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InfSunday
Profile Joined March 2013
United States735 Posts
January 14 2014 04:13 GMT
#4361
AP/tank Sej makes more sense to me than the soloQ heroes who go full AP Elise. People, just build mpen with full tank and you're fine as far as damage does, you don't need a deathcap wtf.

/qq
Call me Sunday
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
January 14 2014 04:23 GMT
#4362
The thing is Sej's Q scales with enemy HP and her W scales with her own HP, so AP items aren't too synergistic. That said, I do like Liandry on her for a one damage item late game. Just with Liandry and Sunfire she does a lot of damage late game.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
January 14 2014 04:49 GMT
#4363
Hey guys do you know what the full build is for tank Rengar? I'm having difficulties finding it.

Thanks!
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 14 2014 04:51 GMT
#4364
On January 14 2014 13:23 Ketara wrote:
The thing is Sej's Q scales with enemy HP and her W scales with her own HP, so AP items aren't too synergistic. That said, I do like Liandry on her for a one damage item late game. Just with Liandry and Sunfire she does a lot of damage late game.

You could do the same thing with amumu, except more dmgs.
liftlift > tsm
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
January 14 2014 05:02 GMT
#4365
On January 14 2014 13:49 Frudgey wrote:
Hey guys do you know what the full build is for tank Rengar? I'm having difficulties finding it.

Thanks!


funfire, randuins, SV boots core, and then 2 items as needed depending on incoming damage.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 14 2014 05:05 GMT
#4366
On January 14 2014 14:02 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 13:49 Frudgey wrote:
Hey guys do you know what the full build is for tank Rengar? I'm having difficulties finding it.

Thanks!


funfire, randuins, SV boots core, and then 2 items as needed depending on incoming damage.

First big item should either be SV, or Funfire, depending on lane matchup or what's needed.
Follow up with the other item, as this is when grouping up happens so more damage variety is happening.
Then Randuins.
If they have insane magic output, get BVeil. If not, get Thornmail.
6th item is whatever you want.
liftlift > tsm
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
January 14 2014 05:09 GMT
#4367
Aside from watching LCS/D1 streams/playing games is there anything I can do to improve map awareness/positioning in teamfights? I generally am fine with my positioning in my ELO (Silver) but I'm tired of losing promo series games because of a fed tank/assassin as an ADC.

Wards are probably the biggest issue, I'm only know getting to the point where people will actually ward, and that might have just been because of an Evelynn on the other team >.>...
Steam: rook492
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 14 2014 05:12 GMT
#4368
On January 14 2014 14:09 Crusnik wrote:
Aside from watching LCS/D1 streams/playing games is there anything I can do to improve map awareness/positioning in teamfights? I generally am fine with my positioning in my ELO (Silver) but I'm tired of losing promo series games because of a fed tank/assassin as an ADC.

Wards are probably the biggest issue, I'm only know getting to the point where people will actually ward, and that might have just been because of an Evelynn on the other team >.>...

Play adc's with easy positioning skills, and learn to use their positioning skills in directions other than just back. Seriously, so many times I see Ez's and Cait's just E backwards away from their entire team, just to get rid of someone in their face, when the better option was to E to the side, where their teammates can still follow up and get rid of whoever's raping their face in, and still create same amount of space away.
liftlift > tsm
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
January 14 2014 05:17 GMT
#4369
But Ezreal is so bad right now D: Lucian/Jinx/Tristana/Varus are the main ones I play, with some Cait thrown in. I'll keep working on stutterstepping/orbwalking/whatever you want to call it.

I guess my other option would be to just abuse the fuck out of Rengo and carry games purely based off of how stupid the champion is....
Steam: rook492
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
January 14 2014 05:17 GMT
#4370
On January 14 2014 14:09 Crusnik wrote:
Aside from watching LCS/D1 streams/playing games is there anything I can do to improve map awareness/positioning in teamfights? I generally am fine with my positioning in my ELO (Silver) but I'm tired of losing promo series games because of a fed tank/assassin as an ADC.

Wards are probably the biggest issue, I'm only know getting to the point where people will actually ward, and that might have just been because of an Evelynn on the other team >.>...


good question. map awareness goes well beyound escaping ganks. especially as a marksman (MM) you should be able to see some kind of rythm in how the map moves. for example in which direction the lanes are pushing, so you can clear waves in time, or if your team can soon gather around an objective. good map awareness also means that you can read how the map tells you that you should not do golems and go shopping but start to position with your team. as an MM your main goal should be participating in turret sieges/defenses because that is why there is an MM in your team in the first place.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 05:20:40
January 14 2014 05:18 GMT
#4371
On January 14 2014 14:09 Crusnik wrote:
Aside from watching LCS/D1 streams/playing games is there anything I can do to improve map awareness/positioning in teamfights? I generally am fine with my positioning in my ELO (Silver) but I'm tired of losing promo series games because of a fed tank/assassin as an ADC.

Wards are probably the biggest issue, I'm only know getting to the point where people will actually ward, and that might have just been because of an Evelynn on the other team >.>...

If you'd like, you can forward me some replays LoLreplays) and I'll look them over, or else I can try and spectate for you later this week.

Here's hoping we get replays Season 4! <_<

To me it sounds like you're positioning too far forward when enemies are MIA, or your teams are not peeling properly. That or you're comparatively behind compared to the tank/assashun and can't deal damage to them, or else are playing static ADCs.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 14 2014 05:37 GMT
#4372
On January 14 2014 13:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 13:23 Ketara wrote:
The thing is Sej's Q scales with enemy HP and her W scales with her own HP, so AP items aren't too synergistic. That said, I do like Liandry on her for a one damage item late game. Just with Liandry and Sunfire she does a lot of damage late game.

You could do the same thing with amumu, except more dmgs.


Yes but Amumu does not provide consistent slows. At least it's not as easy as max CDR Sejuani. Amumu simply does not work well with Liandry's.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
January 14 2014 05:39 GMT
#4373
On January 14 2014 14:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 14:09 Crusnik wrote:
Aside from watching LCS/D1 streams/playing games is there anything I can do to improve map awareness/positioning in teamfights? I generally am fine with my positioning in my ELO (Silver) but I'm tired of losing promo series games because of a fed tank/assassin as an ADC.

Wards are probably the biggest issue, I'm only know getting to the point where people will actually ward, and that might have just been because of an Evelynn on the other team >.>...

If you'd like, you can forward me some replays LoLreplays) and I'll look them over, or else I can try and spectate for you later this week.

Here's hoping we get replays Season 4! <_<

To me it sounds like you're positioning too far forward when enemies are MIA, or your teams are not peeling properly. That or you're comparatively behind compared to the tank/assashun and can't deal damage to them, or else are playing static ADCs.


I'll add you and you can do whatever, I'll probably end up playing a few games with my friends shortly, so I have no idea what they'll have me do lol. My league name is Crusnik77 so that's it, I'll also try and get a few replays since I just downloaded lolreplay on my desktop >.>
Steam: rook492
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 14 2014 06:10 GMT
#4374
On January 14 2014 13:49 Frudgey wrote:
Hey guys do you know what the full build is for tank Rengar? I'm having difficulties finding it.

Thanks!

Boots Sunfire/SV Sunfire/SV Hydra Randuins GA
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
January 14 2014 06:18 GMT
#4375
tfw oddone mutes you twice in a game for being a positive and friendly player
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
January 14 2014 06:46 GMT
#4376
On January 14 2014 13:04 YouGotNothin wrote:
Maybe I should be posting in T.R.O.L.L.S., but all this Sejuani and Amumu talk makes me want to play an AP Sejunai built like an AP Amumu. You could go like Spectral Wratih, Sorc Shoes, Abyssal, Frozen Heart/Spirit Visage/Sunfire (depending on situation). Maybe a Liandrys if you get fed. I know her AP ratios aren't great, but Amumu's aren't particularly stellar either and AP Amumu is a thing right?

If you want a traditional tank character to build AP go Nautilus. He has decent ratios. Maokai is another strong candidate. Sej only really wants Liandries for damage. You're better off targeting CDR and HP and permaslowing people.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
January 14 2014 07:30 GMT
#4377
On January 14 2014 13:49 Frudgey wrote:
Hey guys do you know what the full build is for tank Rengar? I'm having difficulties finding it.

Thanks!

Korean build was Sunfire/Spirit Visage->Spirit Visage/Sunfire->Necklace->Randuins/GA->game is over
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 07:38:37
January 14 2014 07:33 GMT
#4378
Is there a reason I'm suddenly getting 3-7pt LP gains/losses? I just got promoted back to Gold1 where I was before. My teams aren't even skewed or anything. I have always gotten at least 18-22pt gains and 12-16pt losses. All of a sudden I'm getting nothing for a win and losing even less when I lose. I should be at like 40pts into Gold1 but I'm sitting at 10pts...

Over 800 games played so it's definitely not trying to magically find my MMR or something.

If it think's my placement is too high compared to my MMR that would explain the little amount I get for a win but then I should be getting massive point losses when I lose. Or vice versa if it thinks my MMR is too low, massive gains and minimal losses. But I have no clue why it both thinks I'm too good and too bad both at the same time, I'm not even near the top of the division so it's not like it's clamping down on me all of a sudden.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
January 14 2014 07:35 GMT
#4379
Ladder reset is inc.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 07:44:09
January 14 2014 07:40 GMT
#4380
On January 14 2014 16:35 aurawashere wrote:
Ladder reset is inc.

I can start playing ranked again!

Maybe. I'm feeling an ARAM binge inc. <_<

Additionally, it might not hurt to have a replay swap thread on these forums, actually. It means downloading Lolrecorder, but it can be a place for people to ask for critiques of gameplay.

Also just realized,
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/showdown-magma-chamber-info

Magma Chamber cancelled again. AGAIN. RIOT WHY. Don't let it become starcraft ghost.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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