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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
December 27 2013 07:44 GMT
#2141
a question about yasuo

when does the dmg from the ult start kicking in? during the animation or after they land? I keep dying mid air when i thought i had the kill and my opp doesnt die wtf
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
December 27 2013 07:56 GMT
#2142
Yasuo very fun, very well designed champion.

Da skill ceiling!!! So high.
Retvrn to Forvms
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
December 27 2013 08:02 GMT
#2143
On December 27 2013 16:44 justiceknight wrote:
a question about yasuo

when does the dmg from the ult start kicking in? during the animation or after they land? I keep dying mid air when i thought i had the kill and my opp doesnt die wtf


So long as you begin casting it, you should get the damage off even if you die mid-attack animation.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 09:21:03
December 27 2013 09:20 GMT
#2144
So I usually just spam vi for jungle but I'm getting bored of her. What are other junglers that have good ganks while still having nice clear speed? I am thinking Elise. Any other options?
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
December 27 2013 09:28 GMT
#2145
Well top tiers right now are pretty much vi elise leesin shyvana mundo .... I think kha'zix is insanely good too atm, fiddle still strong despite the fear nerf. They all clear well/gank well. Elise is a good choice if you want to learn a semi-hard to play jungler that has very rewarding early/mid when played right. There's a reason she's still firstpick material after 10 batches of nerfs.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 27 2013 09:30 GMT
#2146
On December 27 2013 18:20 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
So I usually just spam vi for jungle but I'm getting bored of her. What are other junglers that have good ganks while still having nice clear speed? I am thinking Elise. Any other options?

Elise best option. Solid ganks, epic clear speed, annoyingly slippery, strong gap closer, fast movespeed, etc etc.
liftlift > tsm
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
December 27 2013 09:43 GMT
#2147
Did Jarvan and Zac drop out from the league of top tier junglers?

I mean, I know they're good, but are they still god material? Or did something happen?
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
December 27 2013 09:52 GMT
#2148
On December 27 2013 06:58 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 06:49 pokerface wrote:
The way u guys speak about gold makes me feel like its the new bronze Things changed in half a year


¨
Bronze/silver/gold is roughly the same and that will probably never change. I say this having played at least 100 games in all 3 tiers on various smurfs. I gotta admit that people are usually more toxic in gold than silver and bronze, because people think they're god for being gold, but other than that it's the same.


Well it's hard for you that you get stomped so hard by bronzes in Inhouses half the time then

I also love how Diamond 1 people are exactly the same as very high masters / low GM used to be in SC2 : think everyone else is trash and they're high above, when they're still absolute donkey dung compared to real pros. Hey that's esports for you motherfuckers
I got five reasons for you to shut up
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
December 27 2013 09:53 GMT
#2149
They are still good but clearly not the best. J4 knockup hitbox was nerfed, Zac ate several nerfs making him disappear even from toplane which is weird in a tanky manaless top lane meta.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 27 2013 10:06 GMT
#2150
On December 27 2013 18:52 The_Unseen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 06:58 Sponkz wrote:
On December 27 2013 06:49 pokerface wrote:
The way u guys speak about gold makes me feel like its the new bronze Things changed in half a year


¨
Bronze/silver/gold is roughly the same and that will probably never change. I say this having played at least 100 games in all 3 tiers on various smurfs. I gotta admit that people are usually more toxic in gold than silver and bronze, because people think they're god for being gold, but other than that it's the same.


Well it's hard for you that you get stomped so hard by bronzes in Inhouses half the time then

I also love how Diamond 1 people are exactly the same as very high masters / low GM used to be in SC2 : think everyone else is trash and they're high above, when they're still absolute donkey dung compared to real pros. Hey that's esports for you motherfuckers

If you're in diamond 1/challenger everyone else IS trash.

You've clearly never been in a game at that level, it's hard to look like you're even competent against players like that.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 27 2013 10:06 GMT
#2151
On December 27 2013 16:56 Chrispy wrote:
Yasuo very fun, very well designed champion.

Da skill ceiling!!! So high.

Ya tru tho huh I'm gonna be sad when all of his numbers get a nerf =/
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
December 27 2013 10:27 GMT
#2152
On December 27 2013 19:06 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 18:52 The_Unseen wrote:
On December 27 2013 06:58 Sponkz wrote:
On December 27 2013 06:49 pokerface wrote:
The way u guys speak about gold makes me feel like its the new bronze Things changed in half a year


¨
Bronze/silver/gold is roughly the same and that will probably never change. I say this having played at least 100 games in all 3 tiers on various smurfs. I gotta admit that people are usually more toxic in gold than silver and bronze, because people think they're god for being gold, but other than that it's the same.


Well it's hard for you that you get stomped so hard by bronzes in Inhouses half the time then

I also love how Diamond 1 people are exactly the same as very high masters / low GM used to be in SC2 : think everyone else is trash and they're high above, when they're still absolute donkey dung compared to real pros. Hey that's esports for you motherfuckers

If you're in diamond 1/challenger everyone else IS trash.

You've clearly never been in a game at that level, it's hard to look like you're even competent against players like that.


You should not take it this way mate, I was just teasing Sponkzey AKA I'm-High-All-The-Time-In-Inhouses. Sorry if I offended anyone.

However, you should probably not take wild guesses about people you don't know like that, I was pretty decently ranked in SC2, but real life came in, and I'd rather work towards an actual career :D
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
December 27 2013 10:30 GMT
#2153
On December 27 2013 19:27 The_Unseen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 19:06 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On December 27 2013 18:52 The_Unseen wrote:
On December 27 2013 06:58 Sponkz wrote:
On December 27 2013 06:49 pokerface wrote:
The way u guys speak about gold makes me feel like its the new bronze Things changed in half a year


¨
Bronze/silver/gold is roughly the same and that will probably never change. I say this having played at least 100 games in all 3 tiers on various smurfs. I gotta admit that people are usually more toxic in gold than silver and bronze, because people think they're god for being gold, but other than that it's the same.


Well it's hard for you that you get stomped so hard by bronzes in Inhouses half the time then

I also love how Diamond 1 people are exactly the same as very high masters / low GM used to be in SC2 : think everyone else is trash and they're high above, when they're still absolute donkey dung compared to real pros. Hey that's esports for you motherfuckers

If you're in diamond 1/challenger everyone else IS trash.

You've clearly never been in a game at that level, it's hard to look like you're even competent against players like that.


You should not take it this way mate, I was just teasing Sponkzey AKA I'm-High-All-The-Time-In-Inhouses. Sorry if I offended anyone.

However, you should probably not take wild guesses about people you don't know like that, I was pretty decently ranked in SC2, but real life came in, and I'd rather work towards an actual career :D


Bro you gotta get your masters in SC2 else no one will hire you.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
December 27 2013 10:32 GMT
#2154
Don't laugh I know some who thought they could put on their CV that they won like 500€ in various shitty LANS and expected actual results out of that. Oh sad reality
I got five reasons for you to shut up
OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
December 27 2013 11:20 GMT
#2155
For all of you who are bored of the resourceless super tank top meta, you should try trundle.

He is extremely underplayed and absolutely shits on these resist stacking opponents. I've smashed a good amount of mundos in lane (mundo constantly at sub half HP vs me topped of the entire lane). Not only do you outsustain all of them with just a vamp scepter and lifesteal runes. You also make them useless in team fights.

Also trundles mana costs are really low, so you can spam just as much as the popular picks.

just get 3 points in mana regen in the utility tree and the rest 6/21. Trundle is strong vs resist stacking, HP stacking and even vs sustained duelists like jax. The only thing that could trouble you is riven and nasus, but they are perma banned anyways.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
December 27 2013 11:59 GMT
#2156
On December 27 2013 18:53 RouaF wrote:
They are still good but clearly not the best. J4 knockup hitbox was nerfed, Zac ate several nerfs making him disappear even from toplane which is weird in a tanky manaless top lane meta.


Real talk right here:

you wanna know why Zac is the worst manaless tank in the game by far? He can't lane for shit because if he uses a spell in lane, his passive blobs fly ON TOP OF his lane opponent. #ritobalance
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 12:28:59
December 27 2013 12:25 GMT
#2157
On December 27 2013 18:52 The_Unseen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 06:58 Sponkz wrote:
On December 27 2013 06:49 pokerface wrote:
The way u guys speak about gold makes me feel like its the new bronze Things changed in half a year


¨
Bronze/silver/gold is roughly the same and that will probably never change. I say this having played at least 100 games in all 3 tiers on various smurfs. I gotta admit that people are usually more toxic in gold than silver and bronze, because people think they're god for being gold, but other than that it's the same.


Well it's hard for you that you get stomped so hard by bronzes in Inhouses half the time then

I also love how Diamond 1 people are exactly the same as very high masters / low GM used to be in SC2 : think everyone else is trash and they're high above, when they're still absolute donkey dung compared to real pros. Hey that's esports for you motherfuckers



I suck at the game, i never stated anywhere that i was good :<

You misinterpret the whole diamond 1 part though. Bronze/Silver/Gold IS the low end of solo queue skill cap, there's nothing in what i wrote, and while i indeed do suck major fucking ass compared to pros, I'm still in my right to talk about the skill level, because i have the capability and knowledge to actually understand why the fuck players in lower tiers play like they do.


On December 27 2013 19:06 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 18:52 The_Unseen wrote:
On December 27 2013 06:58 Sponkz wrote:
On December 27 2013 06:49 pokerface wrote:
The way u guys speak about gold makes me feel like its the new bronze Things changed in half a year


¨
Bronze/silver/gold is roughly the same and that will probably never change. I say this having played at least 100 games in all 3 tiers on various smurfs. I gotta admit that people are usually more toxic in gold than silver and bronze, because people think they're god for being gold, but other than that it's the same.


Well it's hard for you that you get stomped so hard by bronzes in Inhouses half the time then

I also love how Diamond 1 people are exactly the same as very high masters / low GM used to be in SC2 : think everyone else is trash and they're high above, when they're still absolute donkey dung compared to real pros. Hey that's esports for you motherfuckers

If you're in diamond 1/challenger everyone else IS trash.

You've clearly never been in a game at that level, it's hard to look like you're even competent against players like that.



He's just saying that shit, because I sometimes suck major donkey dick in inhouses.
hi
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
December 27 2013 12:28 GMT
#2158
On December 27 2013 19:32 The_Unseen wrote:
Don't laugh I know some who thought they could put on their CV that they won like 500€ in various shitty LANS and expected actual results out of that. Oh sad reality

You're treading on my dreams
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
December 27 2013 12:46 GMT
#2159
On December 27 2013 21:28 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 19:32 The_Unseen wrote:
Don't laugh I know some who thought they could put on their CV that they won like 500€ in various shitty LANS and expected actual results out of that. Oh sad reality

You're treading on my dreams


You know this one time I won 500 dollars after having spent 1000 hours playing, so as you can see I don't really need this job. I'm just giving you an opportunity to hire me.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 12:51:54
December 27 2013 12:51 GMT
#2160
League has an incredible amount of depth of skill. The fact that with millions of players, you can say that Faker is the best midlaner in the world for example is a testament to this fact.

I played SC2 at a fairly high level a long time ago. A high masters player would lose maybe a couple games out of 50 against a high diamond player(almost always with cheese), unless they were fucking around. Any lower than high diamond and you could pretty much write off the game as unwinnable, the odds were so incredibly low. League has much the same stark difference. Junglers can make a difference, and because it's a team game occasionally a game will be unwinnable even if you're fed to high heaven.

Bronze, silver gold and plats make a ton of mistakes of varying magnitudes. Most diamond players make less apparent mistakes, but they are still there, and that's how higher level players win lane/games.
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