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[Patch 4.2] Xerath/Skarner General Discussion - Page 33

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The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
February 13 2014 13:00 GMT
#641
On February 13 2014 20:22 SwizzY wrote:
NA server is horseshit right now. And no loss prevention. Sweet.


I got one loss prevented
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22550 Posts
February 13 2014 13:14 GMT
#642
On February 13 2014 21:41 739 wrote:
EUW has an emergency maintenance every second day, so no1 should be suprised I guess. That's some shitty news for casual players like me, that have time to play 1 game daily after work and I'm not able to play 50% of games I have a time to play... what a disaster, how can you not handle dem servers, it keeps hapening over and over again.

Because there is no good way to fix a crap backbone coding without redoing the entire thing and Riot doesnt seem to be willing to take that step. Or if they are working on it there not saying anything about it.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Yttrasil
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden651 Posts
February 13 2014 13:50 GMT
#643
I just get a black screen with nothing on it after I log in after the maintanance and update on EUW, is it only me or?
Meh
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 14:36:58
February 13 2014 14:17 GMT
#644
On February 13 2014 13:16 iCanada wrote:
I already posted this in the Skarner thread on the strategy board, buts its worth noting, that with the Skarner Rework (Aka, moving attack speed steroid from W to Q), he is officially the fastest first clear jungler in the game.

If you do a clear that looks something like Blue > Wolves > Wraiths > Red > Golems you finish at 3:22 in game time. If you take the same route, Udyr clocks in at 3:29. With a good leash, both junglers can finish whole route at like 3 min.

Also ff note, this is about the same time (about 5-15 seconds longer) it takes some rather common junglers (Lee Sin, Vi, Panth, Elise, Jarvan etc) to clear Blue > Wraiths > Red.

For those uber farm junglers, new Skarner might be worth it to play. Not willing to comment on how good he is, havn't played him that much aside from a couple normal game stomps. But damn he kills jungle fast.

Incorrect on a lot things. Firstly, with correct runes, you don't finish at 3:22, but about 7 seconds faster. Secondly, that's still about 3-4 seconds slower than Kayle and Evelynn. That's despite the fact that Kayle suffers more from not having any help (her E runs out before she can finish her first buff). Thirdly, a good leash won't save you 29 seconds, not even close. All of the junglers above finish their buffs at approximately 2:09, a leash will reduce that by about 4-5 seconds, 6-7 if you're very lucky indeed. The main benefit of leash is not the time you save, but the hp you save.

That's not mentioning that this non-standard jungle path favours skarner over other champions, as it allows him to keep Q stacks from wraiths to red, something he wouldn't be ordinarily able to do.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 13 2014 14:49 GMT
#645
if riot isnt getting these attacks under control, they might as well shut down, because it wont get better.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 13 2014 14:53 GMT
#646
I am very tempted to try to go for golem spirit + razor just for the clear speed. Gonna try this...
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 15:45:56
February 13 2014 15:43 GMT
#647
On February 13 2014 15:43 ticklishmusic wrote:
Saw Meteos playing AP Skarner in the jungle and he was stupid strong lategame. His shield is all the tankiness you need, and his sustained DPS is pretty ridiculous.

EDIT: not ridiculous, but still very very strong

i assume he went spectral wraith? in my limited trials it seemed noticeably stronger than elder lizard if you go with an offensive jungle item.

abusing a shield with .8 AP scaling kind of like riven does with AD seems like an interesting way to play him.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 13 2014 16:01 GMT
#648
What the hell did they bust on Spartan and why is he still disabled?

-.-

QQ.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22550 Posts
February 13 2014 16:37 GMT
#649
On February 14 2014 01:01 iCanada wrote:
What the hell did they bust on Spartan and why is he still disabled?

-.-

QQ.

placing a ward makes him invisible.

i fail to see the problem but meh guess some do
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
February 13 2014 16:38 GMT
#650
On February 14 2014 01:01 iCanada wrote:
What the hell did they bust on Spartan and why is he still disabled?

-.-

QQ.


If he drops a ward, he becomes invisible. Think Phantom Assassin from DotA.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 13 2014 16:48 GMT
#651
How the hell did they create that bug?

o.o

FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 13 2014 16:51 GMT
#652
dont think its ever intentionally created lol
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 18:16:58
February 13 2014 16:58 GMT
#653
On February 14 2014 01:51 FinestHour wrote:
dont think its ever intentionally created lol


Lmao new hidden passive Cloak of Invisibility.

I thought of a better name, Shy Spartan.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 13 2014 17:07 GMT
#654
On February 14 2014 01:48 iCanada wrote:
How the hell did they create that bug?

o.o


You see when pantheon creates vision by placing down a ward he actually is converting the vision onto him onto the ward thus there is never any vision on pantheon himself making him invisible.
It's science okay.
Glorious SEA doto
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 13 2014 17:29 GMT
#655
On February 14 2014 01:48 iCanada wrote:
How the hell did they create that bug?

o.o



Bad merge? Honestly it could be a number of different things.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 13 2014 18:43 GMT
#656
On February 13 2014 23:17 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 13:16 iCanada wrote:
I already posted this in the Skarner thread on the strategy board, buts its worth noting, that with the Skarner Rework (Aka, moving attack speed steroid from W to Q), he is officially the fastest first clear jungler in the game.

If you do a clear that looks something like Blue > Wolves > Wraiths > Red > Golems you finish at 3:22 in game time. If you take the same route, Udyr clocks in at 3:29. With a good leash, both junglers can finish whole route at like 3 min.

Also ff note, this is about the same time (about 5-15 seconds longer) it takes some rather common junglers (Lee Sin, Vi, Panth, Elise, Jarvan etc) to clear Blue > Wraiths > Red.

For those uber farm junglers, new Skarner might be worth it to play. Not willing to comment on how good he is, havn't played him that much aside from a couple normal game stomps. But damn he kills jungle fast.

Incorrect on a lot things. Firstly, with correct runes, you don't finish at 3:22, but about 7 seconds faster. Secondly, that's still about 3-4 seconds slower than Kayle and Evelynn. That's despite the fact that Kayle suffers more from not having any help (her E runs out before she can finish her first buff). Thirdly, a good leash won't save you 29 seconds, not even close. All of the junglers above finish their buffs at approximately 2:09, a leash will reduce that by about 4-5 seconds, 6-7 if you're very lucky indeed. The main benefit of leash is not the time you save, but the hp you save.

That's not mentioning that this non-standard jungle path favours skarner over other champions, as it allows him to keep Q stacks from wraiths to red, something he wouldn't be ordinarily able to do.



What is your standard "farm" route?
Freeeeeeedom
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 18:48:37
February 13 2014 18:48 GMT
#657
It's standard to go blue-wolves-red or red-wraiths-blue, in order to avoid either the awkward 10s-ish wait or the travel from wight-wraiths or golems-wolves.
And to minimize the amount of camps you do at lvl2, you lose less hp if you get lvl3 a camp earlier. That's the less important part.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 13 2014 18:52 GMT
#658
lol reddit apparently discovered apdo and now 'he's better than faker imo'
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 13 2014 18:59 GMT
#659
On February 14 2014 03:48 Scip wrote:
It's standard to go blue-wolves-red or red-wraiths-blue, in order to avoid either the awkward 10s-ish wait or the travel from wight-wraiths or golems-wolves.
And to minimize the amount of camps you do at lvl2, you lose less hp if you get lvl3 a camp earlier. That's the less important part.


Are you not worried about the enemy jungle counterjungling and taking your second buff while you're at the wraith/wolf camp anymore?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 19:02:02
February 13 2014 19:00 GMT
#660
I go blues wolves wraiths red wait 5 seconds wraiths for level 4
i think if you go wolves and they try to steal red they will be too slow a

also you dont even hit level 3 if you go blue red so the risk isnt even close to worth because you are still only even with their jungle and their mid can rape you

my route has that risk but usually people don't expect it so they dont see an opening to take advantage unless they are jungling khazix or some faggot like that in which case i can just do standard route and be safe
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