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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
December 12 2013 22:42 GMT
#41
1) Garen's Judgement deals full damage to jungle monsters. inc Garen jungle?

2) Fiora ulti fix for revealed stealth, wheeee.

3) Fiddle/Rammus CC nerfs. otoh, they were the most annoyingly long spells. otoh, I don't feel like, powerwise, they needed it.

4) Sivir/Lucian nerfs are fairly light, all told, but bring them into line. Would probably recommend Varus as new go-to ADC in solo Q now for lane bullying.

5) Still nothing buffing Madreds/Wriggles into viability.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
December 12 2013 22:46 GMT
#42
Kind of sad that we dont see anything on the new spells and runes that was announced.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 12 2013 22:46 GMT
#43
So now I can play Lucian again, since he won't get banned. :3
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
December 12 2013 22:49 GMT
#44
Biggest buff in this patch is to pantheon.

He can use his W on minions, including allied minions.

o.o

Awesome.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 22:50:06
December 12 2013 22:49 GMT
#45
On December 13 2013 07:30 Gahlo wrote:
"Hey guys, we reworked Sivir's kit!"
*proceeds to shit on her ult*
"Hey guys, we reworked Sivir's kit and gave her a makover!"
*proceed to shit on her ult*

Never change, Rita.

Wait, are you implying it didnt need to be nerfed?

I would say I like almost everything about the changes. A shame the LCS promotion tournament wil be played on 3.14 and not 3.15.
Off-season = best season
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 12 2013 22:50 GMT
#46
Also, continued trend of making ulti's extremely cheap mana cost... :/ Not sure if I agree.

Don't know if Rammus CC is necessarily needed the nerf, definitely a solo queue targeted nerf. Rammus puts himself in harms way to pull it off, as opposed to Fiddle's fear which has far less commitment. Also, wonder why they put it at 2.25 instead of 2.5.
liftlift > tsm
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
December 12 2013 22:55 GMT
#47
On December 13 2013 07:49 iCanada wrote:
Biggest buff in this patch is to pantheon.

He can use his W on minions, including allied minions.

o.o

Awesome.


Can he really use it on allied minions? 'cause the patch notes specifically say enemy minions and jungle monsters.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 12 2013 22:55 GMT
#48
On December 13 2013 07:50 wei2coolman wrote:
Also, continued trend of making ulti's extremely cheap mana cost... :/ Not sure if I agree.

Don't know if Rammus CC is necessarily needed the nerf, definitely a solo queue targeted nerf. Rammus puts himself in harms way to pull it off, as opposed to Fiddle's fear which has far less commitment. Also, wonder why they put it at 2.25 instead of 2.5.


u say that, but think about all those guys out there with no costs on their spells period :{[[[
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
December 12 2013 23:00 GMT
#49
Temporary attack speed buffs now update champion's attack speed immediately, rather than after the first attack

LOL

Well played, Riot, well played.
yango pls
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 12 2013 23:00 GMT
#50
On December 13 2013 07:03 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 07:01 SagaZ wrote:
Eve and Riven still untouched sad face

After olaf riot are terrified of touching any overwhelmingly strong top laner in case he ends up being olaf'd.
That being said olaf is a viably strong pick that doesn't seem overpowering now... so I guess rito pulled it off in the end?


Meh. That isn't the point. He is balanced (ish) in 1 patch. The test is if small meta shifts he doesn't just teeter into total OPness (like Zed this Summer/Fall) or fall into obscurity (Malphite is a good example, because he hasn't really been changed). Plus, I honestly think Olaf is not even being used that well even by OGN junglers, too many still use his ult like the old olaf ult and basically get exploded.
Freeeeeeedom
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 12 2013 23:04 GMT
#51
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 23:06:16
December 12 2013 23:05 GMT
#52
On December 13 2013 08:00 NotYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
Temporary attack speed buffs now update champion's attack speed immediately, rather than after the first attack

LOL

Well played, Riot, well played.

? I don't get it?

olaf by himself = good
olaf + sivir = a fucking viking god that walks around raping and pillaging your backline.
liftlift > tsm
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
December 12 2013 23:06 GMT
#53
I hate normalizing characters when balancing games. Fiddlesticks/rammus CC being super long was part of their champion and I feel like whenever those characters need a nerf, instead of nerfing their CC something else could be nerf. Maybe fiddlesticks silence could deal less damage or he could be squishier and rammus could do less damage or something but I hate nerfing signature characteristics.

I'm a fan of the plague + irradiate + storm balancing I guess. Everything extremely OP.
Jaedong :3
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 12 2013 23:06 GMT
#54
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 12 2013 23:07 GMT
#55
On December 13 2013 08:06 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 07:49 iCanada wrote:
Biggest buff in this patch is to pantheon.

He can use his W on minions, including allied minions.

o.o

Awesome.


is it possible to jump walls consistently now?
like behind golem wall. it also refreshes ur passive which is pretty boss too for getaways :o

Wait, does this apply to wards as well? So gud with trinket.
liftlift > tsm
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 23:10:24
December 12 2013 23:09 GMT
#56
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 12 2013 23:16 GMT
#57
On December 13 2013 08:09 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 08:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 13 2013 08:06 krndandaman wrote:
On December 13 2013 07:49 iCanada wrote:
Biggest buff in this patch is to pantheon.

He can use his W on minions, including allied minions.

o.o

Awesome.


is it possible to jump walls consistently now?
like behind golem wall. it also refreshes ur passive which is pretty boss too for getaways :o

Wait, does this apply to wards as well? So gud with trinket.


nah only minions and monsters. still pretty useful tho

edit: wait.. this change is actually a really nice buff to panth. mobility in the jungle + can nicely escape in lane kinda like a jax Q

That's weird that it doesn't apply to wards :/
all similar abilities have ward jump with it, kat shunpo, and jax leap strike.
should keep ability continuity imo.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 12 2013 23:19 GMT
#58
On December 13 2013 08:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 08:09 krndandaman wrote:
On December 13 2013 08:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 13 2013 08:06 krndandaman wrote:
On December 13 2013 07:49 iCanada wrote:
Biggest buff in this patch is to pantheon.

He can use his W on minions, including allied minions.

o.o

Awesome.


is it possible to jump walls consistently now?
like behind golem wall. it also refreshes ur passive which is pretty boss too for getaways :o

Wait, does this apply to wards as well? So gud with trinket.


nah only minions and monsters. still pretty useful tho

edit: wait.. this change is actually a really nice buff to panth. mobility in the jungle + can nicely escape in lane kinda like a jax Q

That's weird that it doesn't apply to wards :/
all similar abilities have ward jump with it, kat shunpo, and jax leap strike.
should keep ability continuity imo.


Yeah! Like Irelia Q!
Freeeeeeedom
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 12 2013 23:20 GMT
#59
On December 13 2013 08:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 08:09 krndandaman wrote:
On December 13 2013 08:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 13 2013 08:06 krndandaman wrote:
On December 13 2013 07:49 iCanada wrote:
Biggest buff in this patch is to pantheon.

He can use his W on minions, including allied minions.

o.o

Awesome.


is it possible to jump walls consistently now?
like behind golem wall. it also refreshes ur passive which is pretty boss too for getaways :o

Wait, does this apply to wards as well? So gud with trinket.


nah only minions and monsters. still pretty useful tho

edit: wait.. this change is actually a really nice buff to panth. mobility in the jungle + can nicely escape in lane kinda like a jax Q

That's weird that it doesn't apply to wards :/
all similar abilities have ward jump with it, kat shunpo, and jax leap strike.
should keep ability continuity imo.

It doesn't apply to allied units; why should it apply to wards?

There are plenty of targeted jumps that only jumps to enemy units.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 12 2013 23:21 GMT
#60
On December 13 2013 08:20 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 08:16 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 13 2013 08:09 krndandaman wrote:
On December 13 2013 08:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 13 2013 08:06 krndandaman wrote:
On December 13 2013 07:49 iCanada wrote:
Biggest buff in this patch is to pantheon.

He can use his W on minions, including allied minions.

o.o

Awesome.


is it possible to jump walls consistently now?
like behind golem wall. it also refreshes ur passive which is pretty boss too for getaways :o

Wait, does this apply to wards as well? So gud with trinket.


nah only minions and monsters. still pretty useful tho

edit: wait.. this change is actually a really nice buff to panth. mobility in the jungle + can nicely escape in lane kinda like a jax Q

That's weird that it doesn't apply to wards :/
all similar abilities have ward jump with it, kat shunpo, and jax leap strike.
should keep ability continuity imo.

It doesn't apply to allied units; why should it apply to wards?

There are plenty of targeted jumps that only jumps to enemy units.

oh shit, misread, thought it was all minions and monsters. derp.
liftlift > tsm
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