EPT[Patch 4.2] Xerath/Skarner General Discussion - Page 31
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35167 Posts
On February 13 2014 15:00 gtrsrs wrote: i just can't think of a worse skill in the game right now than skarner's E. it's sooooo pointlessly weak, yet so core to anything he does. i would have it start at 60% and scale up or start at 80% and have increased slow duration per level or something. since you only get 1, it needs to basically be a stun to be worth it Frost shot. Shit is garbage without ranks, required, and maxed second. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 13 2014 15:00 gtrsrs wrote: i just can't think of a worse skill in the game right now than skarner's E. it's sooooo pointlessly weak, yet so core to anything he does. i would have it start at 60% and scale up or start at 80% and have increased slow duration per level or something. since you only get 1, it needs to basically be a stun to be worth it Yeah, kind of how i feel too. I really think it should be way longer or a hard CC. Just played a few ranked games (ie, games against people not 600+ elo below me) and wow, that was kind of... meh. One game I was huge early, we won like 20 minutes. Other game I just felt useless despite being uber farmed... did less damage than the support. Just felt like it impossible to stick to anything come late game. Coulda been a comp thing tho. My team was Shy, Skarner, Zed, Annie, Draven and they were Nami, Lucian, Gragas, Mundo, and Jax. I'll say this, ganking pre-6 on new Skarner is a waste of time. Dont do it. | ||
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Steins;Gate
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 13 2014 15:29 Steins;Gate wrote: pre-6 ganking on skarner was always a waste of time Not necessarily. If someone was in the middle of top lane they were pretty much dead from the perma-slow. Now if they in the middle of top lane they look worried for two seconds then get away. Even ideal "free kill" ganks have minimal at best chance of success unless laner has strong cc. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
EDIT: not ridiculous, but still very very strong | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 13 2014 15:43 ticklishmusic wrote: Saw Meteos playing AP Skarner in the jungle and he was stupid strong lategame. His shield is all the tankiness you need, and his sustained DPS is pretty ridiculous. EDIT: not ridiculous, but still very very strong Out of curiosity, what he say about new Skarner? He was probably the best scorpion player in the world. | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On February 13 2014 16:35 JazzVortical wrote: Wouldn't tri-force help the stickiness problem a bit? Stats all fit well on him, gets procs easily and has really high base AD. Meteos did do a game with Triforce, it seemed ok, but the problem there was lack of damage to the target he was hitting once he got to the backline. Though in that game he went tanky (Randuins, BV, Golem, etc.) | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 13 2014 16:35 JazzVortical wrote: Wouldn't tri-force help the stickiness problem a bit? Stats all fit well on him, gets procs easily and has really high base AD. IMO IBG is a better choice. more AP, which he does well with, more tank stats, and mana he needs pretty badly. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35167 Posts
Clearly Riot is telling me that I'm pro and in elo hell. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35167 Posts
League has made it into the olympics'+ Show Spoiler + media coverage. | ||
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YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On February 13 2014 17:00 wei2coolman wrote: IMO IBG is a better choice. more AP, which he does well with, more tank stats, and mana he needs pretty badly. Both are fine IMO. Incoming gold should really be your only marker for deciding which to get. IBG is great because of the synergy with his passive/shield, triforce because he uses every single stat there, and either way he can pretty much get a sheen proc every second or third auto. On February 13 2014 17:39 YouGotNothin wrote: Would Nashor's be decent on Skarner? He can certainly use all of the stats it provides quite well. I could see like SotA -> IBG -> BV -> Sunfire/Randuins -> Nashors or some order like that being a pretty sweet combo of items on him: Max CDR, lots of tank and a decent bit of damage in there too. I don't think so. first 2 items are fine, but SV is almost always going to be better than BV, and randuins+IBG is not enough armor to really survive past 30 or 40 minutes. I'd almost always reserve it for a GA or Thornmail if I could. Nashor's just doesn't provide enough to justify the item slot because lategame skarner is less so initiation/DPS and more peel/facetanking shit because of his low CD shield, and slowly attritioning champs down. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 13 2014 17:39 YouGotNothin wrote: Would Nashor's be decent on Skarner? He can certainly use all of the stats it provides quite well. I could see like SotA -> IBG -> BV -> Sunfire/Randuins -> Nashors or some order like that being a pretty sweet combo of items on him: Max CDR, lots of tank and a decent bit of damage in there too. I don't think Skarner auto attacks enough in a teamfight to warrant the building of nashors. When thinking about builds, you have to think about, if I had a choice of all the remaining items to replace this item, would I? and considering how Skarner is played, I would definitely rather have another item in there. also, zhonya's skarner for ultimate swag btw. Go in, pretend to ulti, pop zhonya's instead, bait out 3 ultis, chase enemy scum down with no longer any fear of getting blown up. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35167 Posts
Note: I do not play Skarner, never have, and have no intention to atm. Just asking in case it's something worth passing on. | ||
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