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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 26 2013 23:03 GMT
#2101
On December 27 2013 07:57 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 07:52 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On December 27 2013 07:52 Parnage wrote:
On December 27 2013 07:46 Gahlo wrote:
On December 27 2013 06:46 wei2coolman wrote:
Watching scarra stream solo queue hurts my soul, he's gotten so bad qq. I remember when this guy used to be considered the best mid in NA.

When was this?

s2/early s3? I recall a number of folks praising Scarra's mid play.

Scarra used to be NA Froggen because he was great at farming.

I remember when dig went to korea and scarra picked kat in kr solo queue. Minds were blown. (Pre rework kat)

I remember toyz at worlds saying something like "picking katarina was a stupid moment of arrogance" when scarra picked kat. He was a serious oddball for a while playing kat even post-rework.
Glorious SEA doto
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
December 26 2013 23:06 GMT
#2102
Well, that's because the Kat pick was terrible.
Stay positive!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 26 2013 23:14 GMT
#2103
On December 27 2013 08:06 remedium wrote:
Well, that's because the Kat pick was terrible.

Lol post rework kat was so broken when you built pure tank with haunting guise. I don't remember if that was the same era when scarra picked it S2 worlds though.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-26 23:16:09
December 26 2013 23:15 GMT
#2104
On December 27 2013 08:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 08:06 remedium wrote:
Well, that's because the Kat pick was terrible.

Lol post rework kat was so broken when you built pure tank with haunting guise. I don't remember if that was the same era when scarra picked it S2 worlds though.

It was post rework but scarra did normal APC, he didn't do the vooby/zionspartan AP tank kat. Well zion was AP tank, vooby just went full tank rofl.
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 26 2013 23:24 GMT
#2105
On December 27 2013 08:15 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 08:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 27 2013 08:06 remedium wrote:
Well, that's because the Kat pick was terrible.

Lol post rework kat was so broken when you built pure tank with haunting guise. I don't remember if that was the same era when scarra picked it S2 worlds though.

It was post rework but scarra did normal APC, he didn't do the vooby/zionspartan AP tank kat. Well zion was AP tank, vooby just went full tank rofl.

I remember how stupid that build was. Sunfire/haunting guise/sorcboots/abyssal/more defense. Mpen with easy resets was so silly good.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 26 2013 23:33 GMT
#2106
Watching the LMQ stream, seems that evaniskus and nk inc are playing in a team together with goldenglue/jezie/impactful (Idk I'm kinda blank on those names). They don't seem to be doing well though their mid is 1/4 with half of xiaowexaio's cs on syndra.
Glorious SEA doto
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-26 23:53:23
December 26 2013 23:52 GMT
#2107
i think im falling in love with playing nami this free week. her kit seems pretty insane and her utility AP scaling is actually relevent unlike some of the post patch supports who like ap.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 27 2013 00:00 GMT
#2108
On December 27 2013 08:52 turdburgler wrote:
i think im falling in love with playing nami this free week. her kit seems pretty insane and her utility AP scaling is actually relevent unlike some of the post patch supports who like ap.

Her ap ratios still crappy, not like that really matters since supports on average still just as poor as s3. No real room to itemize ap, just cdr and some active items.
liftlift > tsm
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
December 27 2013 00:08 GMT
#2109
What did people expect with the GP5 rework? It will rarely go beyond haunting guise as support items are very good right now.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 27 2013 00:09 GMT
#2110
On December 27 2013 09:00 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 08:52 turdburgler wrote:
i think im falling in love with playing nami this free week. her kit seems pretty insane and her utility AP scaling is actually relevent unlike some of the post patch supports who like ap.

Her ap ratios still crappy, not like that really matters since supports on average still just as poor as s3. No real room to itemize ap, just cdr and some active items.


you can easily be giving people +100 move speed with your passive, how is that crpapy : l
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 27 2013 00:10 GMT
#2111
Wouldnt really call getting 600 ap easy lol
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 27 2013 00:11 GMT
#2112
On December 27 2013 09:08 Eppa! wrote:
What did people expect with the GP5 rework? It will rarely go beyond haunting guise as support items are very good right now.

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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 00:21:11
December 27 2013 00:19 GMT
#2113
On December 27 2013 09:08 Eppa! wrote:
What did people expect with the GP5 rework? It will rarely go beyond haunting guise as support items are very good right now.

Support items arent good in pre S4. They're just a better choice over AP. People aren't getting items on support in preS4 because items are better. They're getting it because of ward limits and no oracles, so they might as well dump gold in items.
On December 27 2013 09:09 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 09:00 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 27 2013 08:52 turdburgler wrote:
i think im falling in love with playing nami this free week. her kit seems pretty insane and her utility AP scaling is actually relevent unlike some of the post patch supports who like ap.

Her ap ratios still crappy, not like that really matters since supports on average still just as poor as s3. No real room to itemize ap, just cdr and some active items.


you can easily be giving people +100 move speed with your passive, how is that crpapy : l

Yes. And janna can give like 200 bonus ad, but seriously. How much AP are you realisitically itemizing for in a game?
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 27 2013 00:34 GMT
#2114
problem is gp item, boots, sightstone =3 slots, possibly need a slot for a pink, thats 2 slots hooray, and if you are playing in a pro game, add mikails and upgrade pink slot to mandatory now you get 1 slot OH MY GOD.
Carrilord has arrived.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 27 2013 00:34 GMT
#2115
jannas problem isnt that her shield doesnt give enough AD so its not really a relevant comparison. janna feels like a waste of space in lane, i dont get that feeling on nami at all.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 00:38:31
December 27 2013 00:36 GMT
#2116
More things change. The more they stay the same.

Scaling issues or not, nami definitely more useful than janna in lane now, but saying that her ap scaling is decent is wrong, and moot. Imo at this point she's just outclassed by leona, thresh, karma, and annie.
liftlift > tsm
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
December 27 2013 00:39 GMT
#2117
yo storrzerg i just owned you in Hearthstone Arena QQ sorry

<3
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 27 2013 00:47 GMT
#2118
so because she isnt considered top 2 supports out of 117 champs to choose from theres no room to explore playing her and see what she brings to do the table, way to shut down the discussion. and i dont even agree that she is outclassed.

because of the way her w and e work allow you to play from an extremely safe position meaning you can rune and mastery differently and build differently. if you play her along side any of the core set of ADs she makes them win every trade with no risk to herself. so while on most supports im looking to finish my ruby sightstone then head to either aegis or possibly a glacial shroud or wardens mail on nami i think its completely legit to just build the first part of a sightstone and then pick up a chalice.

thresh and leona and even annie need to be played in a way where building a lot of health very quickly is basically required where as nami can go almost straight to other items.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 00:57:08
December 27 2013 00:54 GMT
#2119
I didn't mean to say I didn't like Nami, I actually like her a lot vs most of the played supports except for Annie, I was just commenting on "supports get to build all these fancy new items" isn't all it's cracked up to be.

besides Nami's base damage has always been really good, so throwing in an abyssal can be nice, you get some D, and casting Tidecaller's blessing on the AD doesn't evicirate it's damage.
Carrilord has arrived.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 27 2013 00:56 GMT
#2120
ye but dat solo q doe, support items are pointless if you dont know if your team will even make use of them : /
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