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The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
December 27 2013 13:08 GMT
#2161
On that topic, what would you say are like the top 5 mistakes that lower (bronze>plat) players do that are really fucking blatantly obvious to higher level players?
I got five reasons for you to shut up
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
December 27 2013 13:16 GMT
#2162
On December 27 2013 22:08 The_Unseen wrote:
On that topic, what would you say are like the top 5 mistakes that lower (bronze>plat) players do that are really fucking blatantly obvious to higher level players?

1 - Farming poorly
2 - Not farming
3 - Missing many last hits
4 - Having no idea when to farm
5 - Not taking time to farm
The legend of Darien lives on
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
December 27 2013 13:19 GMT
#2163
1) Failing to ward properly - Pretty self explanatory
2) Bad objective forcing - Seen those games where one of the ADC's ends up getting retardedly fed but ain't using that shit to get towers.
3) Committing to stupid fights (your team gets drake cause top is owning, but you end up fighting 4v4 or 4v5 and lose)
4) Huge lackluster when it comes to snowballing - If you're ahead, it hardly matters, because people can't hold their advantage.
5) Bad picks - Both in lane but also for your overall team composition
hi
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 27 2013 13:59 GMT
#2164
id put general objective knowledge as the number 1 thing that separates low level players from reasonable players. last hits and whatever are just mechanical practice, if you are willing to dedicate yourself to trying to improve, your mechanics will get better.

but knowing how and when to take towers or dragons or barons is something that peopl in lower leagues just cant grasp. they dont value it enough or they are indecisive and so the moment is gone, forcing the other ADC back in bot lane is great, but doing that then looking to take dragon if appropriate can snowball your advantage dramatically.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 14:09:27
December 27 2013 14:04 GMT
#2165
From my experience in high gold/low plat people do value turrets, they just don't know what to do with it. They take a turret go "YAY WE GOT A TURRET" then revert to AFK farming until someone makes a pick or forces a fight.
Dragon and baron less so, the amount of times the team has suddenly all gone to the bottom side and the other team bulldog rushes the baron is depressing. I think 1 and 3 of what sponkz said are the biggest from my experiences, too often I see assassins starting a fight terribly because they think they can make a pick which forces everyone to awkwardly engage and we all just kinda end up dead, or said assassins end up picking the ADC because he's 50 miles away from everyone in the dark.
Glorious SEA doto
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 14:25:08
December 27 2013 14:19 GMT
#2166
Dunno why people talk like in diamond people magically learn what to do.It is not as bad but most games are still pretty retarded.

The biggest mistake people in lower leagues do is be scared.Half my games of smurfing I just play agressive even if I lose trades and people still dont trade back for some reason.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 27 2013 14:29 GMT
#2167
ye but theres whole different levels of retarded to be experienced.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
December 27 2013 14:31 GMT
#2168
Yeah people in diamond can play like retards, but the main difference overall is consistency. Yeah, sometimes people get caught and die, sometimes your team ain't pushing for shit, but generally speaking diamond players tend to have a greater understanding of the purpose of their role, champion, item build and the strategy needed for its team to win.
hi
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 27 2013 14:59 GMT
#2169
Once you get out of gold the differences become less and less obvious. Its more about consistency. People still fuck up, in exactly the same ways bronze does, they just do it less often.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
December 27 2013 15:10 GMT
#2170
On December 27 2013 22:08 The_Unseen wrote:
On that topic, what would you say are like the top 5 mistakes that lower (bronze>plat) players do that are really fucking blatantly obvious to higher level players?

Pretty much everything. But the worst and easiest to fix would IMO be,

1. Bad farm.
2. No objective oriented play.
3. "All mid" syndrome.
4. Inability to end games.
5. No map awareness.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
December 27 2013 15:14 GMT
#2171
Guys... even in diamond 1 people ward like shit, I still see annie supports not buying sightstone and going full dps and thinking their FUCKING TRINKET is enough to give the team vision. Then they report me because I tell them we lost because we have 0 vision.

An other thing I still see is the baron bait magnet even if the enemy jungler is leesin and 2 level ahead, gogo guys, FREE baron.

The massive difference between low elo and diamond is taking objectives, in low elo the average game length is 50 minutes because players just stand there and do nothing, you can have a 1v5 gank top no one will take dragon or a tower, in diamond 1 if there's a 1v3 gank top it's instant drag (well most of the time at least, sometimes you need to ping it).
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35166 Posts
December 27 2013 15:19 GMT
#2172
Shitters exist at all levels, it's just that higher level shitters are more polished.
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
December 27 2013 15:24 GMT
#2173
You can polish a turd but it still smells like...
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 15:59:10
December 27 2013 15:57 GMT
#2174
On December 28 2013 00:14 RouaF wrote:
Guys... even in diamond 1 people ward like shit, I still see annie supports not buying sightstone and going full dps and thinking their FUCKING TRINKET is enough to give the team vision. Then they report me because I tell them we lost because we have 0 vision.

An other thing I still see is the baron bait magnet even if the enemy jungler is leesin and 2 level ahead, gogo guys, FREE baron.

The massive difference between low elo and diamond is taking objectives, in low elo the average game length is 50 minutes because players just stand there and do nothing, you can have a 1v5 gank top no one will take dragon or a tower, in diamond 1 if there's a 1v3 gank top it's instant drag (well most of the time at least, sometimes you need to ping it).


Are you even reading or just mad?

On December 27 2013 23:59 Osmoses wrote:
Once you get out of gold the differences become less and less obvious. Its more about consistency. People still fuck up, in exactly the same ways bronze does, they just do it less often.



On December 27 2013 23:31 Sponkz wrote:
Yeah people in diamond can play like retards, but the main difference overall is consistency. Yeah, sometimes people get caught and die, sometimes your team ain't pushing for shit, but generally speaking diamond players tend to have a greater understanding of the purpose of their role, champion, item build and the strategy needed for its team to win.




hi
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 27 2013 16:01 GMT
#2175
Didn't refresh first.

I totally said it better doe.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
December 27 2013 16:02 GMT
#2176
Everything gets said better when you rage. That's why i know for a fact, that I'm a penis nigger faggot.
hi
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 27 2013 16:03 GMT
#2177
To say bronze/silver/gold are the same is outrageously elitiest.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 27 2013 16:05 GMT
#2178
Not the same, they just have many things in common. Like being nabs OLLOLO reported.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
December 27 2013 16:10 GMT
#2179
On December 28 2013 01:03 Sufficiency wrote:
To say bronze/silver/gold are the same is outrageously elitiest.



You just don't have the sufficiency to handle the truth
hi
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
December 27 2013 16:23 GMT
#2180
I'll be honest. I've seen no difference in peoples skill level all the way from silver up to plat 1.
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