse off than you because they did small camp; but still at level 2 with you.

It's pretty fucking cheezy, but you'd be surprised how well it works.

Also, another thing you can do is grab level 2 off both buffs, gank or pressure a lane, use lane xp to get to 3.


This makes sense. Maybe I should try doing this more often.

It's only really exploitable if you invade early and place ward in their buff to see if they're starting there. (usually you can trinket it, and walk out).

You only need to look at the top and bot lane's presence to know which buff they start first.

you'd be surprised how many times sidelanes don't help with buff control, just for lane advantage push.
liftlift > tsm
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 21:11:12
February 13 2014 21:08 GMT
#694
On February 14 2014 06:05 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 05:50 canikizu wrote:
On February 14 2014 05:46 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 14 2014 05:39 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 14 2014 05:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 14 2014 05:21 AsnSensation wrote:
what's the point of going straight to the second buffcamp though if you won't hit lvl 3 with it.

What I've seen is, for example if you start blue buff, and you contest at their red buff immediately after your buff. So the enemy jungler who did the small camp in between is worse off than you because they did small camp; but still at level 2 with you.

It's pretty fucking cheezy, but you'd be surprised how well it works.

Also, another thing you can do is grab level 2 off both buffs, gank or pressure a lane, use lane xp to get to 3.


This makes sense. Maybe I should try doing this more often.

It's only really exploitable if you invade early and place ward in their buff to see if they're starting there. (usually you can trinket it, and walk out).

You only need to look at the top and bot lane's presence to know which buff they start first.

you'd be surprised how many times sidelanes don't help with buff control, just for lane advantage push.

But in that case you'll see both lanes show up, so you have big advantage.
You can just finish blue, do wolf, and then go invade and still make it on time.
If the other jungler even waits until last minute to smite blue then go straight to red buff, you will even have smite advantage.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
February 13 2014 21:20 GMT
#695
On February 14 2014 04:57 Sufficiency wrote:
If you are interested, tellme your remaining RP and I will (attempt) to tell you how to get it to 0.

I have 334, help me :D
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 13 2014 21:34 GMT
#696
On February 14 2014 06:20 SagaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 04:57 Sufficiency wrote:
If you are interested, tellme your remaining RP and I will (attempt) to tell you how to get it to 0.

I have 334, help me :D


Buy 650 RP

Buy one 260rp champ
Buy one 26prp champ on sale
Buy two 585 champs on sale
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
February 13 2014 21:43 GMT
#697
On February 14 2014 05:05 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 04:58 Gahlo wrote:
On February 14 2014 04:57 Sufficiency wrote:
If you are interested, tellme your remaining RP and I will (attempt) to tell you how to get it to 0.

0. Figure that one out.

Seriously though, find me a way to get the KT icon and then hit 0.



How much is that icon?

250 I think.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
February 13 2014 21:51 GMT
#698
3200 for both Regions all icons,
1600 for 1 region 8 Icons
250rp for 1 icon.

Buying the bundle obviously worth it in terms of total price (400rp+ if you buy each icon individually).

best way:
use 250rp this spring and get the only icon that matters (Digs)
washed
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 13 2014 21:53 GMT
#699
On February 14 2014 06:51 Vlanitak wrote:
3200 for both Regions all icons,
1600 for 1 region 8 Icons
250rp for 1 icon.

Buying the bundle obviously worth it in terms of total price (400rp+ if you buy each icon individually).

best way:
use 250rp this spring and get the only icon that matters (Digs)

lol the shameless plug is real.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 13 2014 21:57 GMT
#700
On February 14 2014 06:51 Vlanitak wrote:
3200 for both Regions all icons,
1600 for 1 region 8 Icons
250rp for 1 icon.

Buying the bundle obviously worth it in terms of total price (400rp+ if you buy each icon individually).

best way:
use 250rp this spring and get the only icon that matters (Digs)


I know you aren't the business manager, but you should suggest that Riot sell Headshots of your team as icons. I want to know how many people would buy a QTPie headshot so they could look at him during loading (or force opponents to look at him, whichever).
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