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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
January 14 2014 17:53 GMT
#4441
I've never played League of Legends with less than 95 ping. The only time where it really matters to me is the Kayle v Darius matchup: I find it difficult to consistently react to his ult with my ult. On very low ping days I am able to cast it right as I see him jump up, but on higher ping days that does not work.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 17:59:24
January 14 2014 17:55 GMT
#4442
On January 15 2014 02:39 Ketara wrote:
Is NA really that unforgiving ping wise to east coast people?

I'm in San Diego and regularly get ping of like, 10.

I still miss skillshots tho.



It is a huge difference.

I always use this example because it is how I feel. I used to be on the west coast with 40 ping. There when I see a NNautilusganking me, I use vlad's pool after seeing the hook is about to hit me. On east coast with 90-100 ping I pool after seeing animation.

Simply put, most skillshots have 1000-1500ish speed. With 100 ping it means any skillshot in 300-400 range WILL land and you can't flash out of it (you can't react instantly; often you need about 10-50ms to react depending on how obvious the cue is). Yes Elise I am looking at you.

Now, how much this really matters is debatable. Westdoor0204 used to be 2600+ elo on NA with almost 200 ping, so obviously it is not detrimental. But still there is a difference and I am sure h could have gotten higher with 10 ping.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 14 2014 18:17 GMT
#4443
Check out ELO Distribution by ping (charts are out there) if you dont think it matters.
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Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
January 14 2014 18:46 GMT
#4444
Of course it matters. But there are a great many players like me who would suck regardless of the instantaneousness of our internet. Urban East Coast seems to run between ~90 and ~115 as anecdotal ranges for myself and henchlings. You get used to it when it's stable but when it jumps a bit above that for an afternoon it feels like playing by semaphore.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 14 2014 19:07 GMT
#4445
On January 15 2014 03:46 Haiq343 wrote:
Of course it matters. But there are a great many players like me who would suck regardless of the instantaneousness of our internet. Urban East Coast seems to run between ~90 and ~115 as anecdotal ranges for myself and henchlings. You get used to it when it's stable but when it jumps a bit above that for an afternoon it feels like playing by semaphore.


This is the most important point. Someone who plays at a ping that stays consistently at 200 will play much better (in a general sense) than someone who plays at a ping that fluctuates between 15 and 60
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 14 2014 19:35 GMT
#4446
On January 15 2014 03:17 cLutZ wrote:
Check out ELO Distribution by ping (charts are out there) if you dont think it matters.

Correlation =! Causation.
Could just be hardcore gamers pay for better Internet as opposed to better internet getting you higher ELO.
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hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
January 14 2014 19:46 GMT
#4447
On January 15 2014 04:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 03:17 cLutZ wrote:
Check out ELO Distribution by ping (charts are out there) if you dont think it matters.

Correlation =! Causation.
Could just be hardcore gamers pay for better Internet as opposed to better internet getting you higher ELO.


You do know that after a certain point, better internet won't improve your ping? It's not like better internet will improve the speed of light or lower your distance to the servers.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
January 14 2014 19:48 GMT
#4448
On January 15 2014 01:56 JonGalt wrote:
question for you east coasters (and anyone from upstate new York even better), what's your ping on NA vs EUW?

From Philadelphia:
NA: 90-120 depending on traffic.
EUW: I only checked it once for shits and gigs, but 110.
The real shitter?
LA-N: 30

Time to learn spanish!

On January 15 2014 02:39 Ketara wrote:
Is NA really that unforgiving ping wise to east coast people?

I'm in San Diego and regularly get ping of like, 10.

I still miss skillshots tho.

Yup. The routing catches dysentery on the old trail west and shits itself.

The biggest ping issue League has had? No.
The most disappointing one for people that are on their region's server? Probably.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 19:52:15
January 14 2014 19:50 GMT
#4449
On January 15 2014 04:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 03:17 cLutZ wrote:
Check out ELO Distribution by ping (charts are out there) if you dont think it matters.

Correlation =! Causation.
Could just be hardcore gamers pay for better Internet as opposed to better internet getting you higher ELO.


Unless you think hardcore gamers decide to move to the West Coast to get better LoL ping, this is a bogus alternative. There is no "better internet". If you're on the Eastern side of North America you aren't going to get any better than 80ms, even if you pay $500 a month.

For the record, I've lived at both ends of Ontario now and through various ISPs had pings mostly between 86 and 130.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 14 2014 19:55 GMT
#4450
On January 15 2014 04:46 hasuprotoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 04:35 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 15 2014 03:17 cLutZ wrote:
Check out ELO Distribution by ping (charts are out there) if you dont think it matters.

Correlation =! Causation.
Could just be hardcore gamers pay for better Internet as opposed to better internet getting you higher ELO.


You do know that after a certain point, better internet won't improve your ping? It's not like better internet will improve the speed of light or lower your distance to the servers.

I've had different levels of isp coverage in the same area. Lowest ping I had was 8. Highest was 40ish. Different isp and plan levels affected my ping.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
January 14 2014 19:57 GMT
#4451
I'm just going to leave this here. Poor Rufus. T.T
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 14 2014 20:31 GMT
#4452
On January 15 2014 03:46 Haiq343 wrote:
Of course it matters. But there are a great many players like me who would suck regardless of the instantaneousness of our internet. Urban East Coast seems to run between ~90 and ~115 as anecdotal ranges for myself and henchlings. You get used to it when it's stable but when it jumps a bit above that for an afternoon it feels like playing by semaphore.


Yea, well, I suspect that there is a greater chance for those traffic variances when your signal is coming from NY/Chicago vs. San Diego/Francisco.

Skarner isn't popular anymore, but the "fix" to his ult was essentially a ping compensation issue.
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Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
January 14 2014 20:44 GMT
#4453
i get 40-60 ping from berkeley, i'm pretty sure there's one riot server that just has 20 higher ping than the other.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
January 14 2014 21:10 GMT
#4454
On January 15 2014 05:44 Shiznick wrote:
i get 40-60 ping from berkeley, i'm pretty sure there's one riot server that just has 20 higher ping than the other.


Probably depends on which switch you're on. For instance from Seattle, if the downtown switch is up, i get 12 ping. If its not, i get 30-40
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 14 2014 21:26 GMT
#4455
I'm on East Coast and I play with around 150 ping, university internet stinks.

There's a reason Georgia Tech's LoL team is better than ours.
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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 21:28:02
January 14 2014 21:26 GMT
#4456
The ping relating to leagues was skewed by LCS players being in La also. The largest variance iirc was in challenger and d1 where a high percentage of players had low ping.

There's 40+ players who are very high on ladder with low ping from LCS alone.

*edit - i have 80-100 ping in middle of our fine country.

trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
January 14 2014 21:32 GMT
#4457
diamond 1 player on NA server from france with + 180 ping here
In EU west it is 40
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 14 2014 22:04 GMT
#4458
Pretty sure they just buffed Annie

Scaling stun length with levels, meh

But having her ult on 80 sec CD at lvl 16 (or an effective 48 sec with CDR) is pretty OP considering Tibbers is alive for 45 seconds. Yay for having an extra champ with Sunfire, nuke and a ton of magic damage.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 14 2014 22:06 GMT
#4459
http://oce.leagueoflegends.com/node/10519
New patch notes
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 14 2014 22:10 GMT
#4460
Also, they added the Spectral Wraith sustain to all the jungle items, OP~
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