On January 14 2014 07:56 nosliw wrote:
ppl don't get golem on amumu? Wraith makes him too squishy no?
ppl don't get golem on amumu? Wraith makes him too squishy no?
Golem offers no mana sustain. Wraith does.
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 14 2014 07:56 nosliw wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2014 06:59 Sufficiency wrote: You do max E first on Sejuani, at a cost of slower clear than Amumu. I think in S3 I would have preferred Sejuani (both pre and post rrework. But with the new ancient wraith mana is no longer an issue and Amumu clears like a boss. ppl don't get golem on amumu? Wraith makes him too squishy no? Golem offers no mana sustain. Wraith does. | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
And then there's nothing quite like seeing the Mega Death Rocket come out of nowhere for the triple kill. | ||
Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On January 14 2014 08:06 ticklishmusic wrote: The W on Jinx is insane poke. It's similar to Ez's Q IMO-- you trade a cheap, medium damage poke for one that costs a good bit, but does enough damage that two of them will force your opponent out of lane. And then there's nothing quite like seeing the Mega Death Rocket come out of nowhere for the triple kill. Poke aside, Zap is insane because it's practically as good as Enchanted Crystal Arrow at starting fights. Realistically you don't use ECA from much more than 1500 range all that often, and a 70% slow for 2 seconds is going to start a fight or burn a flash. But Zap has a 6 second cooldown... | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35146 Posts
On January 14 2014 06:45 Sufficiency wrote: I actually think Amumu is better. His W does more damage to tanks and his R has longer duration. At max rank on both, Sejuani W with Golem Spirit and Omen does 1 more damage to a tank with 5k health than Amumu W over it's duration. The lower(and in this case, more reasonable) the tank's health, the worse Amumu's damage is going to fall behind. On January 14 2014 06:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2014 06:47 AsmodeusXI wrote: On January 14 2014 06:45 Sufficiency wrote: I actually think Amumu is better. His W does more damage to tanks and his R has longer duration. BUT BEARS. it's a boar For on moderately high payment of 1350RP... On January 14 2014 06:49 Alzadar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2014 06:33 Fildun wrote: Guys please. Why does nobody ever pick Sejuani. I mean, why the fuck would you pick Amumu when Sej is open. I just don't see it. Help. Amumu does noticeably more damage. Sejuani has her slow and somewhat better mobility to make up for it but her slow is kind of weak until maxed and you can't afford to max it*. Plus Sejuani ult starts out at a garbage 1.25s scaling up to 1.75s while Amumu gets 2 seconds right off the bat. *edit: actually, do some people max it? I can see some appeal to that Incomparable ccs. Amumu's is a snare that disable autos. Sejuani's is a stun. On January 14 2014 07:53 Scip wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2014 06:49 Fildun wrote: On January 14 2014 06:45 Sufficiency wrote: I actually think Amumu is better. His W does more damage to tanks and his R has longer duration. I actually think Sejuani is better. Her Q does more damage to tanks, her E has significant base damage burst and her R is ranged. Also none of her spells can miss and you have additional cc. Plus more earlygame presence. They are pretty different since you'd probably build loads more dmg on Amumu while I don't think Sejuani can really afford that She doesn't need to. She gets damage from building tanky. | ||
Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Amumu's winrate in diamond is around 54.5-55% while Sejuani's is around 50-51%. Seems clear enough to me. On January 14 2014 08:58 Alaric wrote: Well people still call Twisted Advance and Nevermove stuns, so... Never heard either called a stun. | ||
Alaric
France45622 Posts
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
Her lategame is beastly and her hanks can be brutal, especially post 6. Getting a double stun on bot lane is good stuff. I'd say she is bottom of the A tier junglers, which is unfortunately quite far off the S tiers. | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On January 14 2014 09:01 Shikyo wrote: We could just stick to facts. Amumu's winrate in diamond is around 54.5-55% while Sejuani's is around 50-51%. Seems clear enough to me. Show nested quote + On January 14 2014 08:58 Alaric wrote: Well people still call Twisted Advance and Nevermove stuns, so... Never heard either called a stun. Yes, and more interestingly, IIRC, the win % was reversed in mid-S3. S4 changes helped Amumu a lot and not so much for Sejuani. I still think Sejuani is pretty good, but not as good as Amumu right now. | ||
Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Am I doing it wrong? | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On January 14 2014 09:33 Ketara wrote: I have been trying to Sejuani jungle recently, and I feel like I'm always out of mana. I've considered buying a flask even. Am I doing it wrong? She does have a lot of mana problems. If you farm too much you can't gank... Getting Wraith helps. | ||
Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On January 14 2014 09:33 Sufficiency wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2014 09:33 Ketara wrote: I have been trying to Sejuani jungle recently, and I feel like I'm always out of mana. I've considered buying a flask even. Am I doing it wrong? She does have a lot of mana problems. If you farm too much you can't gank... Getting Wraith helps. It helps her sustain in the jungle, but kills her teamfight presence because lolsquish. You can try grabbing mana pots. | ||
Gahlo
United States35146 Posts
On January 14 2014 09:33 Ketara wrote: I have been trying to Sejuani jungle recently, and I feel like I'm always out of mana. I've considered buying a flask even. Am I doing it wrong? Don't use Q in the jungle unless you're wearing blue. | ||
ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On January 14 2014 06:51 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: amumu has mr reduction which is useful how often are you autoattacking with amumu? | ||
Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On January 14 2014 10:49 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2014 06:51 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: amumu has mr reduction which is useful how often are you autoattacking with amumu? Why wouldn't you auto attack? | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 14 2014 10:49 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2014 06:51 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: amumu has mr reduction which is useful how often are you autoattacking with amumu? You only need to attack once, and it's pretty automatic after landing q. Lichbane mumu in pre season 2 was one of the funniest things ever. | ||
YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
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